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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bobboau on December 03, 2004, 10:09:28 pm
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so would you rather be the high man in a low place or the low man in a high place?
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Assuming there is an existance of both...
I'd probably go to heaven, where you can be happy doing whatever you want.
But also presuming that such wants and desires would be gone... I'm not sure.
Heaven just for the hell of it I guess. :)
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First, I'll guess an0n's answer: "Already reigning in Hell."
Which would be logically followed by Tiara's "You were until I kicked you out."
Personally, I really have no clue which would be better.
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Honestly, I voted the 'Reign in Heaven' option. Not because of any thing religiously binding, but more because I don't like myself when I'm being mean spirited. And I do actually derive pleasure from helping people, be it little deeds, or full blown efforts.
And as tempting as the head man in hell is... There's only so much torturing I could serve up before getting bored. 's why I stopped playing Sims... :p
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But they live on as ghosts in the Sims, so you can torture other people with them :p
As for me, I'll be content with 'Happy on Earth' ;)
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Heaven as a Seraphim.
You get to have 6 wings and bomb heathens with wide-angle disintegration rays (definitely the former anyways). Also, if anime is to be believed it'll involve lots of copulation (despite angels being sexless).
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Aye aye to that Flipside.
lol @ kamikaze
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Originally posted by Flipside
But they live on as ghosts in the Sims, so you can torture other people with them :p
As for me, I'll be content with 'Happy on Earth' ;)
Not in the first one. :p
And 'Happy on Earth' isn't a valid option. Please select again. [/teleprompt voice]
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Hehe, well that depends how high you are.... :p
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there is no rein in heaven option either you are subservient and have no power or ability to make any diference in the world, but exsist in a great place were you are at least comfortable, or you are in a dark horable place but you get absolute controle you can do what ever you want haveing leagons and hords awaiting your every whim.
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Serve in Heaven.
If I don't like the place I could always 'do a Lucifer' and try to seize the throne. And even then I'd make sure I had enough followers that I'd be able to overthrow Lucifer once we were cast into Hell.
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You only said that to be unpredictable.
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:lol: You already have it all planned out, don't you an0n?
"We attack at Dawn!"
Anyways, serve in heaven. Like Raa said, I hate myself when I'm mean, and do things I don't mean.
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I'd take over hell (throwing off Tiara first ofc) and then surrender to Heaven since im basically a nice guy. Either, or convert Hell into heaven and destroy the souls of those who aren't compatible :P
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Firstly: Hell isn't at war with Heaven - It's basically a prison and a ****hole. So you couldn't surrender.
Secondly: Hell isn't controlled by Lucifer, it's just ruled by him. If you tried to turn it into Heaven, all the former Lucifer followers would **** you up for basically selling out.
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Lets see....spending eternity roasting in a firepit, or spend eternity in paradise. Gee, thats a hard one. :rolleyes: ;) Doesn't matter where I am on the "ladder", I'd rather live it up in paradise.
Then again, to some people, I'm screwed either way since I'm an athiest. :D
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It depends entirely on which offers the better quality of life. In other words, which offers more materialistic indulgence and hedonism.
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that would be the hell option
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Life as an Angel isn't paradise. It's slavery.
You get to watch all the souls be happy while you scrub God's toilet.
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exactly, that's why this is a delema
Originally posted by Vertigo1
Lets see....spending eternity roasting in a firepit, or spend eternity in paradise.
now _you_ aren't roasting you live in the well air conditioned dark fortress of doom powered by the soals of the damned.
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Originally posted by Bobboau
exactly, that's why this is a delema
now _you_ aren't roasting you live in the well air conditioned dark fortress of doom powered by the soals of the damned.
In that case, I change my vote to the hell option. ;)
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im gonna have to reing in hell, because i like fire more than clouds, and i get to be boss too!
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But it's Hell. Take a Russian prison, times the hardship by infinity, and then remove God's presence and you have hell. Why would you even consider setting foot there much less spending all of time there. Definately serving in Heaven.
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i really dont believe either place exists. you see i am a nihilist. everything means nothing and nothing means everything. any ideas people have about reality have no real meaning. the answers are never as important as the questions. use what answeres you are comfortable with. i personally dont care much for answers. most answers are just simple fabrications to hide the fact that we really dont know squat. most people regaurd their chosen religious text as truth, when in reality something in conflict cannot be true.
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Serving in the finest living conditions with absolute respect, verses ruling while you are on fire and getting your ass torn off means only one thing:
Serve in Heaven.
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Er - nobody rules in Hell. Especially not Satan. He'll be weeping* and gnashing his teeth just like everybody else.
*If he has any emotion left. :doubt: Definitely hollering and screaming though.
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Uh, no.
Satan does as he pleases.
He wanders around Earth and pops up to Heaven every so often to chat with God. It's all in the Bible.
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Originally posted by .::Tin Can::.
Serving in the finest living conditions with absolute respect
You're assuming it'd be nice just because it's Heaven.
Did you even watch Dogma?
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Originally posted by an0n
Uh, no.
Satan does as he pleases.
He wanders around Earth and pops up to Heaven every so often to chat with God. It's all in the Bible.
True. But that's because he hasn't been thrown into Hell yet. He has free reign until Judgement Day, but then he'll be banished forever.
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I choose serving in Heaven but then again there is no Hell or heaven there is only pure light
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an0n: true.
Then I'd have to say, screw hell! I'd rather be in Heaven. At least I dont have to worry about the big decisions then (not to mention, get a better view on events from the ground).
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Rule in hell, invade heaven.
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Assuming you reach an equal level of existence to God when you hit Heaven, then I'd just wait till I was of equal strengh, toss the big fella out (preferably down to earth as a mortal so he can find out what that **** feels like) and just take over.
I'd make it a democracy but then it'd probably be Hell 2.
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Originally posted by Kamikaze
Heaven as a Seraphim.
You get to have 6 wings and bomb heathens with wide-angle disintegration rays (definitely the former anyways). Also, if anime is to be believed it'll involve lots of copulation (despite angels being sexless).
You, my dear Sir, have read too much Bastard in my humble opinion. :D
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And by the way, reign in Hell. At least I'm not following the biggest hypocrite in existence. I mean, He went from mutiple genocide (Soddom&co, the flood, egyptian babies) to 'Thou shall not kill'. See what I mean ? At least down there, you know what to expect, and being in charge would be infinitely cooler than suffering :p
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I don't believe in a heaven or a hell (or a singular God for that matter), but if I had to choose, I'd pick serve in heaven :)
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Here's a point no one seems to have considered. If I get the choice to rule in Hell I'm going to take it. No where in the bible does it mention that before the day of judgement someone would arise and take over in hell.
Basically that means that the bible is wrong and therefore I can do whatever I like without having to worry about the limitations it says hell has. i.e the limitations are the ones Hell actually has not the ones the bible claims it has as the bible has now been proven to simply be Heavens propaganda. (Most likely God is testing everyone in heaven too waiting to see when they'll realise that the tests didn't end when they died.)
So number one first thing to do is to kill Satan thereby proving the bible incorrect. After that I can set it up as the ultimate tourist getaway. After all I've got the best musicians and all the loose women! :D
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And/or you could make it better than heaven!
He's right, you know :D
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You cant make happy clouds when you are down, down, dowwwwn...
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Originally posted by karajorma
Here's a point no one seems to have considered. If I get the choice to rule in Hell I'm going to take it. No where in the bible does it mention that before the day of judgement someone would arise and take over in hell.
Basically that means that the bible is wrong and therefore I can do whatever I like without having to worry about the limitations it says hell has. i.e the limitations are the ones Hell actually has not the ones the bible claims it has as the bible has now been proven to simply be Heavens propaganda. (Most likely God is testing everyone in heaven too waiting to see when they'll realise that the tests didn't end when they died.)
So number one first thing to do is to kill Satan thereby proving the bible incorrect. After that I can set it up as the ultimate tourist getaway. After all I've got the best musicians and all the loose women! :D
Nightly; Oliver Reed live!
(well, dead)
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Reign in Hell... (http://homepage.mac.com/clave/smilies/batwings.gif)
Just because..
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And to think that I just started reading Dante's Inferno in English...
Who says that you have to "serve" in heaven? Or for that matter rule in hell?
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From Good Omens
"Listen" said Crowley desperately. "How many musicians do you reckon your side have got, eh? First grade, I mean."
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"Two," said Crowley. "Elgar and Liszt. That's all. We've got the rest. Beethoven, Brahms, all the Bachs, Mozart, the lot. Can you imagine eternity with Elgar?"
And that's just classical music. When it comes to pop music it gets even worse. I've got Hendrix, Queen and the Rolling Stones. Heaven gets New Kids on the Block and The Cheeky Girls.
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Originally posted by Deepblue
And to think that I just started reading Dante's Inferno in English...
Who says that you have to "serve" in heaven? Or for that matter rule in hell?
Please tell me you have heard the phrase before..........?
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Yes I've heard it, but I want to know where it comes from.
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Originally posted by vyper
preferably down to earth as a mortal so he can find out what that **** feels like
i'll give you a second to think about that.
still nothing? okay, then here: He's done it before. As Jesus.
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karjorma, congratulating on quoting from a book with one of the wierdest combinations of authors: Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman.
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
karjorma, congratulating on quoting from a book with one of the wierdest combinations of authors: Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman.
Which strangely was funnier than anything Pratchett ever did on his own (and I was a fan of his earlier work).
Good Omens is actually one of the best books I've ever read on the subject of armageddon if you willing to look below the surface :D There are a lot of very interesting arguments in it. Sadly most people don't get beyond the all tapes in a car turn into The Best of Queen as far as interesting conundrums go ;)
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Reign in Hell. At least the jukebox in Hell will be stocked with better bands. Also just to balance the post at 14 each.
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I actually prefer Gaiman's solo works to the novel though. American Gods is a very impressive novel....
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Only thing I've read of his are a couple of issues of Sandman.
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Originally posted by karajorma
Here's a point no one seems to have considered. If I get the choice to rule in Hell I'm going to take it. No where in the bible does it mention that before the day of judgement someone would arise and take over in hell.
Basically that means that the bible is wrong and therefore I can do whatever I like without having to worry about the limitations it says hell has. i.e the limitations are the ones Hell actually has not the ones the bible claims it has as the bible has now been proven to simply be Heavens propaganda. (Most likely God is testing everyone in heaven too waiting to see when they'll realise that the tests didn't end when they died.)
So number one first thing to do is to kill Satan thereby proving the bible incorrect. After that I can set it up as the ultimate tourist getaway. After all I've got the best musicians and all the loose women! :D
I'm not following your train of thought here... :wtf:
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Basically he is saying that by reigning hell he is going to prove the bible is wrong. By proving the bible is wrong he will not have the limitations in hell described in the bible, and from there on...
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Aha. Well, the Bible isn't proved wrong if he never gets the chance to reign in Hell. :p
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"Can you imagine eternity with Elgar?"
:lol: God that would suck. "Pomp and Circumstance" over and over again for eternity.
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Suffering bothers me. Lots of suffering bothers me lots.
On the other hand: "I say to you that the streets of Hell are paved with fast cars, loose women, and champange!"
Oh Death, where is thy sting?
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i say reign in hell just due to the fact it fits me and i prolly already have a reservation to go there anyways.
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Hoooo, boy. I think a few christian here will bust a gut when they see the reign in hell choice has now more of a following than the serve in heaven's one. :p
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yes, soon it will be time... :)
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Originally posted by Genryu
Hoooo, boy. I think a few christian here will bust a gut when they see the reign in hell choice has now more of a following than the serve in heaven's one. :p
Why? That fact would be consistent with statistics about how many Christians there are in the world. If anything, it's a lot more balanced than I expected. :)
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Serve in heaven...
Even the lowest of angels is still superirior to a deamon.
Besides, heaven is HEAVEN, hell is HELL. People seem to concetrate on the "serve" and "rule" parts instead on the really imprtant ones.
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Originally posted by an0n
You're assuming it'd be nice just because it's Heaven.
Did you even watch Dogma?
You're basing your answer on one of the crappiest movies of all time?
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Firstly, you're a ****ing moron for not liking Dogma.
Secondly, serving in Heaven is SERVING! You don't get to frolick through fields of joy and whatnot. You do God's ***** work. That's why Lucifer got pissed and rebelled. He was like "I'm too good for this ****!"
And no-one 'rules' in Hell. Lucifer commands the hordes he lead against Heaven, yes - But it's still a chaotic place with souls flying all over the place and fires raging. So you can't turn it into a paradise or anything. At best, it'd be like being President of Iraq.
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I voted for reign in hell, but since I made that decision in rush, I do not wish to talk any more about this topic.
I am unsubscribing.
Good debating and reconcillation. :D
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Dogma kicked arse.
One thing; if you reigned in hell you'd get to torture Busted. Eternal paradise vs torturing irritating boybands... very tough choice.
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Firstly, you're a ****ing moron for not liking Dogma.
:nod::yes:
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Seconded. Dogma is great. :yes:
Secondly, I choose option 3 - enlightened, at one with the cosmos.
So there. :p;)
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Originally posted by an0n
Firstly, you're a ****ing moron for not liking Dogma.
Bu hu hu... Now I weep..
B.t.w. - where's you forum ettuiquette?
You don't call people names for not liking movies you like.
Secondly, serving in Heaven is SERVING! You don't get to frolick through fields of joy and whatnot. You do God's ***** work. That's why Lucifer got pissed and rebelled. He was like "I'm too good for this ****!"
//So you were there and know first hand just what serving God means?
And no-one 'rules' in Hell. Lucifer commands the hordes he lead against Heaven, yes - But it's still a chaotic place with souls flying all over the place and fires raging. So you can't turn it into a paradise or anything. At best, it'd be like being President of Iraq.
On this we agree...
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Good Omens was a bloody good book though, I always find Gaiman on his own can get a bit carried away, kind of like Robert Rankin in that respect ;)
Edit : I know you are staff now Goober, but if you get any more icons under your name your going to start mucking up the formatting ;)
I had a discussion with Styxx specifically to make sure that wouldn't occur, so don't worry. ;)