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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Unknown Target on December 04, 2004, 02:11:17 pm

Title: Booyah, we're boned.
Post by: Unknown Target on December 04, 2004, 02:11:17 pm
Here we go:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=535&ncid=535&e=15&u=/ap/20041204/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_china_submarine

So now if there's ever a world war 3, we're not invulnerable anymore.
Title: Booyah, we're boned.
Post by: Ghostavo on December 04, 2004, 02:13:05 pm
And since when were you invulnerable?
Title: Booyah, we're boned.
Post by: Kazan on December 04, 2004, 02:13:17 pm
maybe we'll be a little less arrogant and stop being assholes

right now we have infinite power, and it's corrupting us
Title: Booyah, we're boned.
Post by: Unknown Target on December 04, 2004, 02:23:05 pm
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Originally posted by Ghostavo
And since when were you invulnerable?



Before now, every single country that hated us enough to bomb us didn't have the range. Now China, and possibly her allies, do.
Title: Booyah, we're boned.
Post by: Grey Wolf on December 04, 2004, 02:54:46 pm
What's the countdown clock to when the US is forced to admit they're not the only superpower say now?
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Post by: Ghostavo on December 04, 2004, 02:56:04 pm
Not that they hate you or anything but... Russia?
Title: Booyah, we're boned.
Post by: Grey Wolf on December 04, 2004, 03:00:09 pm
I was aiming for overall superpower. Russia is a military superpower, but it lacks the economic aspects. China, however, is definitely a full-blown superpower. The question is when do we admit it.
Title: Booyah, we're boned.
Post by: Ghostavo on December 04, 2004, 03:01:09 pm
I wasn't answering you :p
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Post by: IceFire on December 04, 2004, 03:08:36 pm
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Originally posted by Ghostavo
Not that they hate you or anything but... Russia?

The Soviet Union was a superpower...when they fell, the present day Russia holds much of that military and technological ability but its not really the economic superpower it used to be.  Its influence is still felt far and abroad but not like it was before.

So at the moment, its just the US.  But China is close to being called "a super power".
Title: Booyah, we're boned.
Post by: Clave on December 04, 2004, 03:14:23 pm
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The United States, France, Russia and the United Kingdom all have submarines capable of launching ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads.


Even adding China, it's still a surprisingly short list...
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Post by: Corsair on December 04, 2004, 03:32:04 pm
double post.
Title: Booyah, we're boned.
Post by: Corsair on December 04, 2004, 03:32:42 pm
China still had ICBMs...they could bomb us if they wanted. As far as the submarine goes, I'm sure it'll probably be noisy as hell, unless they've stolen stuff from us (which they probably did).
[arrogant American]Even so, I doubt it'll be nearly as quiet as an Ohio...we'll be able to hear it.[/arrogant American]
Title: Booyah, we're boned.
Post by: Grey Wolf on December 04, 2004, 03:40:10 pm
Doesn't matter if we can hear it if it already fired off its missiles. My question is whether they're conventional warheads or MIRVs...
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Post by: aldo_14 on December 04, 2004, 04:37:35 pm
Knowing the Chinese approach, they'd probably just make sure they have more nukes than the Americans have anti-nuclear countermeasures (that includes anti-sub weapons).
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Post by: IceFire on December 04, 2004, 06:32:13 pm
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Originally posted by Corsair
China still had ICBMs...they could bomb us if they wanted. As far as the submarine goes, I'm sure it'll probably be noisy as hell, unless they've stolen stuff from us (which they probably did).
[arrogant American]Even so, I doubt it'll be nearly as quiet as an Ohio...we'll be able to hear it.[/arrogant American]

As quiet as the Russian Alfa class?
Title: Booyah, we're boned.
Post by: Corsair on December 04, 2004, 08:30:06 pm
Well, maybe a bit quieter than that...people who know claim those things sound like freakin' rust buckets.
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Post by: .::Tin Can::. on December 04, 2004, 11:32:38 pm
Sub Captain: "We gotta launch this ICBM! Try and sneak past that ship."
*clank clank smack clank whine turn clank clank*

Ship Exo: "Sir, did you hear something?"
Ship Captain: "Not a damn thing."