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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stunaep on December 08, 2004, 10:07:14 am
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http://comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=7515
Steven Beck will direct a big screen adaptation of the popular sci-fi TV series Babylon 5. The movie, titled The Memory of Shadows, is intended for theatrical release and was written by series creator J. Michael Straczynski. Production Weekly reports that the project starts filming this April in the UK.
In "Shadows," the technology of the ancient and extinct Shadow race is being unleashed upon the galaxy by an unknown force, and Earthforce intelligence officer Diane Baker, whose brother was recently killed in a mysterious explosion, it out to find out who is behind the intergalactic conspiracy.
Joining her is Galen, a techno-mage who has been charged with keeping the technology out of the hands of those who would abuse it.
Galen! Wee!
Though I'm sad that no other B5 main character was mentioned. But I guess having a new main character makes the film more easily accessible to newcomers and makes it possible to have a big-name star in it.
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F**king excellent news!
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This is great, and Galen was a great character (interesting fact, the actors Dad, Edward Woodward has also played a technomage in Excalibur).
Considering the way Excalibur went, it's probably best that they stick to a film :)
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Theaterical release?
... this will suck sweaty orc balls.
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Intended for theatrical, not being produced as a theatrical piece. Thinking about it, so were some of the greatest stories of our time ;)
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YessSSSSS!
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Cautiously optimistic. I LOVE Babylon 5...I look forward to seeing how this pans out. Hopefully they get a decent budget, a good team, pull together a good story and production, and it will go down in history as a success!
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woot!
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This'll show how B5 should be done as a lesson to the idiots over at TNT,
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Kickass
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Originally posted by IceFire
Cautiously optimistic
hmn, this could go one of two ways...:doubt:
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That's great news. :)
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I hope that for the love of all that is holy in this world, they leave out the corny ass speeches from the series.
Don't get me wrong, I loved the series, but Sheridan, Sinclair and even Ivanova made some speeches that made me want to puke.
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Jeffery Doyle mentioned in a recent interview that he, among other cast members, had been tapped about doing this mentioned B5 movie we're talking about.
Problem is, Stephen "Dr. Marcus" Briggs (Biggs?) death kinda took the wind out of their sails for awhile.
Have hope, all :). Remember, faith manages.
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This will suck.
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Originally posted by Tiara
I hope that for the love of all that is holy in this world, they leave out the corny ass speeches from the series.
Don't get me wrong, I loved the series, but Sheridan, Sinclair and even Ivanova made some speeches that made me want to puke.
God, yeah. It had it's moments, but the "we're important - listen to us preach!" moments often irritated the hell out of me. When it works, it's good; when it fails, it's horribly horribly awful TV.
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B5 SG1 and Farscape will never die :)
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Originally posted by aldo_14
God, yeah. It had it's moments, but the "we're important - listen to us preach!" moments often irritated the hell out of me. When it works, it's good; when it fails, it's horribly horribly awful TV.
DRAMATIC MUSIC
Starships!
Zoom on [important white guy]. He must look like he's suffering from constipation
Starship megabattle!
Chaotic something
DRAMATIC MUSIC
[Important white guy]'s love whispers something
Good guys win!
Glorious Speech of GloryVictory!
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I so hated Ivanova's thing in the Earth Civil War.
"I am death incarnated" or something she said. That was corny beyond belief. :doubt: She didn't even say that line very well. At the very least she could've made it sound sincere and not like a B-movie actress would do it.
Without these little speeches, B5 would've been much better. A few speeches after some glorious battle is fine. But not every gawddamn time they turned around.
Although, I have to exclude G'Kar though. His speeches were actually interesting and made you think.
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I want an Andromeda movie!
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I am Grey
I stand between the..
*thunk*
enough of that.
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Originally posted by Tiara
I so
Although, I have to exclude G'Kar though. His speeches were actually interesting and made you think.
Very true. Remeber when he was riding the elevator with Vir after Narn was conquered and Vir tried to apologize for the wrongoings of his people? He cut his hand and with every blood dop he said, "Dead- dead- dead -dead- how can you apologize for that?" with his voice on the verge of breaking.
His war declaration to the Ceantauri was also awesome.
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Those were my favorite characters(Londo and G'Kar), their relationship more than any battle or event, defined B5.
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You should be lucky that you got the original voices, and did not need to hear the german dubbing. Sheridan's dubbed voice is fitting perfectly for "Scarecrow and Mrs. King", but not for what's supposed to be a determined space station commander. :ick:
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"Mmm. Der Vorlons ist gut, ja?"
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:lol:
I'll rip a short dialogue off my DVDs, tomorrow. Then you can see for yourself.
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It's probably funnier in Japanese.
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German dubbing = :ick:
ANY dubbing = :ick:
I'm just glad we only get subbing here in Holland for all programs besides children's cartoons.
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Originally posted by Tiara
I so hated Ivanova's thing in the Earth Civil War.
"I am death incarnated" or something she said. That was corny beyond belief. :doubt: She didn't even say that line very well. At the very least she could've made it sound sincere and not like a B-movie actress would do it.
I am quite a B5 fan, but on this matter, I unfortunately must agree.
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This is why Marcus should have left that damn device alone :(
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At the very least she could've made it sound sincere and not like a B-movie actress would do it.
You keep forgetting that before B5 she was a B-movie actress.
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g'kar was a shakperian actor. so that probibly explained why is character was so good.
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Originally posted by Nuke
g'kar was a shakperian actor. so that probibly explained why is character was so good.
I'd say it explains why his ACTING was so good. :p
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Originally posted by IceFire
Cautiously optimistic.
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Originally posted by Liberator
You keep forgetting that everyone in B5 is a B-movie actor
Fixed it for you
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w00t!
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Oh come now. It wasn't THAT bad.
Ivanova's poor delivery of that speech was what made that scene nauseating, but it could have been redeemed if the cameras cut to the reaction shots of the Earth destroyer's bridge crew.
You have to admit, if you were about to go into battle and your opponent tells you in a psychotic way that she is:
A. Russian
B. Death Incarnate
C. God sent him/her
....you would think that all your battle readiness would instantly be put in check.
In reguard to this new B5 production, I don't know. "The Legend of the Rangers" left a nasty taste in my mouth. I believe the B5 Universe has little story left to tell.
I think its time Staczinsky started writing NEW scifi-stories. He's a capable story-teller, but sticking with B5 just shows that he wants to play it safe and to stick with rearranging past ideas instead of developing new ones.
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I think it is a weakness in every Sci-Fi producer that they have some kind of millenium-long, pan-galactic History locked up in their heads that they just have to get out.
George Lucas, is another example of this ;)
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Good thing they kept the writing in house.
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Originally posted by Omniscaper
Oh come now. It wasn't THAT bad.
Ivanova's poor delivery of that speech was what made that scene nauseating, but it could have been redeemed if the cameras cut to the reaction shots of the Earth destroyer's bridge crew.
You have to admit, if you were about to go into battle and your opponent tells you in a psychotic way that she is:
A. Russian
B. Death Incarnate
C. God sent him/her
....you would think that all your battle readiness would instantly be put in check.
Actually, I'd just throw in a cheeky comment midway through the speech to annoy them.
"I am death incarnate"
"What, so you're dead then?"
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A good example for a decent sci-fi-series is the new Battlestar Galactica. From the episodes I've seen so far, I can honestly say that it's some seriously good stuff.
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Originally posted by mitac
A good example for a decent sci-fi-series is the new Battlestar Galactica. From the episodes I've seen so far, I can honestly say that it's some seriously good stuff.
I like it in many ways; they don't dodge the issues other shows do - like supplies of food, water & fuel - and it's quite 'gritty', which is a nice change. Some very nice touches too, like the jump-every-23-minutes bit from one of the first few episodes (maybe the very first), and sfx is good.
The only thing is that it's also very slow moving at the moment IMO - there's not a great deal happening beyond long exposition a lot of the time, and that can get dull.
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Originally posted by Omniscaper
In reguard to this new B5 production, I don't know. "The Legend of the Rangers" left a nasty taste in my mouth. I believe the B5 Universe has little story left to tell.
I think its time Staczinsky started writing NEW scifi-stories. He's a capable story-teller, but sticking with B5 just shows that he wants to play it safe and to stick with rearranging past ideas instead of developing new ones.
:lol:
You should really go and read Legions of Fire trilogy, Passing of the Techno-mages trilogy and Psi Corps trilogy. As well as To Dream in the City of Sorrows.
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Actually, JMS rushed through writing Legend of The Rangers, and it did have lots of potential - Lots of faults to be "fixed", though. The original B5 pilot wasn't anything amazing, either. And lets not forget that Crusade was shaping up to be a fine show, the popular demand for the DVDs showing that. I too am cautious that TMOS is going to be another "action adventure" type B5 movie ... Thirdspace anyone? But, ITS picking up several plot elements from the dropped Crusade series (I have three of the scripts from the unaired episodes, and all I can say is - Wow, getting good.)
Still, no matter how brilliant the movie is, or no matter how many hardcore fans out there are going to be spreading the love that IS B5, I just *dont* think it can really hit it big on the big screen. Not for any faults of its own, but just the general public is blinded by TV trash these days.
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well, this could be just in time to blindside Episode 3's release.. :p
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hopefully this shows the technomages figuring out how to replicate The tech themselves
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Originally posted by mitac
A good example for a decent sci-fi-series is the new Battlestar Galactica. From the episodes I've seen so far, I can honestly say that it's some seriously good stuff.
is that out already, **** i should pay more attention to the scifi chanel :D
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Originally posted by Kazan
hopefully this shows the technomages figuring out how to replicate The tech themselves
Its covered in the technomage trilogy.
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no it's not - they don't discover a new way to replicate the tech
i read the triology just a month or two ago
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Originally posted by Nuke
is that out already, **** i should pay more attention to the scifi chanel :D
It's on Sky in the Uk, I'm not sure whether it's out in the US or not.
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Originally posted by Nuke
is that out already, **** i should pay more attention to the scifi chanel :D
Sky One is showing it in the UK. Don't know if anyone else is though. I know that we are getting the episodes first.
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They will start airing them in the US on January 14th. click me! (http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/)
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I agree BSG 2004 IS EXCELLENT so far. Ronald Moore is also a good writer considering he wrote the only good TNG Trek movie First Contact. In reguard to the remark that its slow paced, open your eyes dude!!! The stuff they're showing so far is setting the stage for some heavy duty events. I wonder if this show is written with a story arc in mind like B5.... speaking of B5...BACK TO TOPIC!!!!
B5 doing well in theaters against the Lucas flesh mass, unlikely. I've encountered many Scifi folks who have no interest in B5 at all, and my attempts to convert them was met with much resistance. I guess its soap opera-like story structure made B5 an aquired taste. I can't think of any stratedgy to get people to watch a movie based on a TV-show they've never seen or liked. Perhaps if it were presented as just some new Scifi flick and hint that its in the B5 universe, it could work.
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Originally posted by Omniscaper
I agree BSG 2004 IS EXCELLENT so far. Ronald Moore is also a good writer considering he wrote the only good TNG Trek movie First Contact. In reguard to the remark that its slow paced, open your eyes dude!!! The stuff they're showing so far is setting the stage for some heavy duty events. I wonder if this show is written with a story arc in mind like B5.... speaking of B5...BACK TO TOPIC!!!!
It is slow paced. All I ask for as a bit of proper story progression.......
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Then watch Andromeda
ROTFL
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Originally posted by Omniscaper
Then watch Andromeda
ROTFL
I'd have have open bowel surgery in the woods with a stick than watch that filth, thankyouverymuch.
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Nice! Oh come now, Cpt Hercules and his space monkeys, how could you resist!?
Anyways.....
Ronald Moore stated that BSG is a war DRAMA. With action sequences of course. I love it so far. The show is very thought provoking and the issues they tackle are ones Trek and B5 would barely if not at all, touch. Watch the latest episode "Flesh and Bone"? I think its GENIOUS wrriting. This is the first Scifi show I've watched that is quite down to earth. I know that sounds strange considering its a scifi genre.
If action and fast paced escapism is what you want, then BSG may not be for you. This show focuses on the HUMAN element of the scenarios they face moreso than the scenario itself. Don,t get me wrong, I love a good dogfight and war campaign as much as the next guy. But when you start giving a damn about the characters, the war sequencecs get that much more intense.
Remember, this show is still a fledgiling, but its already starting to show a HUGE potential for greatness in the scifi genre.
WHAT R WE DOING... THIS IS A B5 THREAD!!!!! SORRY!!! We'll take this discussion elsewhere now.