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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: an0n on December 08, 2004, 05:14:35 pm
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=518&ncid=716&e=6&u=/ap/20041205/ap_on_re_eu/france_lost_explosives
So not only did the explosives managed to get past French sniffer dogs and all the **** the US supposedly has at it's airports - but some random person now has 5oz of military grade explosives to do with as they please.
AhahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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This has got to be the most idiotic, irresponsible act of "security" in history...
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:lol: Depressing and yet funny...
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not very funny when you fly a lot.
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heh, I fly about once every 4 weeks :) If I let things worry me, I'd never do it, but at the end of the day the odds of dying through mechanical failure is far higher than the odds of terrorism.
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The odds of choking on a peanut are higher than dying from terrorism - in the US.
Obviously, places like Afghanistan have a higher rate of terrorism. And in Etheopia you'd be hard pressed to find a peanut.
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5 oz. doesn't sound like a whole lot. Anyone have an idea if it could do much damage?
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1.25lbs can 'demolish' a truck.
So it'd probably be enough for a decent mail-bomb.
EDIT: 16oz per LB; 1.25lb = 20oz
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Remind me not to eat peanuts while on a flight, might be pushing my luck ;)
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The odds of choking on a peanut are higher than dying from terrorism - in the US.
What about the odds for choking on a pretzel? Could be an explanation for US foreign policy in recent years... :p
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http://science.howstuffworks.com/c-42.htm
Interpolating a bit from that, I'd guess you could punch through the aircraft's skin, IF your explosive was backed with something solid like a main strut or undercarriage leg, but the chances are pretty small....
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Yeah. I heard about this.
Though the officials say that its not dangerous, since it has no trigger or timer, and doesn't respond to heat or contact.
The chances of this ending up with someone who actually know how to use it, much less has the desire to, are almost negligible.
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Imagine explaining it when you get through customs........
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Chances are that someone will wonder where the Blu-tac stuff came from and just throw it, to be honest :)
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WAR ON PEANUTS & PRETZELS!
;)
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That's disturbing. Not only that they let the explosives get away, but that they think it's perfectly fine to put stuff into some random person's bag without their knowledge or consent.
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Yeah, I thought that myself to be honest, what happens if this person starts thinking they're going to be sent to Gitmo Bay or the like and works themselves into a heart attack?
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Goober, what the f*ck is up with all these avatars of yours? :p
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France: "....uh... oops........."
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Originally posted by Tiara
Goober, what the f*ck is up with all these avatars of yours? :p
He's lording it over us.
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Speak for yourself, there is no 'us'
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That's cos I've not finished with the stickyback plastic yet.
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I'll be running away now...
*thinks about coke-snorting Blue Peter presenter*
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The stuff is harmless without a detonator.....and detonators for military grade plastic explosives is not something you can buy in a drug store.
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Originally posted by Clave
*thinks about coke-snorting Blue Peter presenter*
I believe you missed out "gang-banging", there.
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Originally posted by Col. Fishguts
The stuff is harmless without a detonator.....and detonators for military grade plastic explosives is not something you can buy in a drug store.
I dunno, any sensible military would make it kind of low tech. Generally, all you need is a high current runnning through it.
The whole thing does seem quite stupid.
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Well, since it's the second french-bashing thread in a few days, I find myself forced to ask you a question : what's the more dangerous ? 5oz of explosive lost once ? Or assaut weapon that can be bought nearly everywhere ?
Now, stop this, or I shall taunt you a second time :p
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This isn't French bashing. It's French security guard bashing........
anyways, didn't a similar thing happen a few years back with a simulated bomb at LAX?
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I find it inexpressibly..... stupid of any security force to carry out that kind of "excersice".
The fact that it was the French security isn't an excuse, either.
Now, that may sound like a French-bashing comment (and, in a way, yes, it is), but I'm also referring to all the synagogue bombings and other acts that have gotten near rampant in France the past few years - if that hasn't shown the French Security Forces how to deal with things, then it's only thier own fault.
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Yes, they ****ed up by losing the packet. Would you prefer they never train so that they can miss when actual terrorists try to slip their explosives, generally in more quantity thant what was used ? And as for the near rampant synagogue bombings -sigh-, I've guess Sharon propaganda machine wprks really well. Yes, there is problems with jews in France. Such as the problems there are with Musulmans, Gypsies, and every other minorities. Not as bad as Germany, when there's a neo-nazi party in the works.
Frankly, i'm getting fed up by the Jew authorities. By crying 'wolf', or in their case, anti-semitism, every time someone doesn't agree with their positions, I think they waste the sympathy capital given to them during WW2. And they're going to be very sorry if that ever happen, given how the entire musulman eastern countries would like nothing more than to send them packing again.
I sincerely hope it will never come to that though. Losing the cultural wealth of the Jew country and religion would be a disaster in my opinion.
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They should've stuck it in a bag of their own rather than pick a random carrier - that way they could tag the bag somehow and use that to find it in case it got lost. (Say, a GPS transponder or somesuch.)
I don't think the idea was completely without merit, but they could've done it better.
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Sack the Dog, that's what I say.
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Originally posted by kasperl
I dunno, any sensible military would make it kind of low tech. Generally, all you need is a high current runnning through it.
The whole thing does seem quite stupid.
Don't know exactly, haven't had the chance to try it out (yet) :nervous:
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[color=66ff00]I always thought this was a fantastic overlook in security: Link (http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9610/08/n.ireland.update/)
Consider that those bombs had to be driven through the entrance of the gate and left there.
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Didn't the IRA force people to drive bombs through checkpoints (i.e. people with legit access) by taking their families hostage, though?
(can't find any internet link on it; albeit I did see something indicating the security camera had failed / been turned off)
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The IRA are one of the nicest and most effective terrorist forces in history.
They almost always gave warnings, only butchered who they absolutely had to and did so with a maximum of disruption to British life. And because of it, they're getting their own way in the end.
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Didn't the IRA force people to drive bombs through checkpoints (i.e. people with legit access) by taking their families hostage, though?
(can't find any internet link on it; albeit I did see something indicating the security camera had failed / been turned off)
[color=66ff00]Yeah, they're real nice people, did that on more than one occasion.
This was not one of them though, drove straight in, parked and walked away.
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Yeah blowing the leg off a toddler in a london bomb made them real nice people an0n.
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Originally posted by vyper
Yeah blowing the leg off a toddler in a london bomb made them real nice people an0n.
So what would you rather a terrorist organization do? Only mildly burn people? Give them really bad bruises?
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Originally posted by an0n
The IRA are one of the nicest and most effective terrorist forces in history.
Nicest no google Jean McConville, most effective maybe, they were certainly getting good later on, but like all armed organisations they tended to attract a large amount of scum with no regard for other peoples lives, enemys or not.
Originally posted by an0n
They almost always gave warnings, only butchered who they absolutely had to and did so with a maximum of disruption to British life. And because of it, they're getting their own way in the end.
Right, wrong, half right, later bombings like the canary wharf and heathrow mortars were designed this way, earlier stuff wasnt. As for getting their own way, they havent yet, nor are they likely to in the future. To be honest not many people in the south actually want a 32 county republic, nice in theory and all that but would you want that lot up there as part of your country?
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Originally posted by Sandwich
but I'm also referring to all the synagogue bombings [/
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When did a synagogue got bombed in France? I wonder what newspaper you're reading... Superman versus Spawn?
'nyway, I heard about that story, and, well, regardless the fact that thing is less dangerous than, obviously, plastic knives, the first thing I thought was "man, there's someone who better not get caught by the customs, especially if he goes to the states... from france :p"
And lastly, aren't you awfully late? It was liek two weeks ago.
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Originally posted by an0n
So what would you rather a terrorist organization do? Only mildly burn people? Give them really bad bruises?
Oooh.... how about not be terrorists?