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Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: redmenace on December 10, 2004, 06:20:29 pm
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=319403
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: Knight Templar on December 10, 2004, 06:41:47 pm
Goddamnit, now they find it after I start using it.
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: Grey Wolf on December 10, 2004, 06:47:08 pm
Let the MPAA try to sue me for downloading stuff they don't own :p
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: Rictor on December 10, 2004, 07:20:48 pm
I remember when there were literally two BT sites on the Net, and one was kind of small. It doesn't seem that long ago to me, and yet here is an article saying that BT account for almost half of all file-sharing.

viva la revolution!!
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Post by: deep_eyes on December 10, 2004, 07:27:15 pm
haha! no legal laws on Uploads! hahaha bite that u yellow belly smacktards hatin bastards!
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Post by: an0n on December 10, 2004, 07:30:12 pm
BitTorrent is gonna end up as a generational marker, same as Napster and KaZaA did.

It'll be:

<[color=34324][/color]noob> Wow! This Ubra-Share 2.1 kickz ass!!111lol
<[color=34324][/color]notn00b> Bah, that new stuff is ****. I remember 1.0 with that stupid pop-up bug. Now THOSE were good times.
<[color=34324][/color]guy> BitTorrent kicked it's ass, till the FBI got Cohen. Then it went to ****.
<[color=34324][/color]OldGuy> KAZAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!4985734rhpe9yfrwerfiqweyrhp234fu9eryf34;ptufhyde9pcviaheru0h489trh3r
<[color=34324][/color]guy> Yeah, that about sums it up....
<[color=34324][/color]Vet> Nay, children. For in the years gone by, before the RIAA did sink it's black and poisonous claws into the internet there did thrive a vast metropolis of music-only piracy - a place where all the files were real and had thousands of peers. We were happy in that place and we did be thankful for the graces it bestowed, and we did call it Napster.
<[color=34324][/color]an0n> Pfff. Sites > *
<[color=34324][/color]DeadMan> Newsgroups were better, you ****ing fag.
<[color=34324][/color]an0n> Blow me.
<[color=34324][/color]DeadMan> Is that at the standard rate or do you want the 'Internet Only, Cum-In-Mouth Special'?
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: Grey Wolf on December 10, 2004, 07:41:48 pm
Not sure how you'd really shut down BitTorrent though. It's not centralized like it's predecessors.
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: an0n on December 10, 2004, 07:48:59 pm
Just start attacking the trackers with lawsuits and using media-hype to scare people away.
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: Rictor on December 10, 2004, 07:57:01 pm
Well, considering that most server, or enough of them in any case, are located in countries with saner copyright laws, you can't really shut down BT by going after the trackers. I remember maybe a year and a half ago, Suprnova went down for months and a few large sites poped up in its place, but then they started going down and it looked like the end. And yet, here we are, and BT has never been bigger or more popular.

New trackers will spring up if the old ones get shut down, but the chances of that happening are small, since as I said the servers are located outside the jurisdiction of the MPAA and RIAA.
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Post by: deep_eyes on December 10, 2004, 10:49:13 pm
ph8r th3 t0rr3nt!
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Post by: Stealth on December 10, 2004, 10:49:30 pm
funny, you'd think Napster, Morpheus, etc. would've packed their bags and moved themselves to, say, a place outside their jurisdiction
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: redmenace on December 10, 2004, 11:02:36 pm
hmm well lets not forget the MPAA and RIAA have bought and paid for politicians. But also, is there any way to track down downloaders?
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: Rictor on December 10, 2004, 11:26:37 pm
yup, its not really too difficult, especially if you're willing to pay millions to hire someone who knows how. Some clients even just display the IPs of all the people connected.

The thing is, its not technically illegal. If you get a nasty letter from you ISP, check Suprnova, they have a special forum set up for how to deal with threats and so forth.

edit: from what I remember, its enough to just say "oops, yeah there was some spyware/viruses on my computer, but now I ran Norton and it should be OK. I have no idea what sort of deranged criminal would pirate copyrighted materials, it certainly wasn't me." See, by acting all stupid, we're talking like typical housewife level here, you create the impression that you barely know how to turn on the computer, much less all this stuff about bits and torrents and so on. It must have been those hackers, hacking into the mainframe and using my computer to download illegal software. My friend told me about this, she says they can get into your computer and steal your megahertz. They're probably Russian, you know, I never did trust them....

well, you get the idea. Like I said, check the Suprnova forums.
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Post by: DamoclesX on December 11, 2004, 01:45:08 am
yup
lets hear it for canada

file sharing is LEGAL here

I"m legally stealing america movies and tv shows

bahahahaahhha
lol
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Post by: Thorn on December 11, 2004, 02:01:50 am
No, it isnt. But that never stopped anyone.
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Post by: MicroPsycho on December 11, 2004, 10:49:50 am
I don't thinks its legal but I don't thinks it's illegal either. It must fall into some sort og grey area.
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: Fury on December 11, 2004, 11:50:23 am
http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8240
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: DamoclesX on December 11, 2004, 12:09:36 pm
Last I heard

out court rules that it was -legal-

I will check it out tho.
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Post by: diamondgeezer on December 11, 2004, 02:04:38 pm
Bit Torrent is illegal? Well, it's a good job I'm not using it to download Battle for Middle-earth... Oh, wait...
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: Knight Templar on December 11, 2004, 02:10:16 pm
:nervous:

Or Season two of Family Guy...
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: Zarax on December 11, 2004, 02:13:14 pm
I sincerely prefer e-mule over BT, much less hassle...
Fortunately i don't need to download pretty much anything, i've got a MSDN subscription and all the music i listen is from groups old enough to get discounted CDs...
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Post by: Kosh on December 11, 2004, 03:49:51 pm
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Not sure how you'd really shut down BitTorrent though. It's not centralized like it's predecessors.



Uh, napster was the only one that was centralized. Every P2P filesharing network is decentralized, this is why the RIAA and the MPAA can't kill it.
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Post by: BlackDove on December 11, 2004, 03:59:46 pm
*checks his kazaa*

Still 2.8 million people hanging on it.

Torrent is prolly better with the correct sites, but Kazaa>all else for porn ATM.
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: Zarax on December 11, 2004, 04:01:23 pm
except that you get a lot of fakes right now, or tons of DRM ****
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Post by: deep_eyes on December 11, 2004, 09:54:16 pm
well as far as im concern, the DL speeds on Kazaa has been bad cause its like to get a decent bandwith on anything, u have to be a paying user. from what i read from a friend of mine in a email explaining it to me, he said that the free users get stuck with 20kb on average depending on source of DL.

pay users get whatever bandwith they can muster.

bit torrent got its ups and downs, but as far as i remember, the dude that made it, has a paper stating its legal uses and how there are no laws for UPLOADS .....

w00t.
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: Alan Bolte on December 11, 2004, 10:28:13 pm
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Originally posted by BD
*checks his kazaa*

Still 2.8 million people hanging on it.

Torrent is prolly better with the correct sites, but Kazaa>all else for porn ATM.

What are you smoking? Empornium is way better. Bittorrent is the way to go. I think they might be in a closed-membership period at the moment, though. Still, it can't be that difficult to find a friend with an invite.
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Post by: an0n on December 11, 2004, 11:17:07 pm
Yeah, it is:

Quote
How many invites do I get?
pervs with > 1.5 share ratio and a minimum upload of 50 GB get 1 invite
good pervs <1.2 get 2 invites
good pervs >1.2 get 3 invites
pushers get 5 invites


To get good perv status, you need to donate money to the site. And they keep track of your invite family tree - so if you invite someone and they just leech, you get punished.

I signed up before they closed the membership, though. Mwuahaha.
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Post by: Nuke on December 12, 2004, 11:44:08 am
been using gnucleus sence i got my cable modem. its open source and pretty effective. bit torrent is something i dont really get. i remember the good old days of ftp file sharing :D upload a few files, download a few, and noone gave a **** :D
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: BlackDove on December 12, 2004, 04:38:38 pm
Anyone wanna pass me an invite? I could use it.
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Post by: an0n on December 12, 2004, 07:29:00 pm
Methinks you can buy your way in by donating money to the site. There's a whole forum for it.
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: redmenace on December 14, 2004, 02:16:05 pm
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=328977
@#!$^@$##$@! BASTARDS
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: Knight Templar on December 14, 2004, 04:56:20 pm
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Originally posted by redmenace
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=328977
@#!$^@$##$@! BASTARDS


Goddamnit...
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Post by: Triple Ace on December 14, 2004, 08:41:23 pm
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Originally posted by Zarax
I sincerely prefer e-mule over BT, much less hassle...
Fortunately i don't need to download pretty much anything, i've got a MSDN subscription and all the music i listen is from groups old enough to get discounted CDs...


At least BT downloads stuff unlike e-mule which has files sit in waiting for hours, download a little then go back to waiting for hours. Also if someone screws with Bt I'm gonna be pissed.
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Post by: Corsair on December 14, 2004, 10:13:15 pm
http://money.cnn.com/2004/12/14/news/fortune500/piracy/index.htm?cnn=yes

more news!
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: Flipside on December 14, 2004, 10:19:36 pm
The (lawsuit) route is not perfect, in the same way that the war against drugs isn't perfect either," said Sims, a partner in Proskauer Rose. "But there's probably less heroine and cocaine out there now than if we weren't doing anything."  

:lol: Poor misguided fool.....
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Post by: Krackers87 on December 14, 2004, 10:45:09 pm
Or just use kazza resurection which doesent need invites or caries spyware or even deals with memberships, yet still connects to the kazza network, with unlimited speeds.
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: Rictor on December 14, 2004, 11:15:47 pm
Kazaa resurection? What now?

Explain.
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: Krackers87 on December 14, 2004, 11:18:57 pm
continuation of kazza lite, the version of kazza put out that didnt have spyware.

You can find ressurection on suprnova
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: redmenace on December 15, 2004, 01:23:31 am
well hopefully they won't go after tvtorrents and the such. Then I will be pissed.
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Post by: karajorma on December 15, 2004, 04:32:37 pm
Sadly it's not even just BitTorrent who are getting it in the neck.

ShareConnector Raided By the Dutch Authorities (http://respectp2p.org/)
Title: BitTorrent Becoming well known...?
Post by: Rictor on December 15, 2004, 04:34:59 pm
a big Finnish tracker got raided recently.

damn