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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Grey Wolf on December 13, 2004, 06:19:02 pm
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Post what type of sword (or other non-modern weapon) you would get if you had the money.
This Iaito is rather nice:
(http://www.bugeivideo.com/foto/basic_blade_650.jpeg)
But so is this longsword....
(http://store.swordforum.com/angustrim/big/pictures/eks.jpg)
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I like the Iaito...
Aragorn's elven knife isn't bad either.
(http://www.by-the-sword.com/acatalog/images/uc1371WGNB.jpg)
Scimitars are always badass too.
(http://store1.yimg.com/I/swblades_1822_6405915)
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The Hanwei.
http://www.weaponmasters.com/?ID=909700e5e8c7a804f56dc3ad40164263&SORT=PRICE_UP&ITEM=PC-2005
That or the Katana. I actually held one of those once. It was amazingly light weight.
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(http://www.etrex.com/showroom/agriculture/chainsaws/dynamac-dy51.jpg)
;)
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I'll generally take any weapon, except for Japanese swords - they are nice, and light, but the actual damage potential of them stinks compared to other weapons. A katana slash probably would not even be able to cut through a thin mail shirt.
I've got a bit of a collection - A replica High Middle Ages longsword, a replica late-Roman short sword, an actual World War II-issue Nepalese Khukri, and a half dozen daggers and large knives. But my personal favorite item I own is this
(http://www.museumreplicas.com/imagelib/0600118_D_000.jpg)
Not a very light or 'elegant' weapon but still fun. If you can get used to controlling the weight. It is a bit hard to stop a swing of this thing at first. But doubly dangerous - it can function as a sledgehammer, or the spike can be rammed through a six inch or so piece of wood or a thin piece of metal.
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Katana aren't designed to cut armor. They're designed to cut flesh, and have no equals in that arena.
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(http://store1.yimg.com/I/greatsword_1816_34350147)(http://www.cbswords.com/images/claymore.jpg)
If I get a sword, I want a Scottish Claymore. 42 inches of steel blade. With a grip large enough that you could get a good powerful swing :nod:
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those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't
(http://www.arms.ru/tank/fotos/abr_1a.jpg)
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You realize that any tank, even a Panzer, is still considered a modern weapon, correct?
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would a flint-lock pistol be a modern-weapon?
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A flint-lock pistol has so little accurate range it's not even funny...
If not a sword, the English Longbow or a Mongol Composite bow would be quite a weapon too (too bad there'd be no way for be to pull a real one without extensive training).
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Originally posted by PhReAk
those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't
(http://www.arms.ru/tank/fotos/abr_1a.jpg)
its "those who live by the sword get shot by those who live by the gun"
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A Medieval War-Hammer (the thing varus posted), or a pair of these:
(http://www.needlesports.com/acatalog/campxla210axe.jpg)
Or maybe a proper War-Hammer, like the thing the Germanic Chief had at the beginning of Gladiator.
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An antique chinese jian- those things are just gorgeous when they're polished up right.
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lucas4unow/album?.dir=48f8
They're harder to find than good japanese swords though :sigh:
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Personally, I'll stick with either a Katana, for non-armoured opponents, or a flail or mace for armoured ones ;)
As for Bows, the Welsh Longbow is the one you want, best bow ever made, shot by the best Bowmen who ever lived.
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This longbow resides in my possession. I once split a 1" wooden rod with two arrows in a row with it, very nice shooting. Unfortunately I'm badly out of from and my arrows are all misspined from being shot too many times so I can't hit anyhting anymore.
http://www.selfbow.com/hickyew/timbercruiser.html
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Originally posted by ChronoReverse
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If I get a sword, I want a Scottish Claymore. 42 inches of steel blade. With a grip large enough that you could get a good powerful swing :nod:
Weighs an absolute ****ing ton, though......
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A Gladius
(http://www.odinblades.com/Swords2k/GladiusX.jpg)
Originating from Spain, the Romans chose this for their standard foot soldier battle sword. It's short, strong & chisel tipped to pierce any armor. A thrusting weapon that can also parry devastating blows. Used by the Roman army for hundeds of years.
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A greatsword of any kind....doesn't have to be a claymore..
Now that's a weapon for real men!:D
Knives and schimitars are for women! ;7
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Gladius. :yes:
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Chinese Dao.
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Viking Wolf Sword:
(http://www.weaponmasters.com/images//products/WM/WM-1729L.jpg)
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I want one of these.:D A guy really had one made for like $3,000.
(http://www.planetgamecube.com/media/gen001630.jpg)
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People here seem to think that a katana is inferior to medieval swords. So dead wrong. Both have their pros and cons. Assuming we have two equally trained persons with the respective weapons, there are various factors you must consider.
For one, the person wielding the katana has the advantage of speed and agility against the more sluggish sword. A real katana also usually has hit range on it's size because the wielder can more easily extend his/her full arm due to the light weight of the katana. Whereas the sword wielder has a harder time extending his arm fully and still keep full thrust force behind it.
It's a classic brute force Vs speed and agilty match-up. It can go either way.
Personally I prefer a katana.
Here, Katana Vs gun! (http://www.compfused.com/directlink/252/) The katana literally splits the bullet in half! :drevil: It went through solid baboo and stone as well...
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Sword: Epee
Guns: Flint-lock pistol
That's all a grown man needs ;7
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Epee? You big ponce.... :p
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Katana/Wakizashi dual wield. But that's just me! :D
Alternatively, a traditional Chinese sword like the one Xianghua fights with in Soul Calibur.
*Goes off to polish his display Katana/Wakizashi/Tanto set*
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*conceals dissapointment* I guess thats what a blacksmith gets for paying attention to a discussion about swords on a gamers forum. Noone appreciates true quality swords :(
Now, instead of being intolerably rude and taking a swipe at everone I'll just tell you where to go if you're interested. If you really like swords and want to educate yourselves about the real article, and why there's such a big difference, visit http://forums.swordforum.com and start reading.
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If I had cash I would get THIS!
http://www.weaponmasters.com/?ID=WEAPONS&SORT=PRICE_DN&ITEM=WM-1739
Though I'm happy with Narsil for now.
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Actually I have only recently learnt that most katana would be useless against armor.
The reason is not that they would break or shatter.
The truth lies in the nature of the edge - it was a cutting edge sharpened like a razor. Excelent for cutting through flesh and soft material - even the light armor of samurais.
Since we don't use any true plate armor nowadays, the katana or swords of similar fashion could be the choice of sword.
The problem with a katana against a knight lies in the interaction between blade an armor: Even if the katana managed to pierce the armor, its edge would be probably blunted, flawing the weapon and it would get stuck.
Medieval swords weren't sharepened like that - they were blunt like a buttler's axe, and instead cutting they splinted, shattering the armor.
Knight's swordfight wasn't elegant or graceful - it was force against force where the knight did their best to open the other's full body can with their opener.
It wasn't until rapiers (light swords suited for a time where no whatsoever armor was used) came to be that the modern gracefull sword wielding came to be.
(http://www.gladiator.hu/jpg/armorum/copis_k.jpg)
My choice of close combat wepon, the Khopish or Falcata. It was the Macedon's sword and later thrak gladiators used it in the arena.
It is a shortsword, but nowadays I don't think close combat would take place where you have enough room to move a long blade.
It only has a single blade.
(http://www.gladiator.hu/jpg/armorum/sica_k.jpg)
Just like the Sica its blade is curced to ward the cutting edge allowing it to reah behing shields, or whatever the opponent tries to protect himself with.
It has a splitting edge just like medieval swords, and although a pure cutting blade may be suited better for current conditions I take no risk - even if I merly crush my opponents bones, I still win.
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I guess a good shotgun will always do the trick in the end.
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Ummm....
*re-reads topic title*
Ya, hammer the barrels flat, and grind an edge, then you may have something....
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heheh. Just joking.
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I'd be going for a gladius as well. Nice and wieldable, good for brunt force, and not to bad on the wrist. Mind, if I could pick axes as well, I'd go for a medium sized axe (one hand). Good for utility work as well. OTOH, a hayfork can be rather harmfull as well.
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Curiously enough, one of the more effective weapons employed against cavalry was the boating hook, it didn't do much damage as such, but it was great at un-horsing cavalry from range.
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Originally posted by Flaser
(http://www.gladiator.hu/jpg/armorum/copis_k.jpg)
My choice of close combat wepon, the Khopish or Falcata. It was the Macedon's sword and later thrak gladiators used it in the arena.
It is a shortsword, but nowadays I don't think close combat would take place where you have enough room to move a long blade.
It only has a single blade.
(http://www.gladiator.hu/jpg/armorum/sica_k.jpg)
Just like the Sica its blade is curced to ward the cutting edge allowing it to reah behing shields, or whatever the opponent tries to protect himself with.
It has a splitting edge just like medieval swords, and although a pure cutting blade may be suited better for current conditions I take no risk - even if I merly crush my opponents bones, I still win.
Those bear a stunning resemblance to a kukri.
(http://swordforum.com/articles/ams/kukri.jpg)
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Originally posted by mrfun
*conceals dissapointment* I guess thats what a blacksmith gets for paying attention to a discussion about swords on a gamers forum. Noone appreciates true quality swords :(
Now, instead of being intolerably rude and taking a swipe at everone I'll just tell you where to go if you're interested. If you really like swords and want to educate yourselves about the real article, and why there's such a big difference, visit http://forums.swordforum.com and start reading.
Thanks - I'll check it out. :)