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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Raptor on December 18, 2004, 08:33:13 am

Title: My turn...
Post by: Raptor on December 18, 2004, 08:33:13 am
After seeing c914's gunboat/ship/thing-bigger-than-bomber-smaller-than-cruiser-thing, I sat down and begun modelling the craft design I've had kicking around for about a year.  Somehow it's not quite working yet.

(http://img140.exs.cx/img140/6651/trogen015ai.jpg)
(http://img144.exs.cx/img144/1328/trogen028kq.jpg)
(http://img155.exs.cx/img155/7720/trogen034la.jpg)
(http://img151.exs.cx/img151/121/trogen040ps.jpg)
(http://img141.exs.cx/img141/5933/trogen052hl.jpg)
(http://img156.exs.cx/img156/4308/trogen068yh.jpg)

There will be two versions.  One a civilan light transport, with just a tail turret, and the military version, with heavier armour and shielding, plus the dorsal and ventral gun turrets:D

Can you guess the craft that inspired this?;)
Title: My turn...
Post by: WeatherOp on December 18, 2004, 09:27:20 am
Yeah, a Star Trek ship, think its the Defiaint or something like that, well don't watch Star Trak. But, it is really better looking than it.
Title: Re: My turn...
Post by: TopAce on December 18, 2004, 09:28:05 am
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Originally posted by Raptor

Can you guess the craft that inspired this?;)


Just tell me something and I will figure it out: Is it from FS?

[EDIT]Became out-of-date when posted. WeatherOp posted after I started typing the message.

[EDIT2]I guess you would like to get some feedbacl as we;;. ;) The cockpit part is the best so far. Hadn't WeatherOp revealed it to be an inspiration from a Star Trek ship, I would have said it assimilates with the YT-2000 transport from Star Wars.
Title: My turn...
Post by: Jonathan_S47 on December 18, 2004, 09:59:30 am
I keep thinking of HW2’s gunship when I look at that model.
Title: My turn...
Post by: WeatherOp on December 18, 2004, 10:04:06 am
Thats the thing that jumped out at me, was that cockpit. Looks really good.
Title: My turn...
Post by: Singh on December 18, 2004, 11:23:55 am
The bridge looks like an Indy Patcom's or a Dreadnought Class Corvette's, yet the body looks like one of a defiant. the turrets are pretty much how it would look if two fighters were docked onto a Dreadnought Corvette's hull.  Yet the tail ages are more indicative of an atmospheric design and purpose, much like the Valkyrie (or whatever that craft was in FS1).

ARGH!! A monster!!! O_O
Title: My turn...
Post by: karajorma on December 18, 2004, 11:45:36 am
I like it in general but I hate that squashed angular cockpit. Round it out a bit and I'd like the ship a lot more.
Title: My turn...
Post by: Black Wolf on December 18, 2004, 11:45:51 am
For no readily identifiable reason, I just don't find this aesthetically pleasing. Dunno why - personal quirks no doubt. I'm sure others will find much to like however.
Title: My turn...
Post by: aldo_14 on December 18, 2004, 12:02:32 pm
I'm not sure about the overall flatness, but it shows promise.
Title: My turn...
Post by: c914 on December 18, 2004, 12:11:00 pm
Aaaa now iwe have real FS defiant:nod:

BTW: Nose need more smoth work becouse it doesn't match to rest part of ship
Title: My turn...
Post by: Unknown Target on December 18, 2004, 02:21:20 pm
Looks like a cross between a Defiant and the patcom from IWar2. :) It's ok, but not very freespace ish, imho. Chunk it up some more, make it look more like a flying box than a squashed pencil.
Title: My turn...
Post by: pyro-manic on December 18, 2004, 03:05:03 pm
'Tis too flat. Give it some z-axis protruding bits, or make those fins a lot bigger and have them starting from the main hull rather than the engines.
Title: My turn...
Post by: pecenipicek on December 18, 2004, 03:23:59 pm
tis good
but...
I HATE THE DEFIANT
Title: My turn...
Post by: Jetmech Jr. on December 18, 2004, 03:26:19 pm
I could see that as maybe being some form of civilian ship in FS. But not military. I don't see that thing as having much armor, yet it has an amazingly surface area. In any serious battle, it would probably draw fire like a magnet.

That said, I like the design.
Title: My turn...
Post by: TopAce on December 18, 2004, 03:27:59 pm
Might as well be used as a transport....
Title: My turn...
Post by: TrashMan on December 18, 2004, 03:46:16 pm
Looks like a cross between the Defiant and the Millenium Falcon...
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Post by: Bobboau on December 18, 2004, 03:53:21 pm
the cockpit looks like ****,
the rest of it's great, exept maybe the tail.
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Post by: Roanoke on December 18, 2004, 04:27:32 pm
I wouldn't go that far, but it does look like a dodgy boolean chop 'n' stick. It really needs to blended in with th rest of the ship
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Post by: Grimloq on December 18, 2004, 11:07:42 pm
that looks very familiar... hmm... and not like its from ST either...
Title: My turn...
Post by: Raptor on December 19, 2004, 08:31:50 am
Quote
Originally posted by TrashMan
Looks like a cross between the Defiant and the Millenium Falcon...


Correct!:nod::yes: I was aiming for a Defiant tail and nose, with Falcon central section.

Quote
Originally posted by Jetmech Jr.
I could see that as maybe being some form of civilian ship in FS. But not military. I don't see that thing as having much armor, yet it has an amazingly surface area. In any serious battle, it would probably draw fire like a magnet.


Close.  The idea I had was that it began life as a civilian craft, something around the quieter areas during FS2, but after Chapella, the military built a gunship version for escort operations, long range patrols and anti-fighter duties.

Besides, this ship will have shields;7

The tail is incomplete really, and I'm not sure about the engines (the engines are what has been keeping this craft on the drawing board for so long.  I just can't seem to get a setup that I like!).

The nose defiently needs work, but so far I've yet to get a decent smooth form:sigh:

God, it does look bad head on!:ick:
Title: My turn...
Post by: Raptor on January 15, 2005, 08:02:16 am
:bump:
Yes I know its a mega bump, but I've only really got round to acting on peoples comments.

I've removed to old engines and the nose (AFTER making a copy!)
and have begun to remodel it.  I've got two new noses.  One is following the Defiant trend, the other is based on the Space Shuttle.

(http://img74.exs.cx/img74/564/Trogen07.jpg)
(http://img150.exs.cx/img150/6936/trogen088zi.jpg)
(http://img104.exs.cx/img104/6025/trogen095ys.jpg)
(http://img32.exs.cx/img32/6629/trogen109ri.jpg)
(http://img124.exs.cx/img124/3576/trogen115cf.jpg)

I've also begun to rethink the engines (again:sigh: ) and have had thoughts about adding wings, slightly downward slanted.
(http://img112.exs.cx/img112/6326/trogen121br.jpg)
(http://img32.exs.cx/img32/3681/trogen136qb.jpg)

Thing is, that setup makes the side docks pointless, since the wings get in the way...

Maybe bobs submodel rotn thingy could help.....

Comments please.
Title: My turn...
Post by: pyro-manic on January 15, 2005, 05:16:55 pm
I think the wings look good. You could angle the dockpoints upwards slightly (so they're more perpendicular to the wings), or turn them into turrets or something.

With regard to the cockpit - I think the biggest problem is the big gap around it. It deosn't look right. You need to have a smooth transition rather than a hole in the hull with the cockpit sticking out. I prefer the angular one, but it needs to be as wide as the smooth one, and joined properly as I said.

Good stuff - please finish it. :):yes: