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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: NGTM-1R on December 21, 2004, 12:58:37 am

Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: NGTM-1R on December 21, 2004, 12:58:37 am
I've heard it mentioned repeatedly, mostly with the addition of "Kazan's" but a search failed to turn up an links or attachments...does it still exist?
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: TrashMan on December 22, 2004, 04:18:18 pm
Yeah...I want to know too..

and I allso want to know a few more things:

1. Where did those kick-ass backgrounds dissapear to? I can't download them. Fileplanet sezthat the file could not be found..

2. How to make an icon part invisible? So far I thought that everything completely green is considered invisible, but seems I was wrong..
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: Lynx on December 22, 2004, 04:20:49 pm
I doubt it'd be really useful, since a random generated background will never reach the beatuy of a player setup background since it'll mostly clutter the screen with nebulas without any pattern, plus it can't orient planets correctly to the sun....etc..
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: TrashMan on December 22, 2004, 06:49:58 pm
Damn....

and what about 1&2?
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: NGTM-1R on December 22, 2004, 07:33:35 pm
I don't really care if it's not that useful...I'll tinker with the background myself anyways, I just can't work from a blank canvas.
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: TrashMan on December 23, 2004, 05:43:59 am
Ugh..where can I get those super backgrounds I've been seing on many screenshots?
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: Bobboau on December 23, 2004, 05:47:06 am
don't you hate it when you ask for something and someone says "you don't want that"
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: TopAce on December 23, 2004, 05:47:01 am
Search for Kazan's tools with Google. It is called Mission Background Utility.
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: Singh on December 23, 2004, 05:47:43 am
Quote
Originally posted by TrashMan
Ugh..where can I get those super backgrounds I've been seing on many screenshots?


By making 'em yourself.....or getting someone to do it for ya :P
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: TopAce on December 23, 2004, 05:56:08 am
You can use this tool well, you only have to modify some included txts, including what backgrounds should the programme randomize between,  how many nebula you want. You can also specify what maximal and minimal scaling limits you want.
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: TrashMan on December 23, 2004, 06:18:22 am
No, no, no!

Not the tool, I'm looking for those really cool BACKGROUND NEBULAS.... Lightspeeds stuff...

Say, is that included in the latest VP?
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: TopAce on December 23, 2004, 07:12:28 am
Maybe try Hades Combine?
http://www.hades-combine.com

Or even better, there is a link for Miliways in Lightspeed's signature. Click on it and you will get there.
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: aldo_14 on December 23, 2004, 07:36:39 am
Quote
Originally posted by Lynx
I doubt it'd be really useful, since a random generated background will never reach the beatuy of a player setup background since it'll mostly clutter the screen with nebulas without any pattern, plus it can't orient planets correctly to the sun....etc..


It's useful if you want a very quick background for screenshots, that's about it IMO (i.e. if you don't want a plain black background)
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on December 23, 2004, 07:37:23 am
I have MBU and will be happy to share it.  actually i like it, all it does is my nebulas, i still p;lace the planets and the stars.  it makes it good, because i use the same nebula for each system, but then change the planets by mission in each system.  i am actually quite happy with the background generator.

If anyone wants it, PM me and we can work out the details.
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: pecenipicek on December 23, 2004, 09:01:15 am
*cough*chokes on a clutter ball*cough*
seriously though... its much prettier to create your own backgrounds... if you know how to do it that is...
only scaling currently bugs me...
i wonder whatever happened to that "Vlanetar" mod...
i got some file and tables on my old pc from it... so if someone is interested...
Vlanetar is not my work. I repeat : Vlanetar is *NOT* my work...
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on December 23, 2004, 01:36:50 pm
Creating backgrounds is easy.  Scaling is simple stuff.  just make sure if you scale big you divide it.   It's like with anything in the background.  If you use mbu and don't like the result, you can always modify it.  The only thing is..."pretty" is opinion, not fact, and something should never discounted due to opinion.  In the end, when we build a mission, we make it pretty, to our standards, and everyone playing it gets to deal with what we think is pretty.  Case in point.....i love this shot....and it is "in mission"  i am sure that aldo remembers it.

It is vanilla fs2, from "the time before SCP".  It is also low res, on a low end machine.  But that is an easy example of what you can do with scaling and orientation.
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: TopAce on December 23, 2004, 04:00:30 pm
That reminds me of a PXO mission, where you had to investigate the Ross 128 system. You started approaching towards a Faustus, which later blew up and tons of Shivans started to jump in. You had a Hecate as reinforcements. At the end of the mission you faced a Sathanas.
It had an extensively bad background set, it looked like very similiar to what you have posted.
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on December 23, 2004, 07:38:27 pm
I like that bad background.....lol
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: NGTM-1R on December 23, 2004, 08:06:53 pm
Google search turns up only Kazan's SourceForge page...and no downloadables.
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: Spicious on December 23, 2004, 09:35:39 pm
You can find it here (http://hades-combine.com/v-web/portal/73/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownloaddetails&lid=108&ttitle=Alliance_Productions_Freespace_2_Kit)  at Hades Combine (http://www.hades-combine.com)
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: aldo_14 on December 24, 2004, 02:56:40 am
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Originally posted by ShadowWolf_IH
Creating backgrounds is easy.  Scaling is simple stuff.  just make sure if you scale big you divide it.   It's like with anything in the background.  If you use mbu and don't like the result, you can always modify it.  The only thing is..."pretty" is opinion, not fact, and something should never discounted due to opinion.  In the end, when we build a mission, we make it pretty, to our standards, and everyone playing it gets to deal with what we think is pretty.  Case in point.....i love this shot....and it is "in mission"  i am sure that aldo remembers it.

It is vanilla fs2, from "the time before SCP".  It is also low res, on a low end machine.  But that is an easy example of what you can do with scaling and orientation.


You forgot the after shot;
(http://www.3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/casofwar/screens/finsc12.jpg)
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: TopAce on December 24, 2004, 03:31:57 am
Let me guess: That is from Casualties of War....
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: WMCoolmon on December 24, 2004, 03:47:26 am
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Originally posted by TrashMan
No, no, no!

Not the tool, I'm looking for those really cool BACKGROUND NEBULAS.... Lightspeeds stuff...

Say, is that included in the latest VP?


The latest mediaVP has his version of the retail nebulas, yes.

There was an mv_nebulae some time back, but it was removed because none of the nebulas were part of retail FS2. That has Lightspeed's pre-retail nebulas, if he doesn't still have them up for download somewhere.
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on December 24, 2004, 03:49:06 am
yeah, both are.
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: TrashMan on December 24, 2004, 07:04:38 am
The only thing I found was

Now I know I've see screenshots with nebulas that looked like the art from jdictanlge and some others.  Those were no normal nebulas - that was simply awensome!

I have to find a screenie smehwere!
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: TrashMan on December 25, 2004, 08:41:45 am
(http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v36/SadisticSid/raynor.jpg)

Now those nebulas are what i'm looking for!
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: Singh on December 25, 2004, 08:43:54 am
*is half tempted to post a pic from what LS has him working on.

Errr........or maybe not :nervous:

*runs from LS
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: c914 on December 25, 2004, 08:58:46 am
TrashMan did you serch in Milliways (http://www.penguinbomb.com/lightspeed/)
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: TrashMan on December 25, 2004, 05:10:44 pm
There's a Retail Nebula Patch file....Is that it?
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: Singh on December 25, 2004, 08:45:25 pm
no, no. Its all the new background stuff from LS. Look for background nebula set under the WIP section.
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: TrashMan on December 26, 2004, 10:16:48 am
Under work in progress there is only the shinemaps and glowmaps..nothing else.

I've searched Millways from top to bottom, but haven't found those nebula backgrounds...
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: c914 on December 27, 2004, 06:12:53 am
if you still looking for them here are set 3 (http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/sbre/stl/FS2_Nebula_Backgrounds3.zip) and 6 (http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/sbre/stl/FS2_Nebula_Backgrounds6.zip)
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: TrashMan on December 27, 2004, 04:54:29 pm
Thanx man!
Title: Random Background Generator?
Post by: c914 on December 28, 2004, 02:39:26 am
np:D