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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Botswana on April 04, 2001, 10:01:00 am
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Ok, how long has this site existed?
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What's your Omega Psi (//"http://www.omega-psi.com")?
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About 3 months, Bots (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Hell, we even p1mped on The Bar ("http://www.th3b4r.com")! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
(Thunder... you did p1mp on the bar, right? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif))
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Damn, must have been during one of my busy periods at work.
Site looks good. I really haven't been visiting Freespace sites.
Have you guys thought about expanding to X-Wing Alliance as well, and grabbing the tons of models out there for it? It's really been modded like crazy.
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What's your Omega Psi ("http://www.omega-psi.com")?
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Why is it that everyone who pops around here seems to know what we have planned for our next project. Not implying anything of course. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Btw Bots, check out your thread ("http://www.th3b4r.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=000265") back at The Bar. Nice job on that site (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by Botswana:
Have you guys thought about expanding to X-Wing Alliance as well, and grabbing the tons of models out there for it? It's really been modded like crazy.
To the HLP Staff: Told you it wasa good idea guys (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Welcome dude! I'm sorry I haven't been at the bar since the server problems ages ago, but I haven't had time to do school stuff and HLP and the Bar, so the Bar had to go... maybe in the summer eh? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Anyway, welcome - hope you like it all, enjoy yourself (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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So... X-Wing Alliance, eh? Might have to finally buy that game... but after Black&White it'll probably take another 4 months to gather enough money (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Naah... it'll be out on bargain somewhere.
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Hmmm...Does XWA have a Freespace mod? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
XWA rocks if for no other reason than the virtual cockpit.
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Sushi- the OTHER white meat!
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Great minds think alike....
Thanks for the kudos. I'll try to get a link thrown up tonight. Have some news commentaries about some things I read about today. Too bad I can't update the site from work.
X-Wing Alliance just seemed like such a natural choice, especially after seeing someone made the Battlestar Galactica and imported Wing Commander models. Not to mention the outrageously HUGE battles you can have.
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Originally posted by Botswana:
X-Wing Alliance just seemed like such a natural choice, especially after seeing someone made the Battlestar Galactica and imported Wing Commander models. Not to mention the outrageously HUGE battles you can have.
Thats why i want to make a FS2 mod for it...
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Uhoh...don't make me write a long post comparing XWA and FS. It would get messy... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Alright, howabout a short version.
XWA-
Good:Virtual cockpit, big battles, better flight model(turn rate is proportional to speed) and personalized story.
Bad:Lack of weapon/loadout options, too few ships, more bugs, personalized story(I like the impersonal better. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif))
FS2
Good: Beautiful graphics, best sound, rock-solid game, better capships, storyline is very involved, lots of ships and weapons to fight with and against.
Bad: Ships fly too slow(See my sig (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)), can't have as big of battles, very basic cockpit, simplistic flight model.
Alright...that satisfies my review/critic urge.
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Sushi- the OTHER white meat!
Accelerate your game-Velocity Mod ("http://sushicw.homestead.com/files/freespace/index.htm")
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I see your point, theres lots going for both games, but the XWA engine can have larger battles and more detailed ships. I'd like to make use of that if possible to make more detailed versions of the FS ships...
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There's actually a very simple mod that allows you to fly every ship in the game, even cap ships! (Not that flying a Star Destroyer is much fun)
Too few ships?
In the instant action and multi-player modes you can fly the following:
X-Wing
Y-Wing
B-Wing
A-Wing
Z-95 Headhunter
TIE Fighter
TIE Bomber
TIE Interceptor
TIE Advanced
TIE Defender
Assault Gunboat
Missile Boat
YT-1300
YT-2000
Millienium Falcon
Overall, I like Freespace 2 better, just wanted to point that out. X-Wing Alliance can do a little more performance-wise though because the graphics are simpler and allow for more actual objects on screen. It's a trade-off.
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well, put the goods of both games into one engine, and let's make FS3 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
I'll have to buy Xwing Aliance too anyway.
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venom2506
Member of the Robotech mod for FS2 ("http://robotechlan.com/freespace2/")
and of Hidden Terror, the Shivan campaign ("http://shivancampaign.homestead.com/index.html")
and My own page ("http://www.geocities.com/venom250681/Venom2506.html")
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Originally posted by Jabu:
So... X-Wing Alliance, eh? Might have to finally buy that game... but after Black&White it'll probably take another 4 months to gather enough money (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Naah... it'll be out on bargain somewhere.
You have Black & White?! I have it too. Hehehe (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) Now I know who to turn to for tips on how to play (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by venom2506:
I'll have to buy Xwing Aliance too anyway.
What too you so long to buy it?! It was out last year!!!
My favourite fighter iin the whole game is still the X-Wing. Faster than the piggish Y-Wing and more powerful in terms of firepower than the quick and swift A-Wing which has only two laser cannons.
X-Wing:
4 Laser Cannons
2 Proton Torpedo Launchers. 4 torpedos each.
I love it!! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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NeoHunter< [b][email protected][/b] >
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Originally posted by NeoHunter:
My favourite fighter iin the whole game is still the X-Wing. Faster than the piggish Y-Wing and more powerful in terms of firepower than the quick and swift A-Wing which has only two laser cannons.
What about the B-Wing? Not as sluggish as the Y-Wing and with lots more in terms of weapons...
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True but it doesn't have the speed of an X-Wing.
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NeoHunter< [b][email protected][/b] >
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Y-WING RULES!!!
Sorry, just my little unimportant opinion (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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I'm partial to the TIE Interceptor myself.
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Originally posted by NeoHunter:
You have Black & White?! I have it too. Hehehe (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) Now I know who to turn to for tips on how to play (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Not yet. Still a few days before it's released here... and I still haven't got enough money. My little brother owes me about $15 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Oh yeah... B-Wing rox j00!
[This message has been edited by Jabu (edited 04-05-2001).]
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TIE Defender 0wns _|00 all! (but really annoys online players as it's so totally un-balanced)...
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The game has a Defender?! Damn... I hope it's only used in a few situations...
No E-Wing, V-Wing or some other new NR fighter? Pretty unbalanced (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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The defender only pops up once or twice at the end of a mission, to make sure that you really jump out when you are supposed to. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Anyway, I eat those T/Ds for lunch in my Y-Wing, ... mostly, ... often, ... sometimes, ... OKAY, I'M A CRAPPY PILOT!!!
Good that XWA ai is even worse.
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Don't know why they went beyond the TIE Advanced, the T/D just doesn't look that threatening with the third solar panel.
Interesting, the TIE Interceptor is manueverable enough to take on the TIE Defender. No ion cannons or shields, but if I can keep it off my tail I can win the fight, even when the AI is turned up pretty high.
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What's your Omega Psi ("http://www.omega-psi.com")?
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XWA AI is crap. I made a mission where you have to fight one on one in a Y-Wing against a Jedi class T/D. I blast it to hell regulary.
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Originally posted by Sushi:
Uhoh...don't make me write a long post comparing XWA and FS. It would get messy... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Alright, howabout a short version.
XWA-
Good:Virtual cockpit, big battles, better flight model(turn rate is proportional to speed) and personalized story.
Bad:Lack of weapon/loadout options, too few ships, more bugs, personalized story(I like the impersonal better. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif))
Well what all ships do you want? Personally I don't care much for the Star Wars games that toss in ships noone's ever heard of before,..being the concept of the game is set in all the movies.
And as far as weapons load outs, remember the Star Wars universe has what,..2 primaries,..A lasers. B Ions. And you're able to select different secondaries.
Still my favorite fighter was
A: normal game X Wing
B: mod game Naboo (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Used to be funny when me and DA set up a game saying Naboo vs Trade Fed Driods and half the gaming community showed up lol
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Tie defender rocks, I was just crazy when it showed up in Tie Fighter (damn what a old game). But I take more pleasure to flight the T interceptor or the A-wing (just like the walkyrie is my favourite FS ship to fly with- who says I'm a fool? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) )
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venom2506
Member of the Robotech mod for FS2 ("http://robotechlan.com/freespace2/")
and of Hidden Terror, the Shivan campaign ("http://shivancampaign.homestead.com/index.html")
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Well what all ships do you want? Personally I don't care much for the Star Wars games that toss in ships noone's ever heard of before,..being the concept of the game is set in all the movies.
I'm not saying XWA should have more ships...I agree that it would hurt the immersion because it is based on a movie series. However, more ships IS more fun, so there is a trade-off that XWA does make. It has to.
I guess I'm criticizing the universe more than the game...it isn't as designed for space combat as FS. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) Don't get me wrong, XWA is an awesome game, but for different reasons. I just wish it were more possible to combine the best traits of both without creating a whole new game...gimme some source code! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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Oh yeah... favorite Star Wars fighter is the AWing. Light and fast, baby! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Accelerate your game-Velocity Mod ("http://sushicw.homestead.com/files/freespace/index.htm")
[This message has been edited by Sushi (edited 04-05-2001).]
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Originally posted by Sushi:
the AWing. Light and fast, baby! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Definitely light...
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In my opinion, the A-Wing is crap. Almost no shields, paper-thin hull, low primary armament. Speed is useless cause dogfight speed is determined by the slowest, not the fastest ship, and the maneuvrability is wonderful, in theory, but in reality the TIE Bomber is a better dogfighter because it has a better speed/ maximum maneuvrability ratio.
It is a useable interceptor cause of it's high missile armament, but even there the T/I is better with it's four lasers.
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You're wrong there. The TIE Bomber is worst than the Y-Wing because it doesn't have shields. 2 quad bursts from an X-Wing and its toast.
Besides, X-Wing is the choice of fighter for Rogue Squadron. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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You can outmaneuver EVERY ship in XWA with a TIE Bomber. That's a mathematical FACT. It has the smallest turn radius of all XWA ships. Turn radius is determined by maneuvrability and speed, the faster a ship is, the higher is it's turn radius and the higher the maneuvrability, the lower the turn radius. The TIE Bomber has the best speed/ maneuvrability ratio.