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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The FRED Workshop => Topic started by: supernova_989 on December 22, 2004, 06:26:37 pm

Title: a little FRED help
Post by: supernova_989 on December 22, 2004, 06:26:37 pm
I want a message sent after another one was sent. how do you do that? any help would be good:mad2:
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Hippo on December 22, 2004, 06:35:21 pm
send-message-list with a time in milliseconds, or chained events witha chain delay in seconds...

:welcome:
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: supernova_989 on December 22, 2004, 06:44:49 pm
I cant find send message list.... heres what it's like

Event
---- has-arrived delay
----------0
----------Alpha
------do nothing
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Hippo on December 22, 2004, 06:48:35 pm
well, for a has arrived delay to work, it has to be at least 1 second later...

Then in the change operator, look up 'send message list'... you should find it there somewhere... to get to it, right click 'do-nothing', go to replace operator, go to change, go to send-message-list ...
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: karajorma on December 22, 2004, 06:53:49 pm
Go to help in FRED and have a look at the FRED help. Do the walkthrough there. It will help you so much you'd be surprised.

If you don't have any FRED help cause you've got the HotU version or something similar then download this (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/freespace/Downloads/freddocs.rar) and stick it in your freespace2\data\fredddocs folder.

What you're actually looking for is the send-message-list SEXP. Don't let my helping you on this question stop you from doing the walkthrough. Almost every good FREDder who started on FRED2 has done it, myself included.
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on December 24, 2004, 01:57:23 pm
i did the walkthrough on fs1.  long before i got fs2, so when i got fs2, i pretty much knew what fred was about.
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Roanoke on December 24, 2004, 02:24:37 pm
I've alwasys found send-message-list to be really unreliable. I prefer chained/linked events.
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Hippo on December 24, 2004, 02:33:23 pm
Same here (for both Shadowwolf's and Roanoke's posts :p )
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: karajorma on December 24, 2004, 04:40:16 pm
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Originally posted by ShadowWolf_IH
i did the walkthrough on fs1.  long before i got fs2, so when i got fs2, i pretty much knew what fred was about.


That's why I said people who started on FRED2 :D
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on December 24, 2004, 05:45:06 pm
but my point was....i did the walk through...just the one in fs1.
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Goober5000 on December 24, 2004, 05:50:12 pm
I've never done any FRED walkthroughs... :nervous:

I just opened it up and started FREDding.  I picked it up pretty quickly; I thought it was incredibly intuitive.  The only thing I had to look up was how to place ships (ctrl+click).
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on December 24, 2004, 07:14:54 pm
nobody likes you goober:p
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Goober5000 on December 24, 2004, 07:47:34 pm
I thought nobody liked Blaise Russel.  Ask him if he's ever done any walkthroughs. :p
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on December 24, 2004, 08:55:30 pm
nobody likes blaise..we all just fear him.
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Cobra on December 25, 2004, 12:17:21 am
i think the reason no one likes goober is due to the fact that he takes life waaaaay to seriously. blaise russel ain't so bad. check out all the cool campaigns he made! S:AH, homesick, etc.

[EDIT] when i first discovered what FRED was, (i found it in the back of my dad's manual, the one i have is actually copied from the original) i copied the ships before i discovered ctrl+click. i was a total n00b at FREDing, now i'm a sort of 5% n00b at FREDing.
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on December 25, 2004, 12:19:46 am
Go away noob, the big boys are playing.
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Cobra on December 25, 2004, 12:21:25 am
oh shut up. :lol: i haven't FREDed much anyway. i just make test missions for mods i make. that means basically ships and nothing else unless i feel creative and put a few twists and turns in the mission.
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on December 25, 2004, 12:26:29 am
why don't you go to the fred academy and learn how to fred?  I am actually being serious.  You are a mod leader.  It is a very good thing to be able to speak the language of your fredders.  it is also a very good thing to know the difference between the limitations of your fredders and those of fred itself.  Right now your fredder is new, and i'm not slighting him at all, but he is new to fred.  He's doing a good job, learning alot, it would help if you knew what can and can't be done by fred.  And by him.  just my advice.
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Blaise Russel on December 25, 2004, 02:45:36 am
Quote
Originally posted by Goober5000
I thought nobody liked Blaise Russel


:(
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: karajorma on December 25, 2004, 04:22:39 am
I would like you Blaise but you're making me look bad. Another f**king campaign and I've still released nothing! ;)

Dammit. I'm going to have to do some serious prioritisation so I can shunt SoR up a few places.
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Blaise Russel on December 25, 2004, 06:34:21 am
:( :( :(



:)
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Primus on December 25, 2004, 06:44:42 am
Crybaby ;) ...I'm just too ****ing lazy to read any tutorials.. Or manuals.. :lol:
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Gloriano on December 25, 2004, 02:01:17 pm
I like blaise russel atleast his campaign's are finished

runs*
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Cobra on December 27, 2004, 11:18:42 pm
shadowwolf_IH: i actually used to be really good at FREDing but i got tired of it. :nervous:

Primus: if you weren't kidding, the tutorial isn't all that hard. i actually made the mission that was described. don't have it anymore though, or i would give it to you.

HIG's right. Blaise Russel actually gets his campaigns finished while everyone else scraps theirs. Don't hate us, BR! ;)
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on December 27, 2004, 11:38:03 pm
You should go anyway, I am going to.  You never know what these guys can teach you, or me for that matter.  As soon I am done with the actual fredding for MT I plan to take some classes and get better at what i do.
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: pecenipicek on December 28, 2004, 02:27:25 am
oh. the. drama?
seriously... i never truly read the walkthrough :D
i only searched for keys for moving the camera and placing ships :D
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Cobra on December 28, 2004, 12:42:15 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: god, pece, no wonder you're an Uber-troll.
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: pecenipicek on December 28, 2004, 01:01:51 pm
look who's talking...
the über-n00b...
we are the bane of HLP :D:
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Nuclear1 on December 28, 2004, 02:32:27 pm
Yes, you quite are.

And HIG:

Campaigns[/i]. My God, man, how many times must we... eh, never mind. ;)
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Gloriano on December 28, 2004, 02:50:57 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ShadowWolf_IH
You should go anyway, I am going to.  You never know what these guys can teach you, or me for that matter.  As soon I am done with the actual fredding for MT I plan to take some classes and get better at what i do.


As far I can see you learn from your mistakes and that teach you become better fredder.:)


Quote
Campaigns. My God, man, how many times must we... eh, never mind.


:o :p
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Cobra on December 29, 2004, 12:34:18 pm
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Originally posted by pecenipicek
look who's talking...
the über-n00b...
we are the bane of HLP :D:


:lol: the annoying banes. i'm an uber-n00b since i can't express myself well, and you're an uber-troll since you act stupid, like me :D
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Hippo on December 29, 2004, 12:36:43 pm
Consider yourselves both, morons.
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Cobra on December 29, 2004, 12:39:13 pm
We're morons and we don't give a damn! (even if we make asses of ourselves on the internet :D )
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Nuclear1 on December 29, 2004, 01:15:59 pm
*sigh*

Hippo, don't bother. Some people just never learn.
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Hippo on December 29, 2004, 02:55:25 pm
true...
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Cobra on December 29, 2004, 04:37:50 pm
hey, i've been called just about anything you can think of in this lifetime. i can live with being called a moron; i just don't care anymore.
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: karajorma on December 30, 2004, 03:19:14 am
Quote
Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano
As far I can see you learn from your mistakes and that teach you become better fredder.:)  


I don't think Shadow Wolf needs the FA's help much but for the newer FREDder it's basically a helping hand to point out mistakes they wouldn't otherwise notice and give them advice on what they need to learn to get the mission to work.  :)
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: pecenipicek on December 30, 2004, 11:39:03 am
me too ...
im usually like that to my profesors :D
and im passing through with an equal to B+ :D
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Cobra on December 30, 2004, 07:57:04 pm
you're in college? as in you're 18-19?
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: pecenipicek on December 31, 2004, 06:32:05 pm
nah... high school... grades in croatia are a bit different than in US of f***in A...
1=worst
2=fair
3=good
4=very good
5=excellent
so
i regularily pass with 4...
and im a troll cause i called some "senior" members here out...
no callin names this time :D
just to say that i know how to fred much better than some "senior" members.................................
meh... i hate fred 3.5.5.....
i wanna 3.6
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Cobra on December 31, 2004, 07:42:10 pm
in FRED 3.5.5, you can convert FS1 missions. and if you're a good FREDer, i can probably get 2 missions out of you at the same time. :D über-troll! :lol:
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Kie99 on December 31, 2004, 07:44:03 pm
WHen I first started Fredding The Truth Revealed ([glow=green]Might[/i][/color][/glow] release a demo soon) the mission were god-awful and BoE. I only took about 20 Minutes FREDding each one.  Thank God something went wrong when I was transferring my files onto my new PC.  I had to start over and did completely different missions.  (You may have noticed I use a hell of a lot of formatting) If you don't like it tough :p
unless you're an admin :nervous:
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Cobra on December 31, 2004, 08:04:38 pm
yes, i am an admin. and if i like 'em, i'll post 'em on HC. Where are they, by the way?

:v: me like voltion. :v: if only i could get the descents 1-3.

spamspamspam. spam: gooooood.
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: pecenipicek on December 31, 2004, 08:23:45 pm
shut up Über-n00b... you are starting to annoy me...
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Ulala on December 31, 2004, 08:36:37 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Cobra
We're morons and we don't give a damn! (even if we make asses of ourselves on the internet :D )


Hey, it got you labels under your username after all.
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Unknown Target on December 31, 2004, 08:43:58 pm
Quote
Originally posted by pecenipicek
shut up Über-n00b... you are starting to annoy me...



*cough*

Do I really need to show you all the irony?
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Cobra on December 31, 2004, 08:45:15 pm
Quote
Originally posted by pecenipicek
shut up Über-n00b... you are starting to annoy me...


:lol:

OK, this thread has outlived usefullness, someone close it...
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Falcon on December 31, 2004, 10:58:42 pm
You know if I was in the administration I would have banned you from this forum ages ago. Thats how annoying both of you are. :mad2:

You both want to do some good for HLP? Heres an idea go to the BattleCruiser forums and spam their boards.
Title: a little FRED help
Post by: Goober5000 on January 01, 2005, 12:24:14 am
Cobra and pecenipicek: Stop it, both of you.  You're both extremely close to getting banned.  All I need is an excuse... for your own sake, don't give me one.