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Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Kazan on April 07, 2001, 06:59:00 pm
5 minutes extracting running my fix of pof2cob then resizing and setting up a red inifinite light..

   (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/babylon/KazanScreens/Shivans.jpg)  


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here is another one
  (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/babylon/KazanScreens/Terran.jpg)  

the light used for the starburst washed the textures a bit
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Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Shrike on April 07, 2001, 07:02:00 pm
If so, that's much easier than it was before.  Blasted pof->cob->3DS conversion screws up textures like a son of a *****.
Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Kazan on April 07, 2001, 07:05:00 pm
it's not my code  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) mwahaha i only fixed some minor logic glitches

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Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Setekh on April 07, 2001, 07:10:00 pm
I've only been playing around with it a few minutes, and it's a godsend. Excellent job.
Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Nico on April 07, 2001, 07:11:00 pm
and how can I do that too? What must I get?

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Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Kazan on April 07, 2001, 07:12:00 pm
thanks.. i just fixed Krueger's code [and spent an hour uncoupling it from his GUI]


ven look at the news about POF2COB at HLP main

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Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Nico on April 07, 2001, 07:26:00 pm
? my ravana is all blue  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)

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Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Shrike on April 07, 2001, 07:27:00 pm
did you extract the textures?
Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Nico on April 07, 2001, 07:30:00 pm
yes, and I even converted them to bmp, but there is only one that shows...
Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Kazan on April 07, 2001, 07:40:00 pm
what version of TS?

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Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Itsara on April 07, 2001, 07:49:00 pm
So what programs did you use ( or rather what programs do you need to do that)?
Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Kazan on April 07, 2001, 07:51:00 pm
my version of pof2cob
PaintShop Pro [to convert the textures]
TrueSpace [preferably 4.X]

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Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: NeoHunter on April 07, 2001, 08:18:00 pm
Nice!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

I think I need a tutorial on how to apply skins on a model in 3D Studio Max if the skins are on one siingle bitmap

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Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Setekh on April 07, 2001, 11:13:00 pm
For FS2 capships, they would never be on one bmp. Having only one bmp stops it from having good tiling, making the entire texture - much, much too large.
Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Nico on April 08, 2001, 05:40:00 am
I got truespace 1  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)
PLease!!!!! make a pof23ds, or make this 3DS library!!!! pleaaaaaaase!! PLLL...mmh? Ok, no more Bosh beer today...

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Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Admiral LSD on April 08, 2001, 08:03:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Kazan:
thanks.. i just fixed Krueger's code [and spent an hour uncoupling it from his GUI]

To what effect? (no flamage please)

 
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? my ravana is all blue   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)

I had this problem too and I use TS1 as well could you at least try to fix this? Your version didn't even make an attempt to convert the textures unlike its GUI counterpart.

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Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Starwing on April 08, 2001, 08:23:00 am
I think this all blue thing is because of the way TS1 handles textures. It doesn't know UV per face, so it is not able to load the textures correctly. If the problem appears with TS4 you could try to load the model into 3D Exploration and resave it under a different name.
Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Kazan on April 08, 2001, 08:28:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Admiral LSD:
To what effect? (no flamage please)

***   Axis correctly translated
(truespace->FS2)
(x -> z)
(y -> -x)
(z -> y)

  This also fixed the mirrored ships problem

*** Textures work now, he had them in overlay mode which is why they would disapear in a rneder

*** Had to uncouple the GUI from his conversion, a bit of a pain

 
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Originally posted by Admiral LSD:
Your version didn't even make an attempt to convert the textures unlike its GUI counterpart.

2 reasons:
1)any good paint program can do the conversion
2) I don't have the include libs that Krueger was using for the gfx

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Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Nico on April 08, 2001, 08:29:00 am
Truespace can handle face map, it just can't do it itself (I know, I'm importing 3ds files in TS1, and it works perfectly). And finally, I get my Ravana to have one (!) map to work... Ha never mind, this prog just doesn't like me  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif). If someone could send me a 3ds version of the demon, of the dragon, the manticore and the scorpion , that should be nice  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) . You wouldn't need to put the maps in the zip file, just the converted model with the map coordinates  and id's applied.
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Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Admiral LSD on April 08, 2001, 08:50:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Kazan:
 2 reasons:
1)any good paint program can do the conversion
2) I don't have the include libs that Krueger was using for the gfx

True, but it makes it a helluva lot more convenient if the translator did it for you, but if you didn't have the libs thats fair enough.


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Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Kazan on April 08, 2001, 09:32:00 am
look at them now  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Jabu on April 08, 2001, 10:48:00 am
I finally managed to convert the Hades properly  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

And for converting textures, there's a program called IrfanView that is good at batch conversion. It's located (strangely enough) at http://www.irfanview.com/ ("http://www.irfanview.com/")   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Nico on April 08, 2001, 11:56:00 am
acdsea does that very well too. That's not the pb...

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Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: NeoHunter on April 09, 2001, 08:01:00 am
Shivans have a red sun.

Terrans have a blue sun.

So, I assume Vasudans have a green sun? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Kazan on April 09, 2001, 06:24:00 pm
I was thinking yellow

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Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Setekh on April 10, 2001, 03:48:00 am
That's what it was in my Power Rangers series.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: Look what is very easy to do now
Post by: Kazan on April 10, 2001, 06:06:00 am
that's prolly were i got the idea  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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