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Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Unknown Target on December 25, 2004, 06:04:29 am
I just got Half Life 2, and all that came with it is a small keycard and the five CDs. Only problem? I don't have a CD key. Where is it?
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Tiara on December 25, 2004, 06:06:09 am
They don't want you to have it. Don't you get it yet? :p And anyone who does get one, gets kicked off anyway for some bull**** reason.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Unknown Target on December 25, 2004, 06:09:48 am
Phew, thank God I found it. It was on the back of the flimsy 20 cent CD case covers :rolleyes:
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Jetmech Jr. on December 25, 2004, 06:45:01 am
Aren't they always...?
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Fineus on December 25, 2004, 07:00:36 am
They're usually printed on a sticker that's stuck somewhere on the box, or on the back of the manual that usually comes with the game.

Of course, my theory is thus: Half Life 2 is an odd creature that - while a good game - isn't what the majority wanted. Therefore they've made it so hard to actually get to play the game that only the dedicated fanboys will put in the time and effort to being allowed to.

The end result - the only people able to say they've played the game are the hardcore fans - the ones who won't say they didn't enjoy the game. Half Life 2 gets great coverage and so more and more people buy it - but the chances are that these new comers won't put forth the effort required to play the game.

Valve gets its fat cash, HL2 its coverage. The world continous to turn and nobody is any the wiser.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Tiara on December 25, 2004, 07:39:26 am
Actually, I got the game, actually got it to play and then got a refund for such a crap-ass game.

It looks good and all, but the game itself sucks IMO. But thats just me.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Unknown Target on December 25, 2004, 07:42:49 am
The loading times are a pain in the ass, every five minutes you enter a new area and have to wait a minute or two to load it.

Can someone please tell me if it's possible to play this game without running steam (which hogs resources), and to play it without a CD?
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Grug on December 25, 2004, 08:15:07 am
Missed all the anti steam threads huh?
The answer is simply no. Unless you use a crack of some sort.

I'd agree with Tiara though, I didn't enjoy it all that much. After I finished it, I havn't run Steam again.
And bewarned UT, don't play the game expecting a decent storyline.

The game's more like several hours of pointless eye candy...
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: vyper on December 25, 2004, 08:16:59 am
I liked the game, I just wished it had lasted a bit longer. I was genuinely disappointed the moment I heard that voice saying "Time, Mr. Freeman?"
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Turnsky on December 25, 2004, 08:17:12 am
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
Phew, thank God I found it. It was on the back of the flimsy 20 cent CD case covers :rolleyes:


that really irked me, you'd think they would be good enough to put it in a big DVD case or something.. :blah:
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Unknown Target on December 25, 2004, 09:39:30 am
Yea, I was actually expecting something of quality, not the little CD flaps...the thing that just irks me the most about this game is the load times. Doom 3 ran just fine on my machine, but Half Life 2....eh, it's choppy, takes forever to load up the sound files, and the mid-mission load times (like in the fanboat ride) really kills all the action...I've read more while playing this game than I have in the past week, while I read waitng for the load to finish.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Tiara on December 25, 2004, 09:52:36 am
What can I say... Get a refund. :p

Seriously, for that money there are a ton of other games that surpass HL2 in game-quality by friggin' miles. Hell, the patience game that comes with windows is more entertaining. :doubt:
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Martinus on December 25, 2004, 10:04:51 am
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Originally posted by Tiara
Actually, I got the game, actually got it to play and then got a refund for such a crap-ass game.

It looks good and all, but the game itself sucks IMO. But thats just me.

[color=66ff00]No dear axe lady, it is not just you.
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Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Turnsky on December 25, 2004, 10:13:58 am
finished HL2 twice now.. and ....bleh.. it's a good engine and all, the story happens around you, but you don't have much of a bloody clue as to what's going on, what's happened, and so on.. to many questions left unanswered, hell, it didn't even answer any questions from HL1.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Gloriano on December 25, 2004, 10:21:41 am
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but you don't have much of a bloody clue as to what's going on


True, I tried find some Story in it in my second run but i did get bored, because of lack story telling. I fully understant that they did have their own way telling stories (finding clues) but still....
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: WMCoolmon on December 25, 2004, 12:14:07 pm
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
The loading times are a pain in the ass, every five minutes you enter a new area and have to wait a minute or two to load it.

Can someone please tell me if it's possible to play this game without running steam (which hogs resources), and to play it without a CD?


I don't think you can play it without steam, but then, I've never tried closing steam while it's running.

You can play it without a CD after the newest update though.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Roanoke on December 25, 2004, 04:16:20 pm
Damn, this has not been a good year for the PC. We had the promise of Deus Ex2, Thief3, Doom3 and HL2 and they all sucked.
Thank f**k I didn't send a load of cash updating my pc.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Sandwich on December 25, 2004, 04:57:10 pm
Far Cry was good... :nervous:
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Roanoke on December 25, 2004, 05:55:34 pm
Yeah, but those 4 we're my Big Hopes for '04. Especially Thief and Deus Ex.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Rictor on December 25, 2004, 06:01:58 pm
If Doom 3 and Half Life 2 didn't impress you, its safe you say that your standards might be a bit high.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Roanoke on December 25, 2004, 06:04:06 pm
^graphics whore^

:p
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Rictor on December 25, 2004, 06:09:36 pm
^innovation whore^
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: karajorma on December 25, 2004, 06:16:56 pm
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What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?


Pure evil that threatens to consume the gaming world.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: mitac on December 25, 2004, 06:41:31 pm
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Far Cry was good... :nervous:


Indeed. Though I didn't like this mutant-stuff. Annoying beasts. Mercs were a lot more fun. As for HL2 : I'm just playing the demo. Looks good, but it's hard to tell from a two level demo.

Apart from that : anyone placed that Chronicles of Riddick game?
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: diamondgeezer on December 25, 2004, 06:54:23 pm
My will to live was largely drained by the sham that was DX2. The disappointment was so great that I was forced to replay the original five or six times.

But I do wonder what Zylon thinks of HL2; he seemed to be a rather dedicated HL fanboi. He theorised that I didn't appreciate the plot because I wasn't intelligent enough (my opinion is that the DX plot spoilt me) so I'd like to know how he rates the HL2 story which you lot seem so dismissive of...

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Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Rictor on December 25, 2004, 06:58:34 pm
I for one really like the ending of HL2, though they could have done a better job on asnwering even some of the basic questions regarding the Combine and Breen and so forth.

From what I can make out, the Combine are human, and are just regular people (remember at the beggining when the people are standing in the food line "Almost makes you want to join Civil Protection just to get a decent meal")

...and whats up with the Vortigons?
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Unknown Target on December 25, 2004, 07:20:46 pm
Gah! Dude, watch the spoilers! *afraid to read your post* I'm still playing through the game!

And I really loved Doom 3. Sure, it was repetitive, but it was indeed scary and fun, and the graphics certainly top HL2's by a mile in my opinion.

Also, Thief III, from the demo, seemed pretty cool!
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Cyker on December 25, 2004, 07:34:38 pm
HL2 is freakin' weird.

I get the impression you're SUPPOSED to feel disoriented and confused, since Gordon is just dropped in the middle of it all out of the blue by that freaky g-man guy.

The ending is more or less right too - There will be a HL3 don't forget, so cliff-hangers are good ;)

My biggest gripe was the game was so ****ing boring. I mean, it looked fantastic, and the kinda stuff you could do with a small crowd and several grenades...! Phew, haven't had that much fun since Max Payne 2 and that part where you have to defend Baseball Bad Boy from a bunch of guy who are climbing over a wall (Into my grenades :evil grin:)

However, the whole game was basically me running away from... well... everything and shooting lots of stuff. HL1, as a game, was MUCH better - It had a VASTLY bigger variety to the kind of things you had to do.

I'd say HL2 compares to HL1 the way Deus Ex 2 compares to Deus Ex 1, or the new Starwars Trilogy compares to the Original Trilogy.

It ain't *really* bad, but it it ain't that great except for the eyecandy...

And it CERTAINLY wasn't worth the amount of ****e I had to go through to get it running.

In fact I ended up borrowing my mate's pirate version since I never managed to get my LEGIT one running after 3 days ot trying... like Tiara I took it back for a refund after I completed it. Whenever I wanna look at the game again I just watch the HL2 speed-run AVI on the PlanetQuake SDA, it's a lot more entertaining than playing the game, and that is a really bad sign...

I also found out that you need a STEAM account just to play the DEMO... if more games mfgs. start doing this I think I'm just gonna boycott them all... it's not that hard atm since I have bought maybe 3 games in the last year (It's depressing how nobody seems to be able to make a game that grabs me anymore... and to think Bubble Bobble once had me addicted enough that I played it's entirety without stopping, whereas no game this year has come even close to that...)
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: KS_Al on December 25, 2004, 08:30:18 pm
The game is pretty good it self.  Many ways in killing enemies, the gravity gun was the best weapon I've seen.  hey what's more fun slicing a zombie in half with a thrown razor by the gravity gun.  

eh...I played Doom3 too...it sucks kinda is ask any other player who play FPS I ask every 10 people say best shooter of the year either Halo 2 or Half-life 2..Doom 3 was boring repetitive and unreplayable. Graphics are on par and basically just a run and gun a kind of genre we PC gamers are getting tired of and is very old since the 1st days of PC gaming started...we enjoyed it when it 1st came out but then stashed it away. Even ask the pros who reviews the games they say it's boring after shooting another and another old style which Half-life 2 there are many other ways to kill....Valve made a great game and deserves best PC gamer of the year as it should while doom 3 is eh...an ok game. after playing 3 hours of Doom 3 eh boring.........run and gun seen that done that uh boring. Half-life 2 oooo grav gun slicing zombies in half with a razor or shotgun or throwing barrels countless ways of killing while doom 3 shoot shoot shoot shoot. Doom 3 barely any story and while HL2 a least a story while D3 sucks. D3 had no major characters really while HL2 had characters we loved and had a connection to in the game. in HL2 we had to find out the stories by searching around corners or look on the walls or newspapers the new way of finding out the story and filling in the blanks. If you couldn't fill in the blanks then ya not looking hard enough.  Of course still leaves us alot of questions to answer.  It's up to us to speculate.  we're too used to cinematics these days.  D3 just sucks to tell you the truth. Even ask your friends and look on Gamespy and Gamespot  and IGN for what they said for PC GOTY and shooters.
Steam is ok and does have its problems to no avail.  Most of the time though it can be the users problems not Steams.  Remember you bought the license to play not own the game.  I've argue this many times on the Steam forums but they gave me crap....alot of it ....
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Ransom on December 25, 2004, 08:57:30 pm
Eh... I liked HL2 more than D3, probably because to me D3 was such a disappointment. They said they were making a decent story, even had some professional author to do it. But it still sucked and was nearly as non-existant as Far Cry's. And the game wasn't even scary (the biggest disappointment), nor was the action fun. HL2 wasn't much of an improvement story-wise, but I at least enjoyed the gameplay, and overall I enjoyed it a hell of a lot more than I did HL1 (in which the story, while told quite well, I thought was just not interesting, and I didn't find the game much fun either). And I happen to like Thief 3 more than I'm liking Thief 1 so far (After finishing 3 I got the first two to see what I'd missed. The gameplay is better in 1, but I'm not liking the story at all). Overall, this year HL2 and Thief 3 were the only ones that didn't disappoint me, but that's probably only because I had extremely low expectations of HL2 because of my dislike of HL1.

On the other hand, this year gave the fourth Myst and Silent Hill games. Both better than this mainstream stuff if you ask me.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Carl on December 25, 2004, 09:03:02 pm
I just got it today, and i'm only at the part where Gordon is introduced to dog, so this thread really needs a spoiler warning.

and so far, I like HL2. it's pretty fun and neato :yes:
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Rictor on December 25, 2004, 09:31:50 pm
the part I mentioned happens about 10 minutes into the game, and isn't really important (its quite possible to miss it if you just rush through) so I didn't think a spoiler warning was necessary.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: KS_Al on December 25, 2004, 09:36:23 pm
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Originally posted by Rictor
I for one really like the ending of HL2, though they could have done a better job on asnwering even some of the basic questions regarding the Combine and Breen and so forth.

From what I can make out, the Combine are human, and are just regular people (remember at the beggining when the people are standing in the food line "Almost makes you want to join Civil Protection just to get a decent meal")

...and whats up with the Vortigons?


Combine are aliens and the Combine police and soldiers are modified humans :D kinda freaky....disected and put on those masks as servants there's a picture in the game that shows that I have to find that....

Vortiguants were former slaves aliens of Xen in the 1st game if you played remember killing that big baby boss?  After killing that boss they were free and end up joining the humans against the combine...
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Rictor on December 25, 2004, 09:44:57 pm
Yeah, I got stuck and couldn't kill the big baby head thing, but that was AFAIK right before the end so I didn't miss much. And I know what the ending is anyway, from talking to other people.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Stealth on December 26, 2004, 12:49:51 am
I thought HL2 was great, personally :-/
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Stealth on December 26, 2004, 12:52:27 am
and for the record, the HL2 box comes with:

(5) CDs
(1) card.

pretty damn bland for a $54.99 game at Best Buy.  i'd have expected a lot more.  but the game itself i thought was good.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: WMCoolmon on December 26, 2004, 02:08:13 am
Personally, I thought HL2 was a very nice game. It really has a playing-a-movie feel and there are some excellent moments as well.

The engine is nothing short of superb. I can't think of any other game that has such a superb physics engine and really uses it.

And like I say, just try playing Ravenholm alone on a dark night. If that isn't freaky, I don't know what is.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Ransom on December 26, 2004, 02:40:53 am
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
And like I say, just try playing Ravenholm alone on a dark night. If that isn't freaky, I don't know what is.

It's not freaky. It's annoying, cause in some areas they just keep respawning. Try playing any of the Silent Hill games under those conditions and suddenly you'll be desensitised to that mild stuff. :p (Same goes for Doom 3)
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: WMCoolmon on December 26, 2004, 02:51:24 am
Silent Hill...that'd be the game I remember by the fact you have to fish around in toilets with your bare hands for clues? :p
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Ransom on December 26, 2004, 03:13:57 am
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Silent Hill...that'd be the game I remember by the fact you have to fish around in toilets with your bare hands for clues? :p

Heh. That was one part right at the beginning of Silent Hill 2. An optional part at that. And there's been a joke reference to it in all the games after. Don't tell me that's only as far as you played?

Half Life... that'd be the game I remember by the fact you have to talk to scientists?
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Roanoke on December 26, 2004, 07:07:08 am
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Originally posted by Rictor
If Doom 3 and Half Life 2 didn't impress you, its safe you say that your standards might be a bit high.


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Originally posted by Rictor
^innovation whore^


'tis not innovation. Doom3 was just running round small areas (linked by corridors) with randomly appearing hostiles. All this crap with HL2 and steam has totally put me off also.

And don't get me started on DX and Thief. :sigh:

This should have been a kick ass year for FPS. I think my favourite game of this tear has been Burnout 3. I never expected that.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: WMCoolmon on December 26, 2004, 02:36:42 pm
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Originally posted by Ransom Arceihn

Heh. That was one part right at the beginning of Silent Hill 2. An optional part at that. And there's been a joke reference to it in all the games after. Don't tell me that's only as far as you played?


Actually, I was watching a friend play. :p

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Half Life... that'd be the game I remember by the fact you have to talk to scientists?


Are you saying that Scientists have nothing useful to contribute? *shakes head sadly* What has the world come to? :(
Title: Re: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Knight Templar on December 26, 2004, 02:38:57 pm
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
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Pubes?
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Ransom on December 26, 2004, 10:37:20 pm
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Are you saying that Scientists have nothing useful to contribute? *shakes head sadly* What has the world come to? :(

Not at all, I was just pointing out the irrelevance of the toilet comment, as you don't spend the entirety of Silent Hill looking in toilets and you don't spend the entirety of Half Life talking to scientists.
Title: Re: Re: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Unknown Target on December 26, 2004, 10:43:44 pm
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Originally posted by Knight Templar


Pubes?


What?

Anyway, I'm actually starting to get through Half Life...the game is definately big...but every part of the game feels....odd, like the game should end right after that part is completed.
Title: Re: Re: Re: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Taristin on December 26, 2004, 10:54:26 pm
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
like the game should end right after that part is completed.


That's how I felt through the entire last 45 minutes of LOTR (the third one) :p
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Knight Templar on December 28, 2004, 01:41:00 am
OMG Me too! That was the longest theatrical 45 minutes ever.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: .::Tin Can::. on December 28, 2004, 10:25:34 am
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Originally posted by Rictor
If Doom 3 and Half Life 2 didn't impress you, its safe you say that your standards might be a bit high.


I couldn't agree more. I enjoyed Half Life 2 a lot, and found Doom 3 entertaining and scary. What, people hate it because it slows down on their system and loading times arent 3 seconds long? Who cares?
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Tiara on December 28, 2004, 11:04:19 am
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Originally posted by .::Tin Can::.


I couldn't agree more. I enjoyed Half Life 2 a lot, and found Doom 3 entertaining and scary. What, people hate it because it slows down on their system and loading times arent 3 seconds long? Who cares?

:wtf:

:blah:

:doubt:

I. Just. Hate. Those. Games.

It's not because my computer can't run them because my computer runs them as smooth as a sanded and polished phallic-shaped diamond.

If anything, your standard are just plain low. You see eye-candy and go 'OOOOW! PRETTY LIGHTS! THIS GAME R0X0RZ!'. Both games had exactly 0 story of interest that could actually hold your attention for longer then an hour. Not that games without story can't be fun, but they will ALWAYS[/b] lack gaming quality against a well done story-driven game.

Doom II was actually even better then HL2 btw, since it wasn't such a pain to run with all that additional crap that came with it. :p

In any case, if you claim that my standards are too high just because I don't like a game that's all looks, a no-brainer FPS and has no story to speak of, you are just kidding yourself.

I can enjoy a good FPS session too, and I think it's only good if you prefer FPS games to story driven games since that is your choice. But to say my standards are high just because I don't instantly transform into a fanboi and start a dick-waving contest is just plain stupid. Period.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: aldo_14 on December 28, 2004, 11:07:31 am
Nowt wrong with 'no-brainer' games if they're fun.

(god, I miss playing frogger on the Acorn..........)
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: Unknown Target on December 28, 2004, 12:05:22 pm
I actually got enough RAM to play HL2 without sitting for 20 minutes waiting for the level to load. Now that I did that, the game is more enjoyable, but it's definately a different flavor from Doom 3.

Personally, I like Doom 3's graphics and atmosphere more, and the whole thing seemed very....alive, I guess is the best way to say it.

Half Life 2 is very interesting to look at and walk through, the human detrius scattered throughout the levels is almost suffocating, and very atmospheric. However, the entire game seems quite sterile, all your enemies seem to simply vanish, like they have no background whatever, and they're so nondescript--it's like playing MOHAA: the enemies are everywhere, and they're as easy to kill as baby seals with a machine gun. Doom 3 avoided this problem by having the enemie actually be nondescript hell demons, and have them have interesting movements and are harder to kill.

However, I have to say that Half Life 2 can entertain, but the one thing that absolutely kills the game is the loading. It's retarded in that you literally only load three or four buildings at a time, then have to reload them everytime you advance through the level.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: .::Tin Can::. on December 28, 2004, 02:26:50 pm
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Originally posted by Tiara

:wtf:

:blah:

:doubt:

I. Just. Hate. Those. Games.

It's not because my computer can't run them because my computer runs them as smooth as a sanded and polished phallic-shaped diamond.

If anything, your standard are just plain low. You see eye-candy and go 'OOOOW! PRETTY LIGHTS! THIS GAME R0X0RZ!'. Both games had exactly 0 story of interest that could actually hold your attention for longer then an hour. Not that games without story can't be fun, but they will ALWAYS lack gaming quality against a well done story-driven game.

Doom II was actually even better then HL2 btw, since it wasn't such a pain to run with all that additional crap that came with it. :p

In any case, if you claim that my standards are too high just because I don't like a game that's all looks, a no-brainer FPS and has no story to speak of, you are just kidding yourself.

I can enjoy a good FPS session too, and I think it's only good if you prefer FPS games to story driven games since that is your choice. But to say my standards are high just because I don't instantly transform into a fanboi and start a dick-waving contest is just plain stupid. Period. [/B]


So you are assuming I only like the game because it looks good.

Wrong.

Game's like Serious Sam are meant for no-brainer pretty-graphics experiences. I thought it was just downright fun to play. The story wasn't half-assed either. Let me throw in some spoilers (in tags) since people apparently haven't gotten that far.

Spoiler:
Thing's like your allies betraying you, having Alyx's father kidnapped, then Alyx herself, and then D.O.G's disappearance, etc, etc, are all nifty plot twists that drove the story. Sure, it aint the best, but it's there and it works for me. Doom II is better? Lick me. It was just "shoot everything that shoots at you and click the switch at the end." It was more Serious Sam than anything else.


Tiara, I seriously think that just because a game looks good does not make it good. Gameplay elements it included like seeking cover and having enemies smoke you out with grenades all added to immersion factors. (Gosh I hate it when they get me out of my hiding spot. Then again, shooting grenades back at them was pretty fun :p)
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: WMCoolmon on December 28, 2004, 03:29:31 pm
If HL2 was a no-brainer, 0-story FPS, you wouldn't have characters like Breen, Dr.Kleiner, Eli, Barney, "Heady", or Dog. You might still have Alyx, though. :p

There wasn't a massive amount of time spent on plot development, but there was a fair amount of time. The whole first half of the game was a sort of nonverbal briefing, intended to set the stage for things. You didn't learn everything because, like any good soryteller knows, it's best to never explicitly tell everything. :D

The story could've been more creative though, I'll give you that.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: aldo_14 on December 28, 2004, 04:45:34 pm
Spoiler:

to be honest, I could see the whole betrayal thing coming a mile away.... it was pretty blatantly signposted.
Title: What comes in the Half Life 2 boxes?
Post by: .::Tin Can::. on December 28, 2004, 05:04:54 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Spoiler:

to be honest, I could see the whole betrayal thing coming a mile away.... it was pretty blatantly signposted.
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How is that?