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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Starwing on April 09, 2001, 10:56:00 am

Title: DIE, Shivan!
Post by: Starwing on April 09, 2001, 10:56:00 am
It takes more then just a Lucifer to stop the almighty Autarch...

  (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/freespace/art/starwing/autarch_lucy.jpg)  

Thanks to Steak for uploading it and putting it into the Fan Art section  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

[This message has been edited by Starwing (edited 04-09-2001).]
Title: DIE, Shivan!
Post by: Nico on April 09, 2001, 12:10:00 pm
the beams fires from the wrong place (hmm, reminds me something lol). Check FS2 intro  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: DIE, Shivan!
Post by: Fineus on April 09, 2001, 01:02:00 pm
You've never played FS (original) have you? thats the right firing position for the beams on the Lucifer, the intro movie got it wrong  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: DIE, Shivan!
Post by: Starwing on April 09, 2001, 01:34:00 pm
If you look at the briefing ani where Lucy is introduced you will notice something at the destroyers side that COULD be a beam cannon. But the game model only has two beams on the arms.
Title: DIE, Shivan!
Post by: Nico on April 09, 2001, 01:57:00 pm
"You've never played FS (original) have you?"
Of course I have! I finished it again last week!!! Mmh, let me check...
Yes, you're right. Anyway, that looks better in the intro I think. But there's no point anymore, people prefer what they want, so I'm fine with this   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

-edit: anyway, you say that there is only two beams on the model, but in some briefing, they say Luci gots 3! So what are we supposed to believe? Even the Volition staff doesn't seem to know lol.

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[This message has been edited by venom2506 (edited 04-09-2001).]
Title: DIE, Shivan!
Post by: Sushi on April 09, 2001, 02:35:00 pm
This isn't a 3D render, is it? Dang, makes it much harder to judge.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

I like it... The lucifer looks great, and the Autarch, although you can't see much of it, doesn't look bad either. Your lasers look really good, and don't skew in the wrong direction. Great nebula in the background, although there are too many stars.

The explosions on the L. look kindof wrong though... and the beam coming off of the prong at a 90 degree angle definitely bugs me. The only other major complaint I have is the lens flare effect off one of the gunshots- it kindof distorts the rest of the image.

Keep up the good work!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)



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Title: DIE, Shivan!
Post by: Starwing on April 09, 2001, 03:08:00 pm
It is a render, although anything except the ships is post-production. The main idea was to show the different gun types on the Autarch.
The explosions were an experiment, was trying to use my spray gun and blur method for damage effects.
Title: DIE, Shivan!
Post by: NeoHunter on April 10, 2001, 05:43:00 am
The Lucifer is firing from the right place. Its forward arms.

With so many guns on the Autarch firing on the Lucifer, it reminds me of the space battles in Babylon 5. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: DIE, Shivan!
Post by: Sushi on April 10, 2001, 02:37:00 pm
Alright, here's how I THOUGHT it worked...

Front arms had the Shivan Flux Cannon: a.k.a Shivan Super Laser. The beam turrets were on either side, where they fire in the opening movie.

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Title: DIE, Shivan!
Post by: Griffon UK on April 10, 2001, 03:26:00 pm
The Lucifer has 3 Flux cannons...

2 on the forward arm thingies & one on the right hand side that was used to bake that Orion...

A cut FS1 cutscene showed the Lucifer taking up position around Vasuda prime showed it using the right hand cannon...

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Title: DIE, Shivan!
Post by: Starwing on April 11, 2001, 12:31:00 am
Flux cannons ARE beams, just the way FS1 could do the effect.
Title: DIE, Shivan!
Post by: Setekh on April 11, 2001, 01:33:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Starwing:
Flux cannons ARE beams, just the way FS1 could do the effect.

That's right. However, the Shivan Super Laser from Shrike's Arsenal looks much better than the beam there by default (is it an LRed?).
Title: DIE, Shivan!
Post by: Shrike on April 11, 2001, 01:37:00 am
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Title: DIE, Shivan!
Post by: Setekh on April 11, 2001, 04:14:00 am
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Title: DIE, Shivan!
Post by: NeoHunter on April 11, 2001, 05:45:00 am
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Title: DIE, Shivan!
Post by: Starwing on April 11, 2001, 07:36:00 am
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Title: DIE, Shivan!
Post by: Nico on April 11, 2001, 02:15:00 pm
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Title: DIE, Shivan!
Post by: Grey Wolf on April 11, 2001, 02:16:00 pm
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