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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Fury on January 13, 2005, 03:12:25 pm

Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Fury on January 13, 2005, 03:12:25 pm
So in short, TBP needs new weapon effects, but we're kind of short in right artists who can do good effects. Lightspeed upgraded TBP's pulse and beam weapon effects. However we need new weapon effects as well. Lightspeed might be too busy to do those effects, so we agreed I ask for help from here and see if someone can help us out.

What we need are weapons effects for Vorlon and Shadow ships. As well as maybe a few other effects. If you don't know B5, you can download some reference from here. (http://www.3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/babylon//MOD/REFERENCE/shadow and vorlon weapons.rar)

As you can see from TBP 3.0 effects, they are not 100% true to the ones seen in the show. TBP 3.0 looks a lot better in my opinion, something I'd expect to see in today's B5 show/movie.

Questions? Shoot and I'll answer to best of my abilities.

*crosses fingers*
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Fury on January 15, 2005, 02:56:10 pm
:bump:
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: DaBrain on January 15, 2005, 07:44:58 pm
Effect, huh?

Just my area.


With enough time I can work on it.

I'm pretty busy right now, but I think I can create some beam and glow effects in this month. Or at least a large part of them. ;)


BTW the shockwave is almost done. It just needs some tweaking.


What's the time limit?
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Fury on January 16, 2005, 02:51:53 am
The ships are about finished, so as soon as possible but there's no timelimit either because we can't release them without their own weapon effects, now can we? ;)
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Carl on January 16, 2005, 03:34:00 am
I can do it. i'm better than you are at making weapon effects. e-mail (or PM) me what weapon effects you need done. in turn i will accept your logo-tbp.gif under my name :nod:
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Fury on January 16, 2005, 06:30:33 am
I don't know which one of you two is better with weapon effects. Unless DaBrain wants to give up, how about you try to make a Vorlon beam weapon effect from the reference linked above and we'll decide which one does the rest? :)
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: DaBrain on January 16, 2005, 07:06:15 am
I found a trail effect in my WIP folder which looks a bit like the shadow beam.

(http://img107.exs.cx/img107/9462/shadowbeamalike8ln.jpg)
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Fury on January 16, 2005, 07:18:22 am
Looks pretty good.
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Fury on January 16, 2005, 07:21:17 am
Just got a PM from Carl showing his vorlon beam effect, how about you DaBrain? :D
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: DaBrain on January 16, 2005, 07:42:01 am
Hmm I not really sure how it's supposed to look like.

I know it from the series, but still.

Is this a good start?

(http://img129.exs.cx/img129/8426/vorlonbeamalike32yl.jpg)
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Fury on January 16, 2005, 07:45:42 am
Both samples are a little different and both have their good points. I need to lean towards DaBrain's sample because I like the center more. But that's just my personal preference of course.

To make it fair, here's what Carl made.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/Carltheshivan/59fdd05e.jpg)
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: DaBrain on January 16, 2005, 07:53:54 am
They look nice put together.

But I can't see a bright core in the reference.

(http://img129.exs.cx/img129/985/59fdd05e14of.jpg)
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Fury on January 16, 2005, 08:11:17 am
While it does not need to be 100% accurate, but in my opinion it looks better without the bright core. :)

How about you guys work together with weapons effects for TBP? I can make you both staff and request you an access to our private forum. :) Of course I also expect you won't just disappear beyond the Rim like many others have done in the past. ;)
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: DaBrain on January 16, 2005, 08:22:17 am
Sure. I'm a big Babylon 5 fan.  ;)

BTW I've ... "tweaked" your shadow glow. ;)

http://www.8ung.at/dabrain/shadowglow.rar
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Fury on January 16, 2005, 08:25:48 am
Any shadow effects you might have found from 3.0 core vp, shouldn't have been there. They suck. :D
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Carl on January 16, 2005, 08:31:11 am
mine looks alot more like the reference imo. DaBrian's center looks far too crinkly.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/Carltheshivan/8b70227e.jpg)
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Lynx on January 16, 2005, 08:33:27 am
Well, I don't have the time to make weapon effects for TBP, but at least for the neutron beam I think it should look like this:

(http://www.scifi-3d.de/wcsaga/Lynx's stuff/neutron1.jpg)

It shouldn't have those random grean particles, since they don't serve a purpose beside to scream "Hey I'm detailed!" More important is good color fading.

EDIT: Thought you were talking about the Minbari neutron beam.:shaking:
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Fury on January 16, 2005, 08:34:41 am
I told you it does not need to look 100% like in the reference pics. :)
Your two effects combined (without the bright core) is in my opinion the best. Other staff member's opinion might differ though.

So, I take you have nothing against working with DaBrain and possibly maybe with Lightspeed? ;)
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Lynx on January 16, 2005, 08:39:21 am
Nope, as said, I have too much work myself, I just did that quick graphic because I don't like those random blobs everywhere in the TBP weapon effects.
And I'm too stubborn to let other people interfere in my work.:D
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Fury on January 16, 2005, 08:40:57 am
I was talking to Carl... :p
We have no need for Minbari beam effects, Lightspeed remade them for 3.0 already.
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: c914 on January 16, 2005, 09:08:03 am
here are mine WIPs
Shadow
(http://c914.w.interia.pl/ob/shadow.jpg)
Vorlon
(http://c914.w.interia.pl/ob/vorlon.jpg)
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: gevatter Lars on January 16, 2005, 09:12:26 am
When we speak of B5 fx...could someone cure it of these just round balls flighing around..special the EA ships?
IRC at least the frontguns of the Omega where not round.
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Fury on January 16, 2005, 09:14:19 am
Thanks. :) I do think DaBrain and Carl are more than enough for now. Unless they disappear somewhere, we probably won't need more visual artists. :)

And the current pulse effects are just fine. There's no need to change those effects.
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: gevatter Lars on January 16, 2005, 09:20:05 am
They are just round balls...it looks strange compared to the last release its a step back IMO.
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Lynx on January 16, 2005, 09:26:46 am
Yeah, the particle gun effects were much better in R2 IMO. Now they have a better color fading, but everything else is worse.
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Fury on January 16, 2005, 10:17:59 am
While I disagree, you are entitled to your opinion.
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: gevatter Lars on January 16, 2005, 10:26:48 am
Well just take a look at how it looked in the show.
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Fury on January 16, 2005, 10:35:30 am
Why you think I don't know how it looked in the show and movies? The point is, I do think our current effects look better than in the original show.

Sorry if you don't like the effects. But we won't change them just because a few does not like them.
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Carl on January 16, 2005, 12:07:27 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Mr. Fury
So, I take you have nothing against working with DaBrain and possibly maybe with Lightspeed? ;)


the more the merrier (and less work i have to do :D)
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: gevatter Lars on January 16, 2005, 12:09:41 pm
Could you then tell me what files I have to change to make my own effects for the EA ships?
Title: Weapons effects artist needed
Post by: Fury on January 16, 2005, 12:10:03 pm
Both you and DaBrain should have TBP internal access as soon as an admin can be arsed. :)