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Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: Kie99 on January 16, 2005, 05:12:56 am: I remember a poll like this a while ago, but all it had was a few sub-standard n00b campaigns (No-offence to the Creators) and I thought now, after the recent flurry of new campaigns its a good time for another one...
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: mitac on January 16, 2005, 07:41:33 am: other: FS1 campaign. ;)

Edit : eh, has "Freespace" been on the list from the start?
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: Nuclear1 on January 16, 2005, 07:56:24 am: I really liked Aeos Affair, though it was a little difficult.

Derelict and Homesick were of really good quality, anyway. ;)
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: Ransom on January 16, 2005, 08:02:55 am: FS2 campaign.
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Post by: TopAce on January 16, 2005, 08:18:40 am: FS2 Main Campaign.
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: Falcon on January 16, 2005, 08:25:27 am: Freespace I campaing
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: Janos on January 16, 2005, 09:02:04 am: FS1
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Post by: Gai Daigoji on January 16, 2005, 09:03:42 am: Inferno: R1 :D
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: Primus on January 16, 2005, 10:38:12 am: Don't remember what I voted the last time... But now I vote FS2 :p
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: Gloriano on January 16, 2005, 10:39:54 am: Twilight Because well I like conspiracies
Derelict
Warzone
aftermath
homesick
Sync

Sorry but I just can't say one campaign because i have enjoyed so many
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: -Vulture- on January 16, 2005, 01:24:59 pm: Revenge - The Final Conflict

Nothing beats this combination of action and the best story ive played in my whole life. Its so complex, but alway logic, if wouldnt know it, i would have thought that this story is from at least two or more writers. Fits my personal taste perfectly.
But maybe if inferno is released (hopefully :D ), this one could get my favorite...
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: TopAce on January 16, 2005, 01:55:24 pm: Quote
Originally posted by -Vulture-
Revenge - The Final Conflict
...

This is a German campaign with no English translation, am I right?
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: karajorma on January 16, 2005, 02:10:42 pm: Yep. All I can say is that it must have a really excellent plot cause the few missions I looked at in FRED were technically quite poor (about 20 events or so with a fair few bugs that I spotted quite quickly).

Most of the FA missons I've looked at have actually been more complicated.

However I don't speak german so I can't rate the plot and everyone who can raves about it so I guess that must be very good. (Or the germans are really starved for campaigns). :D
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: mitac on January 16, 2005, 02:48:33 pm: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma
However I don't speak german so I can't rate the plot and everyone who can raves about it so I guess that must be very good. (Or the germans are really starved for campaigns). :D

I can say that I'm very happy with my english version of FS2, playing voice acted user-made campaigns with my original german version and some occasional wingman shouting "Command, ich brauche Nachschub!" sucks. :ick:

I'll have a look at that RFC-campaign. I have my doubts, that's for sure.
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Post by: Hippo on January 16, 2005, 03:12:07 pm: Read the Sig :p
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: NGTM-1R on January 16, 2005, 04:29:50 pm: I'd vote for my own, just because I'm annoying like that, but I cannot deny the soul-owning-ness that was Homesick.
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: -Vulture- on January 16, 2005, 05:23:38 pm: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma
Yep. All I can say is that it must have a really excellent plot cause the few missions I looked at in FRED were technically quite poor (about 20 events or so with a fair few bugs that I spotted quite quickly).

Most of the FA missons I've looked at have actually been more complicated.

However I don't speak german so I can't rate the plot and everyone who can raves about it so I guess that must be very good. (Or the germans are really starved for campaigns). :D

Yeah, maybe the missions arent perfect, but hey, there 88 of them! Ive spoken to SFN-Darkwarrior who made the campaign an he worked for a VERY long time on them, and he wanted to finish it this life:lol: . All i can say is that the missions are great, maybe not as long as others but still great and with some nice surprises inside. Damnit i almost cried, as the GTCv Malovolence sacrificed itself in a very effectful way. Its bad that the englisch translation was never finished, so you can only trust me, that this story is just...just superb.
Youll meet a new colossus-ship, get thrown to andromeda through a really impressive portal, of course meet the shivans again and other humans in Andromeda. How they get there? Aken Bosch was never found...then theres a huge time-loop, 5 new Lucifers and a hell lot of action...and all this fits perfectly together, everything will be explained at the end, no open questions.
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: TrashMan on January 16, 2005, 05:27:40 pm: So...where can I download Revenge: Final Conflict?

since I speak german fluently, I cna play wihout problems.
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: -Vulture- on January 16, 2005, 05:59:43 pm: http://www.sci-fi-network.de/RFC-German.rar

There it is. Darkwarrior also told me, that he canceled the plan to do Revenge 2, cause he has just no time. Hard, but truly understandable.
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Post by: mitac on January 16, 2005, 06:16:04 pm: Quote
Originally posted by -Vulture-

Youll meet a new colossus-ship, get thrown to andromeda through a really impressive portal, of course meet the shivans again and other humans in Andromeda. How they get there? Aken Bosch was never found...then theres a huge time-loop, 5 new Lucifers and a hell lot of action...and all this fits perfectly together, everything will be explained at the end, no open questions.

:wtf: Well...
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: Pilot Of The US on January 17, 2005, 06:47:24 am: I'd be happy to help translate that Revenge - The Final Conflict campaign.
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: -Vulture- on January 17, 2005, 09:02:56 am: Quote
Originally posted by mitac

:wtf: Well...

What?:confused: Say into my face that this doesnt sound at least a bit interesting! Darkwarrior is no ship-modeler, so he took the things included in FS2.
You cant judge about this campaign, if you didnt even play it...

@ Pilot Of The US: I dont think that Darkworrior is still active here, so i cant say whats the status of the translation. But i think its canceled too, cause he has no time for this. (Theres very much text inside RFC)
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: NGTM-1R on January 17, 2005, 11:52:58 am: It doesn't. In fact, it sounds like just a really really frickin' long n00b campaign.
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: mitac on January 17, 2005, 12:07:57 pm: I tried mission one. It was okay. Just some minor issues. The briefings/cbs were too lengthy, for my taste. Plus they introduced way too many characters at once. Yet, I had almost forgotten about that HoL-mind-thingie. Good thing that personnel report in the cb reminds you, just in case you forget your identity. Great-War-Syndrome may result in Amnesia, as we all know.

Where was I?

Ah, the mission. Well, the enemy fighters were acting rather odd on a yeah-let's-send-a-single-wing-every-now-and-then-to-make-sure-teh-alphas-have-enough-time-to-kill-it basis. But that's forgivable. However, I still wonder how that vasudan cruiser (without fighter escort, of course) is supposed to blockade the jump node if it's positioned at the opposite side of the node, at a distance of 4000 klicks? Not to mention my fighter got Maxims. Yee-ha!

Did I mention that I had win AND lose-debriefing at the same time? Both texts were displayed. Plus I left the battlefield without permission. I was allowed to proceed nonetheless. Cool.

But apart from that, it was really interesting. ;)
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Post by: -Vulture- on January 17, 2005, 02:10:15 pm: Quote
Originally posted by ngtm1r
It doesn't. In fact, it sounds like just a really really frickin' long n00b campaign.

:mad: ;) It isnt. Play it and you will see. Dont judge about this campaign basing only on my small summary.

@ mitac:

Yeah, youre right, the first mission is buggy. Dont know how he could overlook this, but he did^^.
As i already said, the missions are not that perfectly scripted as in other campaigns, but i think, and hopefully you too, that with 88 missions its nearly impossible to get them bugfree in a reasonable amount of time. And he worked nearly a half year on those missions, and thats quite a long time (only fredding).

And i say it again, if you just look at one or two missions, you may find it boring, but if you understand german and play all three chapters, the great story will compensate for the fredding errors.
Ah and you said its abit much text in the first briefing...well uhm your at the beginning of an 88-missions long campaign, so whats abnormal with this? In this briefing you find out something about your own char, Commander Rendent, about your wingmans from the whole campaign, about your superior, your ships, weapons and so on, all this stuff you need to know. Cause i wanna know which char im playing, nothing with amnesia here...:rolleyes:
Ah and why your fighters already got maxims? Well uhm your char is a really good pilot in an important squadron and we are many years after the SGW. Everything seems logical to me...

Seems like im the only who likes this campaign here:sigh: ...
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: Grimloq on January 17, 2005, 02:47:42 pm: freespace. ive never played a game that comes close to it. ever.
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: Cobra on January 17, 2005, 03:19:17 pm: derelict gets my vote. it has an excellent storyline.
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: DIO on January 18, 2005, 06:43:31 am: Does anyone remember Unholy Alliance?
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: Kie99 on January 18, 2005, 01:21:47 pm: If you want to discuss Revenge final conflict, then please start a new thread and don't hijack mine.
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: Cobra on January 18, 2005, 06:59:32 pm: Quote
Originally posted by DIO
Does anyone remember Unholy Alliance?

Unholy alliance... let me think about that... UA was weird. Although I couldn't play most of it because then my retail fs2 kept crashing. :( is there a full campaign download for that somewhere?

Sorry for that last part, KTW
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Post by: Lightspeed on January 19, 2005, 03:10:42 pm: Shrouding the Light > Homesick > FS1 campaign > Everything else
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: Kie99 on January 21, 2005, 11:14:07 am: I'm suprised Sync and Warzone haven't got a single vote. I really like Sync and I thought loads of people like Warzone too.
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Post by: karajorma on January 21, 2005, 11:44:27 am: I think people universally regard them as top ten or even top five campaigns but no one actually likes them enough to put them as number one :)
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Post by: aldo_14 on January 21, 2005, 11:48:50 am: Quote
Originally posted by Cobra

Unholy alliance... let me think about that... UA was weird. Although I couldn't play most of it because then my retail fs2 kept crashing. :( is there a full campaign download for that somewhere?

Sorry for that last part, KTW

I don't think UA was ever finished, just a demo & what had been done when it was canned ( http://alliance.sourceforge.net/files/ I think has it)
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Post by: Cobra on January 21, 2005, 08:19:26 pm: um, i just remembered something: 45 out of 60+ missions were finished. Kazan quit UA and started the Ferrium Project.
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Post by: TopAce on January 22, 2005, 03:49:14 am: Just another overambitious that is thrown into the dustbin due to the lack of time.
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: Kie99 on January 22, 2005, 05:45:42 pm: I was really expecting the FS2 CAmpaign to totally OWN the FS1 one, I thought it had a much better story line, instead of Shivans Kill All then we stop them at the last minute it was
Shivans reappear, Explore nebula, we're winnig **** Ravana. Ravana destroyed This Shivan fleet is tiny ha ha ha **** Sathanas, kill it! Colossus Pwns Sathanas They've got no chance now we've killed they're juggernaut! Oh **** 80 Saths! OMGTHE$h1\/4|\|5JU5T|\|00|<3D(4P311aWTFBBQ! All the time there is the riddle of Bosch and ETAK. The story is Richer and more diverse in FS2. (IMO)
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Post by: Cobra on January 22, 2005, 05:55:59 pm: :lol: :lol: :lol: :nod: :nod: :nod:
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Post by: Kie99 on January 22, 2005, 06:18:10 pm: WTF?
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Post by: Cobra on January 22, 2005, 08:44:08 pm: what you just said. it's funny and i agree.
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Post by: Kie99 on January 23, 2005, 05:10:39 am: BTW that was stolen from [glow=red]THE SHIVAN MANIFESTO[/glow] so give Antares Credit for it not me.

The OMGWTFBBQ bit anyway
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Post by: Goober5000 on January 23, 2005, 12:58:40 pm: Quote
Originally posted by kietotheworld
BTW that was stolen from [glow=red]THE SHIVAN MANIFESTO[/glow] so give Antares Credit for it not me.

The OMGWTFBBQ bit anyway
Actually, that phrase has been around for a long while.
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Post by: Kie99 on January 23, 2005, 02:08:00 pm: Oh good, that makes me feel better and less of a thief. :)
What is up with the big space after the glow though?
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Post by: Hippo on January 23, 2005, 02:13:16 pm: its an IE error when displaying it...

FF users could care less about seeing the space, since we don't see the glow at all...

I hated the FS2 campaign. Wasn't realistic enough. Not nearly so much as FS1...
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Post by: Cobra on January 23, 2005, 02:22:17 pm: :nod: FS1 Campaign was better than the FS2 Campaign... FS1 was a little too easy on all difficulty levels. I beat FS1 on insane in 2 days.

Of course, i am a hardcore gamer... :drevil:
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Post by: Ransom on January 23, 2005, 03:14:32 pm: I found the FS1 campaign's story depressingly simple and generally uninteresting. Maybe it's just cause I played FS2 first, but I found FS2's campaign far more intruiging. In FS1 the Shivans pretty much felt like a generic xenophobic alien race, but in FS2 they appear much more mysterious. At least, that's what I thought.
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Post by: Cobra on January 23, 2005, 03:35:26 pm: don't worry, we won't kill you. except falcon, maybe :D
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Post by: Triple Ace on January 25, 2005, 09:33:39 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Pilot Of The US
I'd be happy to help translate that Revenge - The Final Conflict campaign.

DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!
Title: Best Campaign Ever?
Post by: Cobra on January 25, 2005, 10:45:54 pm: Yes, you must, pilot. we want to enjoy that campaign. i can speak German, but not enough to translate the text.
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Post by: -Vulture- on January 26, 2005, 04:12:36 pm: If he does it, then you have to wait for a long time, cause 88 Mission with many massive briefings (huge story) will take a long time to translate.
Just played through RFC again, encountered some bugs which made me angry, but beside that its my personal Nr.1 campaign. Damnit, if i would know how to Fred, i would fix those bugs and release it...
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Post by: Ghost on January 26, 2005, 04:20:33 pm: Freespace: The Great War was the best game gameplay-wise, story-wise, and(at the time) graphically-wise I'd ever played, and all but the graphics hold true for me. There will never be another game that can touch it... I would, however, be interested in another viewpoint of both FS1 and FS2, from someone who actually has a background... a more character driven Freespace, if you will.
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Post by: Cobra on January 26, 2005, 04:32:41 pm: er, try Derelcit, Homesick, Inferno...
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Post by: MetalDestroyer on January 26, 2005, 04:35:14 pm: Hum it's very hard to make a choice along this list. Inferno is excellent, like JAD, Deus Ex machina, FS 2.
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Post by: Cobra on January 26, 2005, 04:50:02 pm: Quote
Originally posted by -Vulture-
Just played through RFC again, encountered some bugs which made me angry, but beside that its my personal Nr.1 campaign. Damnit, if i would know how to Fred, i would fix those bugs and release it...

i could fix those bugs, since I'm learning to FRED properly. just tell me what they are.
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Post by: Ghost on January 26, 2005, 05:28:03 pm: I did try Inferno. It wasn't as well made as others made it out to be. But I want a game where the characters get developed through the game, and aren't just "Alpha 1, Beta 3," etc.
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Post by: -Vulture- on January 26, 2005, 06:53:16 pm: @ Cobra:

Ok, here you go: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,20268.msg613528.html#msg613528

I posted it there, cause this thread is about RFC...
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Post by: Cobra on January 26, 2005, 08:36:22 pm: thx. i shall work on the bugs and make all Germans happy :D
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Post by: willy_principal on January 26, 2005, 09:04:18 pm: First of all...the Freespace 2 campaign...(i haven't played FS1 yet)

then, Inferno...when i played that campaign/mod i though "WTF,m i'm playing Freespace 3?"
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Post by: Ransom on January 26, 2005, 11:12:14 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Ghost
I did try Inferno. It wasn't as well made as others made it out to be. But I want a game where the characters get developed through the game, and aren't just "Alpha 1, Beta 3," etc.

You should try Homesick and Shrouding the Light (http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/sbre/).

And Sync (http://www.freewebs.com/arceihn/). :nervous:

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Originally posted by -Vulture-
If he does it, then you have to wait for a long time, cause 88 Mission with many massive briefings (huge story) will take a long time to translate.

Lots of writing does not necessarily equal a good story. In fact often using too much writing is a sign of a bad one. It's better to show rather than tell. That said, I have to admit apart from the Colossus part it does sound kinda interesting.
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Post by: oohal on January 27, 2005, 04:18:48 am: ah sync the campaign for all your head screwing needs (that means play it)

BTW i voted for JAD:p
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Post by: -Vulture- on January 27, 2005, 08:52:45 am: Quote
Originally posted by Ransom Arceihn

Lots of writing does not necessarily equal a good story. In fact often using too much writing is a sign of a bad one. It's better to show rather than tell. That said, I have to admit apart from the Colossus part it does sound kinda interesting.

Yeah, i know what you mean. There are only some briefings which are about 7 "sites" long. But they are fully necessary if you really want to understand the huge story. Cause some questions just need to be answered by briefing and not ingame. For example the meeting from Admiral Nakami with the Andro-Terran leader. There you read alot about the history of the Andro-Terrans and how they could be the descendants of Aken Bosch and his followers who just disappeared in the original FS2 campaign.
And well, you can be luky to have the Marco Polo, the descendant of the Colossus, by your side. If not, the chances to survive in Andromeda would be really small^^. Ok, and of course he is no modeler, so he took the biggest friendly model he found as the main ship of his campaign :) ...