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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Kie99 on January 22, 2005, 03:09:22 pm
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What are the names of all the terran, Vasudan and Shivan destroyers in Freespace's 1, 2, and ST and did they survive until after Capella? Missions CBAnis and cutscenes count. If you saw one but don't know its name put GTD/GVD/SD Unnamed, seen in:
I'll start the list:
GTD Galatea-Destroyed
GTD Bastion-Destroyed
GTD Nereid-Destroyed
GTD Intrepid-Survived
GTD Aquitaine-Survived
GVD Psamtik-Destroyed
GTD Legion(Holed Orion in cutscene)-Destroyed
GT(s?)D Hades-Destroyed
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SD Eva: Destroyed
SSD Lucifer: Owned by the Player Since Delta Can't Do Anything
SD Ravana: Owned by a Bomber although the GTVA lost like, 22 ships
SJ Sathanas (the first one): Owned by Colossus
GTD Phoenica: Owned by the Sathanas...Yet...was supposed to escape
GTD Whatever Ship You're On in ST: Blown Up
I'm out.
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Don't waste your time compiling an FS2 list though
http://www.brainzipper.com/fs2/notes/fs2_ship_list.html
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the pheonicia survived.
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Originally posted by Grimloq
the pheonicia survived.
Actually it depends on random chance really. Sometimes it dies and sometimes it survives. This has been argued several times. In fact almost every mention of the ship devolves into a debate about whether it survives or not.
Do a search if you're interested and let's end this debate here for once :D
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PVD Pinnacle - Don't remember
PVD Hope - Don't remember
PVD Anhur (or anvil? :confused: ) - Destroyed (Operation Templar?)
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GTD Phoenecia-Survived (As creator of the thread I have absolute supreme authority and am GOD! as far as this thread goes anyway)
From now on please post ship class as well...
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Typhons.
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Can't remember the name, but the Typhon in the mission when the NTD Uhuru gets destroyed running the blockade.
GVD ????? (Typhon) - survives
NTD Uhuru (Orion) - destroyed
NTD Vindicator (?) (Orion) - destroyed (you bomb it at the rally point after the above blockade mission)
GTD Krios (Orion) - destroyed (your home ship in Silent Threat, as mentioned by InfernoGod)
GTD Carthage (Orion) - unknown (present at the start of the Shivan incursion in Gamma Draconis. Whether it gets out of Capella is unknown))
GTD Messana (Orion) - unknown (supports evacuation of 3rd Fleet HQ in Capella. Survives that mission, but whether it gets out of Capella is unknown)
GTD Myrmidon (Orion) - survives (collects an escape pod in ST)
GTD Unknown (Orion) - survives (collects an escape pod in ST. Jumps in at the same time as the Myrmidon, steals a pod before jumping out again)
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Originally posted by pyro-manic
Can't remember the name, but the Typhon in the mission when the NTD Uhuru gets destroyed running the blockade.
GVD ????? (Typhon) - survives
hedetet
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Unless there is evidence to the contrary we will assume the ships survived, and that the player does a very good job and completes his mission to the best possible standard
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Originally posted by karajorma
Actually it depends on random chance really. Sometimes it dies and sometimes it survives. This has been argued several times. In fact almost every mention of the ship devolves into a debate about whether it survives or not.
Do a search if you're interested and let's end this debate here for once :D
There's an invunerable-when-hits-fall-below sexp setup on the Phoenica. It survived.
PVD Pinnacle, Typhon: Survived. The Vasudan equivalent of the Galatea, apparently: best or nearly the best destroyer in the PVN, it features in multiple FS1 missions.
PVD (HLD?) Prophecy, Typhon: Survived, probably. Hammer of Light destroyer that blocks the Delta Serpentis-Sol node as you're trying to catch up to the Lucifer. Some people like to take it down for skill points...but it's a colossal waste of ammo and time, all things considered.
PVD Hope, Typhon: Survived. Secured the jump node cluster in Alpha Centauri, with the assistance of the PVC Mecross and two wings from the GTD Galatea.
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Originally posted by ngtm1r
There's an invunerable-when-hits-fall-below sexp setup on the Phoenica. It survived.
Not always. For some people the Phoencia hits 0% before the invulnerable event can kick in. Seriously, run a search on it. :)
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...what? It always stays at 3% hull for me.
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Phoenicia is the one that pleads to command to allow it to retreat just before Bearbaiting or something, yes? I never actually saw that one survive.
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It survives more often than dieing fpor me, it depends on your procesor, beams are finiky.
Run the game at 64x and a sathanas will take a looong time to blow up a deimos with it's main guns.
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It stays at 1% for me, i have only seen it destroyed once.
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*sits back and watches as the fomer "I want a list of all the destroyers, their class, and if they were destroyed or not" thread turns into the debate as to whether or not the Phoenica is destroyed. then laughs. and laughs. and laughs.*
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Nereid was sent through the node anyways.
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Originally posted by InfernoGod
*sits back and watches as the fomer "I want a list of all the destroyers, their class, and if they were destroyed or not" thread turns into the debate as to whether or not the Phoenica is destroyed. then laughs. and laughs. and laughs.*
I did tell them to search. Twice in fact :D
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for the record, the pheonicia ALWAYS survives at 1% hull for me.
dont forget the saths :) lots of them blowd up.
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Originally posted by karajorma
Don't waste your time compiling an FS2 list though
http://www.brainzipper.com/fs2/notes/fs2_ship_list.html
People, just use this list instead of trying to blow your mind out trying to remember each and every capital ship destroyed in both Freespace games and Silent Threat.
And, just like kara said, the Phoenicia may or may not survive, depending on whether the little "ship-invulnerable" tag kicks in or not.
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The shiplist is not 100% accurate, IMO.
For example, the NTD Normandy was original the GTD Normandy, and is in one of the FS1 single missions. Also it lists the Lambda transport wing as if they were the same ships in several seperate missions, which is doubtful. Those are the problems with it I can remember off the top of my head.
I also have some issues with the personnel list and how it describes Bosch' companions as "Lieutenants" because that was how Bosch referred to them...when I think it's fairly obvious that was not the definition of lieutenant that was being used.
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Is it just me or would it be more use for all GTVA and all vessles of all races to be fighters? Fighters and bombers.
Sobeck, 6,000 + crew. Colossus, 30,000 + crew. C. blow up quickly by a sathy. Barely damaged sathy. Two bomber wings (or one) that were in, killed sathy.
Sobeck, two bomber wings can take them out easially, besides in Serious Blockade < cause its usually hard, without XerXes :) >. So 8 people combared to 6,000+! A fleet of fighters\bombers could wipe out many enemy cap ships.
Orions, 10,000 + crew. RI, taken out in less then 20 seconds. Complete waste of recoruces, men, and metal, if you ask me..
Anyone ever thought about this?
I took a look at that ship list thing..
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Firstly, it's Sobek, no c.
Second off, bomber wings never destroyed a Sathanas. They destroyed the Ravana.
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Originally posted by Raa
Firstly, it's Sobek, no c.
Second off, bomber wings never destroyed a Sathanas. They destroyed the Ravana.
Depends how well you do in their finest hour. Why is that Sathanas called Sathanas 17, it always comes up as just SATHANAS
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^you mean how much you used cheats?
Bomber wings can never defeat a sathanas, bombs do zilch damage to the beast, you need supercap weapons to hurt it.
And the sath did come up as sathanas 17
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Not for me it didn't.
Ever heard of Delta wing? as in
Colossus to Alpha 1
Alpha, Delta wing's heavy bombers are now at your disposal
I took out its turrets from long range with my trebs then made delta Wing nuke it to death.
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Originally posted by Charismatic
Is it just me or would it be more use for all GTVA and all vessles of all races to be fighters? Fighters and bombers.
Sobeck, 6,000 + crew. Colossus, 30,000 + crew. C. blow up quickly by a sathy. Barely damaged sathy. Two bomber wings (or one) that were in, killed sathy.
Sobeck, two bomber wings can take them out easially, besides in Serious Blockade < cause its usually hard, without XerXes :) >. So 8 people combared to 6,000+! A fleet of fighters\bombers could wipe out many enemy cap ships.
Orions, 10,000 + crew. RI, taken out in less then 20 seconds. Complete waste of recoruces, men, and metal, if you ask me..
Anyone ever thought about this?
I took a look at that ship list thing..
In WW2, 50 torpedo and dive bomber can destroy or cripple a aircraft carrier with a crew of 2000, and although this is a rare case, 4 Japanese dive bomber destroyed USS Prinston, a light carrier with 1000 crew.
That doesn't mean aircraft carrier is useless.
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My list of all the destroyer-class vessels in FS1&ST.
If not mentioned, I assumed the ship survived the T-V/Great war.
GTD Orion
GTD Amadeus - Destroyed in 1/25/35 by the Shivans in the Vega system.
GTD Bastion - Survives
GTD Eisenhower - Destroyed ca.2333 destroyed by a PVD Typhon in the Vega system.
GTD Galatea - Destroyed in 2/28/35 by the SD Lucifer in the Deneb system (open to debate I guess).
GTD Goliath - Destroyed ca. 2323 by a group of kamikaze Anubis-fighters.
GTD Intrepid - Survives
GTD Krios - Destroyed by rogue GTI forces in ??? in the ??? system.
GTD Minnow - Survives
GTD Myrmidon - Survives
GTD Soyakaze - Survives
GTD Hades
GTD Hades - Destroyed in ??? in the Beta Aquilae system.
PVD Typhon
PVD Anvil - Destroyed in ??? in the Altair system.
PVD Hope - Survives
PVD Pinnacle - Survives
PVD Prophecy - ???
PVD Ptah - Destroyed in ??? in the Deneb system.
SD Demon
SD Eva - Destroyed in 2/28/35 in the Deneb system.
SD Tantalus - Destroyed in 3/29/35 in the Sirius system.
SD Lucifer
SD Lucifer - Destroyed in 3/29/35 in the Delta Serpentis-Sol subspace tunnel.
Somebody should really do a FS1 shiplist. ;)
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Originally posted by DIO
In WW2, 50 torpedo and dive bomber can destroy or cripple a aircraft carrier with a crew of 2000, and although this is a rare case, 4 Japanese dive bomber destroyed USS Prinston, a light carrier with 1000 crew.
That doesn't mean aircraft carrier is useless.
Actually, that would be ONE Japanese dive bomber.
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Originally posted by kietotheworld
I took out its turrets from long range with my trebs then made delta Wing nuke it to death.
The sath is in system for less than ten seconds, i'm hard pressed to belive you did that.
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Mine isn't. It jumps in pwns Colin then just sits there like a lemon doing nothing.
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Why are you asking that list ?
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Me?
I just want to know what Destroyers are fair game to use in my new campaign TTR.
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There were 8 canon NTF destroyers, all presumably Orion-class, and all destroyed.
Jacobus
Repulse
Normandy
Cyrene
Vasa
Uhuru
Vindicator
Andronicus