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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Turambar on January 22, 2005, 09:07:12 pm

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness : And Poofs
Post by: Turambar on January 22, 2005, 09:07:12 pm

yeah, this shot rocks, so i thought I'd share it

(http://img184.exs.cx/img184/20/screen102ga.jpg)


And i'll go ahead and pitch my new nebula poofs
no more color artifacts, nice, aesthetically pleasing 512x512 .tga (i can recompress to any format requested) nebula poofs, purple, blue, and green (edit: red too!).  They just look better, and those stringy default ones were pissing me off

anyone got a place for me to host?

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on January 22, 2005, 09:47:10 pm

that depends...can i have them?:lol:

just kidding, make yourself a folder on my site and put em there, if you have forgotten the info, IM me in MSN.

oops for some reason i was thinking that Raa had done this. lol.  you just get so used to seeing someone's name after every post ;)

anyway Tur, i'll host it for you, everyway to contact me in listed, so just pick one.  we'll get me the files and i will host them for you and give you the link.  cool?

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Moonsword on January 22, 2005, 09:54:03 pm

Holy... :jaw:

:D :yes:

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: redsniper on January 22, 2005, 10:09:37 pm

well, I already responded to that shot in the '1337 screenshots' thread but I'll reiterate: :eek::yes: I have it as my background now :cool:

Title: Re: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Gank on January 22, 2005, 10:34:48 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Turambar
 poofs

hehehe

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Anaz on January 22, 2005, 11:55:34 pm

yeah...they're called nebula poofs...I fail to see the funny

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Night Hammer on January 22, 2005, 11:56:34 pm

wow.. that almost looks like a real picture

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Primus on January 23, 2005, 05:19:17 am

:eek:
That is... :eek2:
...One beautiful shot :D

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Ransom on January 23, 2005, 05:45:39 am

Very impressive. Almost looks like it has bumpmaps or something. Engine glows kinda spoil it though.

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: c914 on January 23, 2005, 06:26:28 am

huh..just...amazing:eek2:

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Turambar on January 23, 2005, 09:04:18 am

(http://img169.exs.cx/img169/7277/poofpurp012iy.jpg)

an example

Edit: note that 'old' was resized from 256x256 to 512x512 in photoshop using the bicubic method after being switched to RBg colors from Indexed colors, so it looks much better than if i had left it indexed and resized to nearest pixel

Edit2: hey, what'dya think would happen if i added specmaps and glowmaps for the poofs?

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Nico on January 23, 2005, 09:34:00 am

nothing, light doesn't have effects on them, I suppose.

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Kie99 on January 23, 2005, 09:51:49 am

Submit to "A celebration of Freespace" in the Main Hard Light Forum

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Carl on January 23, 2005, 10:37:31 am

Quote

Originally posted by Turambar
(http://img169.exs.cx/img169/7277/poofpurp012iy.jpg)

the old ones look much better.

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Turambar on January 23, 2005, 10:44:42 am

all i was trying to do was get rid of the stringyness and the color distortions, and i succeeded.  They look better ingame, because you only see part of the image at a time, and this looks much more nebulous than those overdone wisps.

the other ones look better too, purplepoof 1 was a bad example, my favorite was red2, but i was in a hurry

edit: better example:

(http://img182.exs.cx/img182/4655/poofred025rg.jpg)

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Turambar on January 23, 2005, 11:21:19 am

http://freespaceserver.cjb.net/origins/Turambar/turambar_spoofs.zip

heres the poofs, just a little update, and they come in .tga and .dds

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Lightspeed on January 23, 2005, 11:33:56 am

The old ones are better.

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on January 23, 2005, 01:16:54 pm

actually i like the new ones better

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: c914 on January 23, 2005, 01:37:40 pm

50%/50% - first old and second new are better

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: TrashMan on January 23, 2005, 05:39:11 pm

A Turin Turambar turun ambartanen.

I see someone else here reads Sillmarillion...

Great pic Turambar! kickass!

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: KARMA on January 24, 2005, 11:36:55 am

I guess that if they are better or not depends on how they work in game. Just judging the aesthetic of the images alone, the older look better

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Nico on January 24, 2005, 12:02:07 pm

Then again, you have to think "nebula" before judging, I think. The old one looks too much like a ball of lightnings. To be accurate, looks like those close up shots of cancerous formations. I think it'd help if the new one was thiner... hmm, darker, technically.

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: DaBrain on January 24, 2005, 03:22:40 pm

Be careful with that idea.

If it's too dark, you'll be able to see how the ships just disapear (they do) in nebulas.

Almost like only lod 0 is loaded.



BTW this is not really your kind of taste, right?

(http://img183.exs.cx/img183/622/poofred022th.jpg)

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: NGTM-1R on January 24, 2005, 03:33:48 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Nico
Then again, you have to think "nebula" before judging, I think. The old one looks too much like a ball of lightnings. To be accurate, looks like those close up shots of cancerous formations. I think it'd help if the new one was thiner... hmm, darker, technically.

But that's just it, the old ones look more like nebulas.

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Lightspeed on January 24, 2005, 03:51:41 pm

Better, but if anything, I'd go straight to animated poofs. :)

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Turambar on January 24, 2005, 03:57:35 pm

again, i did it mostly to get rid of those stringy things coming off the sides, to make the nebula smoother, more gaseous, and have no more annoying color artifacts. these do all three.

i have a feeling that animation would make it too busy, and no, the explosive looking one isnt quite to my taste for a poof, its cool looking for its own thing though

meh, i'll rework that purple one and hell, i'll put up jpegs of all of the poofs

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Nico on January 24, 2005, 04:22:20 pm

Quote

Originally posted by ngtm1r


But that's just it, the old ones look more like nebulas.

I disagree, but we can't argue about that, right? :p

daBrain, actually, I think that new one is the best of the lot, but I wonder how good it does combinated with other poofs, with it being a bright spot with dark surroundings. I'm afraid it'd look like a series of spots in space, no?

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Deepblue on January 24, 2005, 04:31:45 pm

We need Freelancer-esque nebulas

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Turambar on January 24, 2005, 04:35:08 pm

all high quality .jpg's, you could save them to disk and put them in your effects folder if you want, just rename them to the name above the nebula
poofgreen01
(http://img167.exs.cx/img167/2572/poofgreen012tg.jpg)
poofgreen02
(http://img167.exs.cx/img167/2473/poofgreen027ty.jpg)
poofpurp01
(http://img167.exs.cx/img167/9048/poofpurp016ef.jpg)

poofpurp02
(http://img167.exs.cx/img167/6457/poofpurp024cs.jpg)

poofred01
(http://img167.exs.cx/img167/4761/poofred019xj.jpg)

poofred02
(http://img167.exs.cx/img167/1110/poofred028sw.jpg)

and after all that, i feel i ought to put this here

Thanks to ImageShack for Free Image Hosting (http://www.imageshack.us)

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: KARMA on January 24, 2005, 04:40:07 pm

actually my idea of a neb is different from both the new and the old versions (the closer one is probably the first of the new set), so I was just considering that the older look more detailed (except the last one) althought the increased size.
But again, this means almost nothing, since what is important is just the in game result

edit->I posted just before turambar...
 thanks to him for the efforts, anyway. Aesthetically speaking, my preferred is porbably purp02

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: DaBrain on January 24, 2005, 05:43:21 pm

@ Turambar feel free to use the radial blur.

As the player will fly always through the center of the poof, using radial to simulate nebula size is a good idea.

BTW This will also increase the feeling of speed.

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Ransom on January 24, 2005, 06:12:02 pm

I like the new purple ones. They seem to have more texture than the others, especially the first one. The others are just... blurry. Not blurry in a nebula kinda way, but blurry as in a low detail kinda way.

Title: Pure Badass Awesome Coolness
Post by: Turambar on January 25, 2005, 06:37:40 am

actually, youre not always flying through the center, otherwise flying through the nebula would be very repetitive and tiresome

actually, you fly through any randomly selected part of them, which is why you dont see the exact same thing every poof.  Or at least, thats what I noticed

anyway, im gonna hijack my own thread and use it as WIP for my Ptah,  I'll post my pic when i get home

Edit: screw it, new thread