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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Liberator on January 22, 2005, 09:59:36 pm
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On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the hottest guy in the world and 1 being...well, you thing of something.
How attractive am I?
(http://www.geocities.com/lorzon1/liberator.jpg)
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You do understand that there are only like 3, maybe 4 girls here and that asking stuff like this in a gaming forum is pretty lame, right?
EDIT: and I realize that if this is a joke topic I've just made a fool of myself, but I'm used to that. :doubt:
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It is sort of a joke...but these are the only girls I know even remotely well enough to ask this question to. I mean it's either them or Sparkhawk over at SG.
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Why don't you just ask some girls at er... *glances at pic* ... college or work or something. You must have some female friends in real life (I hope).
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I'm not a girl, but.. ..um..
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not that I'm realy qualified on the subject, being a heterosexual man, but that said, I wouldn't say you are in any catagory of disabilitating uglyness.
but your physical apearence is more like a minimal requierment to be permited to try,
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He needs a new haircut... and to possibly lose the goaté (sp?)
But then, I've already told you what I think about you on SG... :)
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I'd shag ya. Gimme uyer number
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*runs*
No opinion from me *looks up* ****... I'm j/k. And yes, I'm trying to be nice. So shoot me now. *gets ready for loads of :snipe:*
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Originally posted by Liberator
On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the hottest guy in the world and 1 being...well, you thing of something.
How attractive am I?
(http://www.geocities.com/lorzon1/liberator.jpg)
you look like an inbred redneck
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That hurt... So at least I won't be shot now!
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Thats funny, to me he looks like an average Msoft employee.
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:Cough: pot, kettle.
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Originally posted by redsniper
Why don't you just ask some girls at er... *glances at pic* ... college or work or something. You must have some female friends in real life (I hope).
Umm, not really...nope. Don't have any real life friends at all really...:sigh:
You guys think I'm kidding when I say I empty rooms?
Raa, as I said at SG, I look much better with the goate than without...trust me on this.
Because I have so little facial hair anywhere but around my mouth...okay, let me explain it this way: I shaved it off when I left home to begin classes at ASU. My class mates thought I was 18-19. When I told them my real age a couple of them nearly passed out. They all agreed when I had it grown back the next week that I look much nicer with it than without it.
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I'm sorry, but I laugh whenever I look at that pic. But I'm just high. Not really. :snipe: again
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Haircut, then. :p
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Originally posted by InfernoGod
I'm sorry, but I laugh whenever I look at that pic. But I'm just high. Not really. :snipe: again
You're a dick, and you need to stop. One post is enough.
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Not a girl, but:
Definately a new hairstyle.
Might advise you go to the gym a little, as well. You're not fat, just a little...poofy.
And yes, I agree. If you can't make polite comments, stfu.
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New hairstyle. I need one too.
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Yea, chicks love physically fit men. Go get in shape if you arent already. Try running, its a good way to start and then work up to lifting from there.
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Originally posted by Gank
I'd shag ya. Gimme uyer number
This offer will only last till the morning.
btw I'm a giver not a reciever :)
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^^ your first post was disturbing enough, no need to make it worse.
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I'm only trying to give the guy a confidence boost.
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no Gank, you were being sarcastic and when no one found it amusing, you reiterated with more sarcasm to draw attention to yourself.
and drew, i've never given you much thought, but after i was shown how you've treated some people with your remarks, which aren't funny by the way, i got to thinking about a favor you could do all of us. look up everything you can possibly find on the word "tact". i'll even start your search for you, it is the ability to make your point without making an enemy.
Lib.....
There must be some women that you work with. Don't look for a relationship with any of them, just befriend them, it's much easier to get to know them when you do that. Go in genuinely wanting to be friends, it works. it also helps your confidence. During my divorce, i kept seeing the marriage counselor, who told me to "surround yourself with women" he also told me not to get romantically involved with any of them, but simply being near them alot will help in the self esteem department. so now i impart that you. :)
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Play around with your hair a bit. And think about highlights.
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Main Entry: tact
1 : sensitive mental or aesthetic perception
2 : a keen sense of what to do or say in order to maintain good relations with others or avoid offense
:lol:
Clown.
Sucking up isnt in the definition. And who cares if people online hate me.
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no one hates you drew. it's a simple matter of how you treat people on here. it isn't about like and hate, it's about right and wrong. if you would like to continue this in private, so as not to derail this thread, everyway that you can contact me is listed in my profile.
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now i have a question Lib, do you have a mullet or is that shadow behind your head by the neck?
Please dear god say shadow...
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Originally posted by ShadowWolf_IH
Lib.....
There must be some women that you work with.No job and I'm enrolled in Computer Science at a 2000 student university whose primary major is education.
Don't look for a relationship with any of them, just befriend them, it's much easier to get to know them when you do that.But once I do that, there is no way in hell that I could ask them out, hence why I've never been on a date Go in genuinely wanting to be friends, it works. it also helps your confidence.I've never been the poster child for confidence, I'm not even in the finest of fine print at the bottom During my divorce, i kept seeing the marriage counselor, who told me to "surround yourself with women" he also told me not to get romantically involved with any of them, but simply being near them alot will help in the self esteem department.That's easier said than done when 100% of the people in an area evac or move to points of rapid egress when I show up. so now i impart that you. :)
BTW, I can hear Tiara laughing her ass off in her house from here.
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Lib...you don't ask them on a date. you just don't. you are a friend to them. hwat it does though, is start to build your confidence for meeting women, and saying hey we should go do this or that, then eventually you will meet one and ask her out.
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You look like a regular guy to me. I mean, when I look at the picture I don't think anything like, "Wow, he's hopeless."
More of a, "Hey look, it's a guy who's dressed funny."
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That's...umm...that's my best/favorite shirt. I haven't had a lot of reason to dress up in my life. I own 1 really nice tie, 4 not so nice ties, 2 pair of what I consider to be dress pants, and about a half dozen button-up shirts. The rest of my wardrobe consists of several pairs of jeans, some polo shirts and assorted t-shirts and sweat shirts. I'm not a clothes horse. I cannot imagine spending half a week's pay a month on clothing.
I can still hear Tiara laughing, BTW.
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Originally posted by Drew
Sucking up isnt in the definition. And who cares if people online hate me.
Would you rather I ban you? Cuz you pissed me off with your remarks in this thread. Shape up or be shipped out.
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Walk tall
Be confident no matter what you think others think they will respect you for respecting yourself.
Be sincere not always smiling (not saying that you do I just taking first impressions from the picture)
Keep the goatee
I don’t know where you work if they have a dress code but think of dressing more casually no tie unless it’s an occasion button up shirts ok plain sweaters.
With your hair... make it less Sunday going to church hair. Be yourself if you want it colored wild spiked whatever crew cut you know try new things. You could even mess with it and send us pictures at each stage and we can tell you what we like best :)
In answer to your question... no one is going to put a number on you anyone that does is retarded you cant just rate people like a piece of meat by a picture. Its allot in how they carry themselves how they interact and such. :nod:
Anyway if nothing else remember what I said. Be confident no matter what you think others think they will respect you for respecting yourself. :yes:
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Well, you're definately not the ugliest guy I've seen in my life. Not at all. I've seen guys with puss running down their forehead. YUCK! You would probably get around a 4/4.5 in my book (which isn't bad since very few people get really high grades from me :p). That would be the number I'd give a regular guy.
No job and I'm enrolled in Computer Science at a 2000 student university whose primary major is education.
An all boys school or something? Cause what you need is a female friend. That will do wonders for you, really. I've seen it happen. If you spend some time with girls you'll get more confident.
But once I do that, there is no way in hell that I could ask them out, hence why I've never been on a date
Sorry to say this, but for most girls this is a real turn-off. Confidence is an absolute must if the guy wants to have even a shadow of a chance.
I've never been the poster child for confidence, I'm not even in the finest of fine print at the bottom
This is really something you need to work on. The best way is to socialize more. Go to parties (where girls are actually present :p). meet new people. In time you'll feel more comfortable.
Really, the hardest part is taking the first step. Because once you take it, there is no turning back.
That's easier said than done when 100% of the people in an area evac or move to points of rapid egress when I show up.
If that's the case, you need to better your image, the way people see you is very important (though this only shows the shallowness of the Human race).
First of all, your hair. Go to a barber shop and ask them to do something 'different'. You can always bring someone with you so you can ask them how it looks as well.
Second of all, dress more casual and not so 'up-tight' unless you have to. Don't wear ties unless it's some formal event. Simple blouse and jeans work just fine. If you don't know what to buy ask if a friend can help you pick out some new clothes (or ask the store clerk, they usually know what's 'in' and whats not).
But really, looks mean VERY little if it really *clicks*. I've seen guys with 3 centimeter boils on their forehead with girls. All because they got the confidence to make that first step. If you do get together with a girl, she'll probably be more interested in who you are then what you look like. Looks are just for first impressions.
Ow, and don't try and go for the 'cheerleader'-types because they are uptight, care about nothing other then money and have about as much emotional substance as plankton.
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Originally posted by Tiara
Confidence is an absolute must if the guy wants to have even a shadow of a chance.
First of all, your hair. Go to a barber shop and ask them to do something 'different'. You can always bring someone with you so you can ask them how it looks as well.
Second of all, dress more casual and not so 'up-tight' unless you have to. Don't wear ties unless it's some formal event. Simple blouse and jeans work just fine. If you don't know what to buy ask if a friend can help you pick out some new clothes (or ask the store clerk, they usually know what's 'in' and whats not).
Exactly... see! I knew I was meant to be born a girl! Someone up there screwed up. :lol:
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Good luck and all but I have to say:
I nearly wet myself at Ganks comments.
Immature and all especially in a probably serious thread, but hilarious to me none the less.
I have to say to Lib:
I've got a similar hair style but I don't perfect it like yours. It's kinda always ruffled. Takes away the geeky edge. :p
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Lib looks somehow scary yet relaxing, kinda like that really nice guy who hangs out near the kindergarden and gives candy to kids.
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Lib, you have and evil look on your face in that pic. maybe smile without squinting your eyes so much.
Originally posted by Liberator
I haven't wavered off 295-300lbs(what is that is stone BTW?) for literally years and I'm 6'3"
and that's just unhealthy. drop 100 lbs or so and you'll look and feel much better. if i had to guess, this is the #1 problem ladies have with you.
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Well, all I'll really say is two things :-
1 : Until you stop worrying about how you look, you will never like it.
2 : If your partner is more concerned about what you have to offer than the fact that the two of you are happy together, regardless of what either of you look like, then it is not a relationship with much strength in it's roots :(
Be comfortable with yourself, and other people will sense that and be comfortable around you.
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see how much better you look when you're thin? :nod:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/Carltheshivan/710b624c.jpg)
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Originally posted by Splinter
Exactly... see! I knew I was meant to be born a girl! Someone up there screwed up. :lol:
Just go to Brazil, they'll fix you up good :p
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Originally posted by Liberator
I haven't had a lot of reason to dress up in my life. I cannot imagine spending half a week's pay a month on clothing.
Trying to be different and confident is a lot of work and often unrewarding. If you put a little bit of effort into your appearance (and i dont mean by ironing things etc, just trying to keep up with a few basic trends) then you find you stop worrying "oh my god everyone thinks I'm a fat nerd", feel happier about how you look, and feel more confident because of it.
I've been through pretty much the same crisis for most of my teen years, got the upper hand on it now though.
Unfortunatly its easier to change youself than it is to change society. This doesn't leave you without options however.
Remember society is very superficial. People will judge you on how you look, and from that decided "Do i want to speak to / be firends with / even be in the same room as this person?". The thing to realise from this is that you do need to change how you look to fit into society, though you don't need to change your opinions/personallity. No need to be a fashion icon, just not a fashion disaster.
So your a university student? This is great, becuase you don't have to wear a uniform. Don't dress like your going to church! Like people have been saying, keep it causual.
Find a style that suits you. Being fashionalbe doesn't mean you have to wear Gucci shoes or have an extreme haircut. I wouldn't go for any extreme style, not like a highschool jock, not totally goth. Find something inbetween and keep it casuaul. If you wear a shirt and tie just to go to uni, your probably going to look a bit uptight to people around you. Just wear a pair of jeans and a t shirt, its much more approachiable.
You can fit a suprising amout of style into jeans and a t shirt. If I wear a pair of blue jeans, white sneakers and a black battlestar galactica t shirt, I look like a bit of a nerd. If i put on a pair of brown faded, flared low rise jeans with a vintage grey t shirt, fabric belt and pair of black converse, I look like I'm in an indie band. Note that I go for the second option, its simple and cheap to achieve, and looks good.
Finding the right place to shop is pretty important. Remember brands are expensive. Here in the UK shops like Topman, River Island, and Next sell fashionable, good quality stuff, but its cheap - because its not branded, just made by they're designers. If I buy a pair of Levis here it cost £80, thats for a boring pair of blue jeans. I usually spend £30 (~$50) on a pair of good jeans in shops like these. I don't think they are in america, but think along the lines of GAP (which is actually a bit more expensive). Shoping at traditional menswear stores is expensive and the stuff is a bit dated I find.
T shirts say a lot about who you are (or atleast who you want the world to think you are). Keep them simple but not bland. Maybee avoid light colours becuase they make you look big. Black, blue, grey, brown is good. Don't buy plain t shirts either, try to have some sort of pattern/logo on the front, it draws attention away from problem areas (stomach etc). This doesnt have to be a brand name remember, it doesnt even have to be relevant. 'Vintage' style t shirt are good.
Hair is an important aspect too. Comb-over? Its a bit 80's. Its better to spend 10 seconds on your hair giving it a bit of style than to spend 10 seconds combing it to be neat. You could get it cut shortish, and just put a bit of gel through it when its damp. Its fast, cheap, any barbour will be able to cut it short back and sides and a bit longer on top.
Just remember its ok to actaully put a bit of effort into what you wear, even if you think its hypocritical. Try to blend in with what everyone else wears, it doesnt make you any less of a person/individual. You'll find rooms will stop emptying when you walk it, and that will make you happier and more confident than trying to be different ever will. People won't avoid being seen talking to you, and when you get talking to people you find they aren't as different to you.
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*nominates self resident style guru*
well do you straighten your hair?
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Originally posted by Carl
see how much better you look when you're thin? :nod:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/Carltheshivan/710b624c.jpg)
:lol: :lol:
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Why you should never post your image on the internet (http://www.digitaltoast.co.uk/gallery/why)
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Originally posted by ShadowWolf_IH
no Gank, you were being sarcastic and when no one found it amusing, you reiterated with more sarcasm to draw attention to yourself.
Actually I was being serious, I probably would have shagged him last night. As they say round here a hole is a hole. I had a good wank this morning though so hes safe now.
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Hmmmm.... Tiara not axing someone when he's already down ?
*check for the other sign of the apocalypse, such as anon and kazan stopping being assholes*
Guess we managed to escape an apocalypse again :p
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Get a ****ing hair-cut! What are you, leader of the Young National Socialist's Party?
Bald looks stupid and long looks stupid (just look at Kasperl).
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No apocalypse then.....
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Originally posted by an0n
Bald looks stupid and long looks stupid (just look at Kasperl).
Die :p
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Originally posted by Tiara
Second of all, dress more casual and not so 'up-tight' unless you have to. Don't wear ties unless it's some formal event. Simple blouse and jeans work just fine.
Lib: IMPORTANT TIP: Do not wear a blouse.
That is all.
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Unless he's dressing like a pirate and/or 17th century dandy.
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I think we / someone-not-me should start a Hot-Or-Not thread.
Basically, degrading people by cramming their entire appearance into a single-digit numerical representation.
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"says the guy who'd rather die than post a clear pic of him on the net"
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Originally posted by an0n
Basically, degrading people by cramming their entire appearance into a single-digit numerical representation.
If you could get this into the format of a gameshow, you could sell it to tv networks around the world for millions.
Yeah, start the thread. Rake the hlp photo album for contestants.
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Originally posted by Nico
"says the guy who'd rather die than post a clear pic of him on the net"
Indeed. I like being a hypocrit.
But as I've said before, if I posted a picture of myself, it'd break the internet.
And I can't start the thread as it'd need to be kicked off with a picture.
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Steal someone elses. There're tonnes on that iara's photo idea thread thing.
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Hell no.
I'd get banz0red for surez0r.
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and that would be a bad thing how?
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Welcome to HLP's "style improvement". Feel free to post your inquiries. :p
Seriously, from what I can tell, that dress is not exactly up to date, to say the least. If that reflects your general style of clothing, you should spend some LOT of money on that.
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Originally posted by Genryu
Hmmmm.... Tiara not axing someone when he's already down ?
*check for the other sign of the apocalypse, such as anon and kazan stopping being assholes*
Guess we managed to escape an apocalypse again :p
I prefer to axe down people in their prime. It has a more devastating effect. Axing people when they are down is merely an act of mercy.
Random person: "I AM INVINCIBLE!"
*CHOP*
Me: "No, you're not."
Random Person: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! ACK!"
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Originally posted by mitac
Seriously, from what I can tell, that dress is not exactly up to date, to say the least. If that reflects your general style of clothing, you should spend some LOT of money on that.
Why that? I spend like 20, 30 euros a year on clothes ( when I don't feel greedy ) and people don't seem to complain ( save for those who think I should stop being always clad in black with black and some more black ).
Originally posted by Tiara
I prefer to axe down people in their prime. It has a more devastating effect. Axing people when they are down is merely an act of mercy.
Random person: "I AM INVINCIBLE!"
*CHOP*
Me: "No, you're not."
Random Person: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! ACK!"
Works only on random people tho, you mere female thing :p
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Originally posted by Tiara
I prefer to axe down people in their prime. It has a more devastating effect. Axing people when they are down is merely an act of mercy.
Random person: "I AM INVINCIBLE!"
*CHOP*
Me: "No, you're not."
Random Person: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! ACK!"
you seem to think you're good at that :rolleyes:
lol zings
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(http://www.coopstuff.com/Graphics/Sketch01/01-trina-funny.jpg)
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Looks don't even matter when it comes to a person. Personality is what really counts. If a person doesn't like you becuz of the way you look, then they are ****ing assholes who deserve to go to hell. That's all I have to say.
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Originally posted by Nico
Why that? I spend like 20, 30 euros a year on clothes ( when I don't feel greedy ) and people don't seem to complain ( save for those who think I should stop being always clad in black with black and some more black ).
There's a difference in expanding a stock of decent clothing and building a new one.
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Um...Lib, you look like your typical uptight super-Christian.
Which is true, but sitll.
Anyway, I'm a guy, but I think you seriously need to work on your wardrobe, heh...do you have any T-shirts?
And it would be cool to have a hot or not HLP thread :-D
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
And it would be cool to have a hot or not HLP thread :-D
With Tiara being the judge? Dear god. :p
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Haha, hopefully with more than Tiara as the judge :D
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Originally posted by InfernoGod
Looks don't even matter when it comes to a person. Personality is what really counts. If a person doesn't like you becuz of the way you look, then they are ****ing assholes who deserve to go to hell. That's all I have to say.
Thats just what humans do though. Humans are very social animals, with a strong structure in society. The cool/attradctive people don't want to be seen with the ugly/geeky people.
Originally posted by Nico
I spend like 20, 30 euros a year on clothes
Wow... thats not much.
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I got bored:
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/images/technicolour.jpg)
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Second of all, dress more casual and not so 'up-tight' unless you have to. Don't wear ties unless it's some formal event. Simple blouse and jeans work just fine.
Now here is where I have to express some disagreement. I don't own a pair of jeans, I wear ties all the time for no reason at all, and I end up hanging out with more girls than guys.
You can't just lump all ties together under one category; it's all about the appropriate combinations. There are tie/shirt combinations that look stuffy, and others that look cool in a formal sort of way, especially when you wear a fedora, which, by the way, can work like magic.
Sorry I insulted your shirt, Lib. I'd just never seen one like that before.
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
Haha, hopefully with more than Tiara as the judge :D
At the moment it'd be:
Maybe Tiara,
Maybe Marauder,
Maybe icespeed,
And maybe Antares. I forget if it's a girl or not. I seem to think Antares is a girl, but that might just be one of my running insults seeping into my factual knowledge base.
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Well, guys can give a rough estimate too :-p
And anyway, I can't really give fashion advice. 1) I suck at fashion, and 2) Basically everyone hee wears short pants and T-shirts :D
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I have the fashion sense of a homosexual.
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I'm proud to have the fashion sense of a straight guy :p
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Originally posted by an0n
I have the fashion sense of a homosexual.
So, this is you and your friends;
(http://members.lycos.nl/Liefding/gay_6.JPG)
:p
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Originally posted by Tiara
(http://www.coopstuff.com/Graphics/Sketch01/01-trina-funny.jpg)
edgy aren't we
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No. My beard isn't that thick.
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
Um...Lib, you look like your typical uptight super-Christian.
Which is true, but sitll.
Anyway, I'm a guy, but I think you seriously need to work on your wardrobe, heh...do you have any T-shirts?
And it would be cool to have a hot or not HLP thread :-D
Originally posted by Liberator
The rest of my wardrobe consists of several pairs of jeans, some polo shirts and assorted t-shirts and sweatshirts. I'm not a clothes horse. I cannot imagine spending half a week's pay a month on clothing.As a matter of fact I've never been able to spend almost any money on clothes. When I was in High School, I had 3 pairs of jeans, the only way I got a new pair was if one of them got worn out.
The reason I have a tie on is because that is culled from a photo that was made for the church directory.
I almost did make this a hot or not.
At this point it would take at least $1000 to update/expand my wardrobe and I can barely keep food in the pantry. Also, what's the point of having a ton of clothes that you'll never wear? In a few days/weeks I intend to have a job of some sort to finally take the pressure off my parents and I will be working full time(40+ hours per week) and then when summer semester rolls around I will be adding a couple of classes and all that goes with it to the schedule, and once that happens I won't have time or inclination to have a lot of clothes that I can't go to work in.
Also, me and parties don't mix(I've an IQ of 140, but I'm a complete dunce in social situations, I'm too opinionated), not that I'd ever get invited anyway. No one has ever wanted to be around me unless they had something to gain from it. And I mean this, when I say no one in all of my 26 years has ever wanted to be around me just cause they wanted to be around me.
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Damn...
Dude i passed through a situation like yours for years (not that i'm much better now but people stopped avoiding me :p), what you really need is just a break.
Save some money and try going somewhere else (the farther the better) for at least a few days.
You'll get to know someone for sure, it will open your mind a lot and you'll end getting fun.
There's someplace you'd like to visit, no?
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Originally posted by Liberator
Also, me and parties don't mix(I've an IQ of 140, but I'm a complete dunce in social situations, I'm too opinionated), not that I'd ever get invited anyway. No one has ever wanted to be around me unless they had something to gain from it. And I mean this, when I say no one in all of my 26 years has ever wanted to be around me just cause they wanted to be around me.
If your starting a new job thats a good opertunity. Find out if there is anybody your age at work, and see what they do in their social time. You should atleast be able to start a conversation with them about something work related, just keep it light, ask what they did at the weekend, etc. Get used to socialising with people, maybe just watching a film and having a beer, don't have to go out to nightclubs/partys.
Even if you just hang about with guys, they are bound to have a few friends who are girls, who you can atleast get used to talking to.
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Originally posted by mitac
There's a difference in expanding a stock of decent clothing and building a new one.
Let see, a couple jeans, some tshirts, some pants, can't be much more expensive. I don't count shoes and stuff, of course.
Originally posted by Tiara
(http://www.coopstuff.com/Graphics/Sketch01/01-trina-funny.jpg)
laughing boy? No, rather laughing man :p
(http://www.x-paste.de/laughing_man_elmex.png)
If you don't get it, too bad :p
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No GitS: Stand Alone Complex here please. Get your own thread.
On topic, where do you suggest I go? I don't currently have a job, and when I do get one, it's probably not going to be of the kind that I can just call in and say, "Hey! I'm going on walkabout for a few days or a week. I'll let you know when I'm available again." I'd get laughed at and fired.
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Hey, you'll have a few free days per year, right?
You don't get much of those in the US but you eventually can...
You don't have to get out for a month, a week is enough if you plan it well...
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you know, i'm amazed that a thread originally addressed to the less than 1% of female members on this board managed to extend for four pages. anyway.
what's with all the things about church-dress? anyone want to know what _i_ wear to church? a typical outfit: denim skirt, above the knee but not exactly mini, singlet top, maybe a jacket if it's cool. that's nowhere near formal, okay, i've actually ushered for the service dressed like that.
lib: you're not hot, but you're not not hot either. it's not important anyway, i mean you're a Christian guy, if you looking for girls they'd know, the Christian ones at least, it's not what you look like that matters all that much. but if you feel bad about it... how much does a new shirt cost? you don't have to get a new wardrobe all at once, just get it in bits. and be opinionated, what's wrong with that? who wants a doormat anyway? submission's all well and good, but that doesn't mean you let peole get away with being wrong, you just have to argue nicely.
and last thing, get some female friends. it's healthy. i hang around with the guys at my church. it's not like you have to ask people out if you hang with them.
wait, this really _is_ the last thing. doesn't your church hold social event thingies?
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Originally posted by icespeed
lib: you're not hot, but you're not not hot either. it's not important anyway, i mean you're a Christian guy, if you looking for girls they'd know, the Christian ones at least, it's not what you look like that matters all that much.
Mmh, pfff, I have to meet you one day, and we'd see if you'd spit on a non-christian guy :p
edit: snip, no, that doesn't raise questions, forgot I already asked that once :nervous:
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:wtf: and :confused: @ Venom's post
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Yeah, yeah, don't pay attention.
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That's O.K., Venico[/b]m... we understand you can't help being you. :p
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Venicom[/i] [/B]
I'm really starting to regret that nick change :p
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Venicom...sounds like a cell phone corporation.
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Originally posted by Nico
I'm really starting to regret that nick change :p
I can change it back, but then I'd just have to put "Nico" as your title so as not to completely confuse the poor n00bs. :p
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Why? You don't like the n00bs being confused? :p
I think that's impossible anyway, venom has been taken again since them iirc.
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Originally posted by Liberator
On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the hottest guy in the world and 1 being...well, you thing of something.
How attractive am I?
(http://www.geocities.com/lorzon1/liberator.jpg)
Well.. I'm not a lady (last time i checked) but gotta answer. Don't worry Lib. I've seen people who are so butt-ugly that they should be taken behind the house to get shot. You are not in this category :)
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Originally posted by Primus
Well.. I'm not a lady (last time i checked) but gotta answer. Don't worry Lib. I've seen people who are so butt-ugly that they should be taken behind the house to get shot.
I'd say better: I've seen the same as you say, and I've seen them with girls so hot you wouldn't believe it. And, before you ask, the girls were not stupid either.
That said, I guess hot but stupid girls would not go for a guy who's not at least good looking. Well, that comes from my limited knowledge on female's psychology, so I could be wrong, but I do think I'm probably not.
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Two words: Stop trying.
It works.
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Superficial girls will just refuse having any kind of contact with anyone under their standards...
And the f*cking TV is setting them higher and higher not to mention brainwashing all the teens...
Aside from that kind of people (you'll meet plenty of those everywhere, so keep trying) try to be not too shy.
If we can't compete with the TV models it doesn't mean there are other ways...
Make your own style, not only meant as dressing and appearance, but also in how you act and speak.
Find some distinctive quality you have in your character and develop it.
For example i'm worth jack in almost everything not geekish but i happen to have some more common sense than most of my peers, giving me a "yoda sage aura" joint with the fact i like to listen more than talk :p
True, i wouldn't be the first choice (or even the second :p) for many girls but i aim for quality rather than quantity.
All you need after that is to make decent conversation and some good humor.
That'll do miracles for you ;)
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My advice would be:
1º-Stop going to church. I´m not saying you should stop being a christian, i just say that you need to see new horizons, and church is pretty much in the way of that.
2º-Start getting out at night, go to a pub or disco, listen to music and drink some beer.
3º-Stop paying attention to what jerks like George W. Bush and Rush Limbaugh say.
4º Lose the Sunday church christian outfits. Burn the closet in your backyard, and buy new clothes. Just remember to leave your parents home when you do.
5º Lose some weight, let your hair grow, and get a new hair style. The christian look doesn´t cut it. Get contact lenses and lose the glasses.
6º Make new friends. If you do nº2 often enough, you are bound to meet new people. Once you have new friends, dating gets a lot easier.
7º Get a drivers license, buy a car, and get out more. Forget about staying home night after night sitting in front of your computer screen.
8º Get a tattoo, an earring, a piercing, whatever. You need to be more "rebel without a cause" in your attitude. Doing either of those things would show your parents you need change in your life. It´s not about the tattoo, or the ear ring, per se. It´s about you doing what you feel confortable with, and not what your parents want you to. From what i´ve gathered, that´s your biggest problem. You have to convince your parents to leave you be, and do what YOU want to do. As soon as you start feeling confortable with who you really are, things will get easier.
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Swamp, your cause may be good, but if that's just not what he is or wants to be, then it's no use. You don't become a 'hippie' over night, and in particular not because some guy on the web told you to do so.
Though I think Lib's got an impression on what could help. ;)
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Originally posted by Swamp_Thing
My advice would be:
1º-Stop going to church. I´m not saying you should stop being a christian, i just say that you need to see new horizons, and church is pretty much in the way of that.
2º-Start getting out at night, go to a pub or disco, listen to music and drink some beer.
3º-Stop paying attention to what jerks like George W. Bush and Rush Limbaugh say.
Pfaaa, bull****.
-I don't see why spending an hour at the church would prevent him from doing anything else.
-You don't make ( good ) friends in a pub or a disco if you don't come with other friends who will introduce you to other people. You get friends in your close surroundings first.
-Why, he has the hobbies he wants.
4º Lose the Sunday church christian outfits. Burn the closet in your backyard, and buy new clothes. Just remember to leave your parents home when you do.
Yeah. I ignore the stupid parts, of course :p
5º Lose some weight, let your hair grow, and get a new hair style. The christian look doesn´t cut it. Get contact lenses and lose the glasses.
Yeah, tho the glasses aren't really a pb.
6º Make new friends. If you do nº2 often enough, you are bound to meet new people. Once you have new friends, dating gets a lot easier.
see comment about 2°
7º Get a drivers license, buy a car, and get out more. Forget about staying home night after night sitting in front of your computer screen.
Well, yeah, actually :p
8º Get a tattoo, an earring, a piercing, whatever. You need to be more "rebel without a cause" in your attitude. Doing either of those things would show your parents you need change in your life. It´s not about the tattoo, or the ear ring, per se. It´s about you doing what you feel confortable with, and not what your parents want you to.
Hmm, I think "WTF?" resumes it well. I mean, look at him. Changing his style doesn't mean he has to do stupid things. There's some things that you do, and things that you don't. No matter what Lib does, there will be things that won't do it for him, coz that's not his style. A piercing? Being casual doesn't mean going overboard. Perciengs are "cool", huh? No need for ****s like that. I think he considers all that seriously, don't start the silly jokes.
From what i´ve gathered, that´s your biggest problem. You have to convince your parents to leave you be, and do what YOU want to do. As soon as you start feeling confortable with who you really are, things will get easier. [/B]
I think he's old enough to handle his parents.
Lol, that was funny :D
The only thing libs needs, for now, imho, are two things:
1 ) he needs to feel more comfortable, yeah. He doesn't need to be told what he should wear, if he should get a nail in the nose or a rose on the left bottock, he just needs to try some stuff and see if he feels more comfortable in those.
2) he needs to be more loose on his opinions. If his real life chats goes like they go here, people will feel alienated coz even if he's entitled to his opinions, he insists to much on them ( see his opnion about non married women in that other thread ). If he talks like that IRL, well, yeah, people will feel antagonized, and will break away whenever they can.
Sorry to talk about you in the third person, Liberator, I went on and own thinking I was replying to Swamp Thing whereas I started writing what I was thinking almost right away.
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Originally posted by Swamp_Thing
Get contact lenses and lose the glasses.
I like guys with glasses. In certain cases anyway. It somehow adds a little bit of class to one's appearance. :) I know quite a lot of girls who share my opinion on this.
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I will say something very silly, but very, very true too, so please, please forgive me.
Glasses are cool, but, hem, when you're doing intimate things with people, you know ( :p ), they really, really spoil the fun coz you have to remove them and you see crap. And that REALLY sucks, so lenses are much better on that regard.
Stop gazing at me.
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Originally posted by Nico
I will say something very silly, but very, very true too, so please, please forgive me.
Glasses are cool, but, hem, when you're doing intimate things with people, you know ( :p ), they really, really spoil the fun coz you have to remove them and you see crap. And that REALLY sucks, so lenses are much better on that regard.
Stop gazing at me.
TCO wears glasses, so we know :p Though he can see just fine up close. His are not reading glasses so that's a plus :D
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What?! Ow, grow up and get a girlfriend before you look at me like that. ;)
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Giirrrrrrlllllzzzzzzzz......... :D
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1º-Stop going to church. I´m not saying you should stop being a christian, i just say that you need to see new horizons, and church is pretty much in the way of that.
You don't even have to do that, just stop making Church your life, and make it more as a suppelement.
2º-Start getting out at night, go to a pub or disco, listen to music and drink some beer.
Hell, just listen to music. Go out to a bar and sit around and look for ladies, what have you.
3º-Stop paying attention to what jerks like George W. Bush and Rush Limbaugh say.
You can do that, but if you really want to stay uninformed, keep it going like that. But be warned, you're really limiting your opurtunities (how the hell do you spell that word?).
4º Lose the Sunday church christian outfits. Burn the closet in your backyard, and buy new clothes. Just remember to leave your parents home when you do.
Yes, dear Gods in heaven, please do this.
5º Lose some weight, let your hair grow, and get a new hair style. The christian look doesn´t cut it. Get contact lenses and lose the glasses.
I personally think with about 20 pounds less you'd look like Gordon Freeman :D
6º Make new friends. If you do nº2 often enough, you are bound to meet new people. Once you have new friends, dating gets a lot easier.
Hell, if you're unsure about what to do, do what I do whenever I go to the states: see someone, walk up to them, say hi. That's all it takes.
7º Get a drivers license, buy a car, and get out more. Forget about staying home night after night sitting in front of your computer screen.
Hehe, I agree :)
8º Get a tattoo, an earring, a piercing, whatever. You need to be more "rebel without a cause" in your attitude. quote]
Sure, make him a cliche'. Honest to the Gods, I'm ready to shoot all those "punk" posers that don't have a real reason to be what they're trying to be.
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Sure, make him a cliche'. Honest to the Gods, I'm ready to shoot all those "punk" posers that don't have a real reason to be what they're trying to be.
Dude, a single small tattoo or earing doesn't make him a "punk" poser :p
That said, I hate earrings on guys. Any piercing really. :ick:
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I was referring to this line:
You need to be more "rebel without a cause" in your attitude.
Why does he have to be the ultra-lame and overused "rebel without a cause"?
Tattoos and piercings don't make him a "rebel without a cause," him actually being that does. However (no offense Lib), I just don't think that would ever be him.
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Originally posted by Tiara
What?! Ow, grow up and get a girlfriend before you look at me like that. ;)
I'm grown up enough :p
And if I don't have a girlfriend, it's coz I don't want to, for many reasons, but the one I like to give is that one:
I have many friends, surprisingly, many TRUE friends. And they've all had their shares of "love stories", to an extent that my surroundings seems to be a soap opera. And that led to an incredible number of small or larger crisis, JUST BECAUSE OF GIRLS, the ones where a guy beats up another, or the one where a guy threatens to jump from a bridge ( bloody idiot, never seen such a poser :p ) etc etc. From all those people I've known for, pfeww, 7 years now, there's only ONE couple left standing, every others crumbled after a while, even those you'd think they wouldn't ( last year, one of the two couple I had classified in the " ok, now that should be ok for them" category broke, to everybody's surprise, might I add ). During all those seven years, there was one guy, the only one, that didn't have any problem whatsoever, and that was me, and why? Coz I didn't run after girls. Let me tell you, I've had occasions, but I didn't take them. I think I'm quite good looking, and I also think my personality is good enough ( I'm not such a dick in real life ), to the point that I've been asked out by girls ( you gotta admit that doesn't happen that often, the girl asking the guy out ). Ok, in one occasion, I turned the girl down because of some misunderstanding while being all ready and happy to be with her , and I really really hated myself for that later on ( she's a cool girl ), but usually, I always see more bothers than benefits in being with someone.
I have an all made sentence when I'm being asked why I don't have a girlfriend: "too troublesome".
Don't take me wrong, I like girls, I'm friend with many girls, I don't look down on people who have girlfriends, I see all the good that can come from a relationship, etc etc, tho. But I don't feel pityful being alone, I feel quite comfy actually, so I keep it that way.
Voila :p
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I'm not reading that.
PARAGRAPHS ARE YOUR FRIEND!
:D:p
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Pah, I empty my poor heart before you, and you don't care? You monster! :D
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I read it. It's truly the most pornographic and violent thing I've ever read. Boobies go flying everywhere, things get put in places that I didn't know existed, truly, an exciting read. You should read it :p
I'm lying to make her read it, too...
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
I read it. It's truly the most pornographic and violent thing I've ever read. Boobies go flying everywhere, things get put in places that I didn't know existed, truly, an exciting read. You should read it :p[/size]
I can write that too if you want, you'd be shocked at my pornographic cult... imagination :p
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
I'm lying to make her read it, too...
A little tip;
If you lie, don't tell anyone that you're lying.
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If you lie, don't tell anyone that you're lying.
Duh :p
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Nico and Swamp thing, if im reading this right, please stop with the anti-christian remarks. You offending me.
Thank you.
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And who the **** are you?
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Originally posted by Charismatic
Nico and Swamp thing, if im reading this right, please stop with the anti-christian remarks. You offending me.
Thank you.
There's not a single anti-christian remark in any of my posts, so get offended all you want.
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The problem with clubs is they are noisy and very crowded and I would probably have a panic attack.
Even when I go to see a movie, I keep seeing images of either me getting blown through the window and all of a sudden I'm engaged in a Power Rangersesque brawl complete with 20 story battle robots or conversly me calling in a napalm strike...
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I ****ing despise clubs.
Pubs >>>>> Clubs
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Originally posted by Liberator
Even when I go to see a movie, I keep seeing images of either me getting blown through the window and all of a sudden I'm engaged in a Power Rangersesque brawl complete with 20 story battle robots or conversly me calling in a napalm strike...
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What.
The.
****?!?!
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Awesome.
Erm, anyway.
Best way to deal with any fear is to confront it. Go for it, my mate's bout the same size as you and his personality compensates for any lack of looks.
Also, if you want it bad enough - lose the excess weight.
Move along now.
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And remember, suicide is always an option :nod:.
It worked out real well for tons of people I know....err...'knew'.
And if you **** it up, the scars are a good way to get pity-sex.
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Originally posted by Liberator
Even when I go to see a movie, I keep seeing images of either me getting blown through the window and all of a sudden I'm engaged in a Power Rangersesque brawl complete with 20 story battle robots or conversly me calling in a napalm strike...
Thats concerning Just remember, the Power Rangers can't hurt you.
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They've got collosal death-machines and magic ninja powers. They can hurt whoever the **** they please.
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Lib, you need a suit.
I'm not kidding. Drop the 150-200 on a nice suit. It may seem like a lot, but the end result is worth it. ****ing chick magnet.
Go with black, maybe a blue shirt, and a tie. The wackier the tie, the better. Nothing pink or anything like that, but something that they'll want to look at more closely.
Also, listen to Tiara. She speaks the truth.
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A suit????
:wtf:
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I **** you not.
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Seriously, looking semi formal never hurt anyone. If anything it makes you look sophisticated and smart. I used to be one of the most akward people you could know but rececently (in the past month) I have been phasing out my old clothes (primarily Tshirts and khaki cargo pants that I have owned for over half a decade) to new Tshirts and a nice formal overshirt with nice jeans or pants of other colors.
My new clothes have done so much for my confidence.
If I can get a good picture of myself I will show you some before and after and I will show you how cheap and easy it is to get a new look.
Kohls is your friend. Some department stores actually can have great sales and you can get a nice shirt for relatively cheap.
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Originally posted by Liberator
Even when I go to see a movie, I keep seeing images of either me getting blown through the window and all of a sudden I'm engaged in a Power Rangersesque brawl complete with 20 story battle robots or conversly me calling in a napalm strike...
I've been pondering the last few hours how to explain that...
I would say that I have done an excellent job cauterizing the emotional parts of my psyche. I couldn't tell you what joy feels like, nor heart wrenching sorrow, nor pride in anything, not even happiness most of the time.
When the WTC went down, I wasn't like "Oh MY GOD!! THOSE PEOPLE!!!!!!!", I was like "Those buildings are coming down." an hour before it happened and when they did I was like "I was right". At both funerals for my grandfathers, I never shed a tear or even welled up inside. I don't even really know what love feels like because when I was younger I had to help my father do farming-type stuff in the field and I was thankful when it was done so I could go to my room and be somewhere where I could just be alone and not have my father preaching at me.
I only have 3 real emotional states, like I am now, a blazing rage that I can barely control(fortunately this one is quick to burn or I would likely have ended up putting people in the hospital), I'm talking so rage of a kind that causes you to "red out" and not remember what happened after you're vision cleared, and a quiet fear that causes me to retreat and withdraw into myself.
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jesus christ you're scary
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When the WTC went down, I wasn't like "Oh MY GOD!! THOSE PEOPLE!!!!!!!", I was like "Those buildings are coming down."
I was more:
"Hey, some guys were talking on the bus about some atta.....*sees CNN*.....BWUAHAHAAHAHAHA!"
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First point:
I am not anti-christian, nor have i said ANYTHING to give such an idea. What i DID say, was that Lib seems to be too hung up on christian life, and he needs to break out of it, if he wants to change. Right now he is in a daze, getting constantly bombarded by the christian ideals, where you dress like a geek, speak like a geek, act like a geek, and only meets other geeks.
There is nothing wrong with religion, but there is definitelly something very wrong with the right wing white christian fanatic american religion, that´s for sure. Does anyone think his political ideals and his christian lidentity are just coincidences? They are consequences of each other.
You can be a christian, without being a right-wing-white-christian-fanatic kind of christian, wich is what i think Liberator is right now. The thing is, is it by his own choice? Or parent pressure?
Regarding pearcings, tattoos, and all that, i thought i was being crystal clear, but apparently i was not. It´s not about the piercings or tattos, it´s about doing what one feels good doing. It could either be a tattoo, or wearing a pink dress with a tutu, it doesn´t matter. Tattoos were just an example. Liberator needs to start thinking by his own head, and not that of his parents and church "friends".
Lib, If you feel confortable going to church, keep doing that. But don´t do it just because others want you to. I was born in a similar environment, i went to church every sunday, i had my First Communion cerimony and went to sunday school every week untill i was 12. But then i grew a mind of my own, and decided church was not for me. Sure my mother put up a good fight, but she couldn´t stop me.
As for you feeling afraid by going to crowded places, you need to adress those issues before anything else. How do you expect to make friends if you are afraid to socialize with people? Try to set up an appointment with your doctor, he will point you the right way.
The final advice i have to give, is a touchy one. Some people will agree, others will think it´s BS.
Judging from what i´ve read about you, you are a virgin, right?
Perhaps you should consider hiring the services of a sex worker, you know what i mean? It would do wonders for your self-esteem, because you would get rid of that social stigma that virgin people carry around like a ton of bricks. I know it´s BS, but lots of people martyr themselfs about it. They can´t stop thinking about it, and feel ashamed of themselfs and of admiting that to other people. It´s a touchy subject. They start to think there is something wrong with them (like what you are doing now), they think women find him ugly, and they start to clam up and turn reclusive because of it.
And since the possibilities of you getting laid are slim right now (no offense meant), the other viable alternative is to pay for it. Millions have done it before, there is nothing to be ashamed of. There are even lots of parents who take their sons out to do it.
So, at least think about it.
I wonder how many of you will read all of this, and how many will start flamming out without even reading half of it...
:rolleyes:
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My advice:
Don't listen to Swamp_Thing. ;)
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BAHAHAHAHA.
That's the funniest thing I've read in a long while.
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*stares blankly at Swamp_Thing for long moments*
Encouraging felony convictions now, are we?
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Swamp_Thing, you could at least suggest him to go where that thing is legal...
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You guys gave him some good ideas, but with the wrong approach.
What it's needed as the very first thing is to find a way to decrease the environmental pressure that brought you there Lib.
Now, i don't know what are your options there but we can start with the simplest and most likely to be available there.
It seems that your two focal points right now are family and church.
First thing is familty:
You cannot start changing them (or at least remember them that you are 26 and can think without outside help) before having some room for yourself and an escape valve for that steam you pile on there (and causes you to be patience short, one can get only so much).
Here you can start with a small thing but that can help.
When you want to stay alone don't go into your room.
You know that you are still at hearshot and staying there isn't gonna do much.
Take a walk instead.
Choose the most calm path you know, possibly out town, and walk.
Doing it will help you in blowing out some steam and thinking clearly.
A bit of fresh air can do miracles when you need to think clearly,
plus some phisical activity won't hurt.
Second thing is church.
If you can't or don't want to change that side, that's fine.
But instead of passive acceptance try to look for some alternate ways there.
For example, here the various local churches (intended as aggregations of people that goes to the same phisical place) often offers some organized trips to various religion-related places, and usually the cost is ridicolously low for what's given.
Try to see if there's something similar there, if you find it the worst thing that can happen to you is to get bored but at least you got something different than you everyday's life.
These are also fine occasions to get a few friends and in your case they might be like-minded ones too so you should get along quite fine.
Once you've tasted a bit of independence things will be easier and spontaneous.
You can't change yourself in a few days, but with time you can get out of your (psicological) cage.
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Originally posted by Scorpius
Kohls is your friend. Some department stores actually can have great sales and you can get a nice shirt for relatively cheap.
Kohl's huh?
I refuse to pay $25.00 for a t-shirt and $40.00 for a pair of pants, not when I have a hard time meeting rent and keeping gas in my car(such as it is). I have a hard time justifying $35.00 for a pair of shoes when I've worn out a pair.
I don't have money now, and I never really have in the past.
You know what the single most expensive thing I've ever bought with my own money is? My Geforce 4 MX 420, it cost $100 when I bought it. I used to net $200 a week at Marvin's and literally have nothing to show for it except a damn cheap-ass video card. I was living at home with my parents and making 10,000 a year, I should at least have a newish car and not be using up my poor bomber....:sigh:
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Online shopping young man, it's saving me a packet.
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How can you say you have no friends, look how many damn people are on here and trying to help (well most).
Where are you from by the way?
If your really beat up about this crap though, I'd see either a close friend / relative / or doctor / psychologist.
But damn, 6 pages long. You can't say the whole worlds against you...