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Hosted Projects - FS2 Required => Inferno => Topic started by: Kie99 on January 27, 2005, 02:34:23 pm
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The Alpha 1 in FS1 said he expected the Shivans to come again, but not in his lifetime. If we gie him an age of say 22 then in Inferno he will be age ~92. It'd be cool if he turned out to be some Admiral of the EA.
Oh yeah and what hapened about the Vasudans in Sol. (The 4 Thoths and doubtless some others)
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Hehe:
"My name is Admiral Alpha 1. I'll brief you today"
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Well we could make up a name for him.
Admiral Kietotheworld has a nice ring to it....
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When does Inferno take place? I don't think it occurs any later than 2400. EDIT: Wait, it's FS1's Alpha 1. He's probably dead and gone by now.
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Kie, give it a rest.
And Wool, maybe, maybe not. Depends on how long he lives. The odds of him being anywhere near the front lines... very, very bad. Probably a war hero the EA trots out on special occasions if he's still alive.
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I don't see any evidence of genetic engineering to increase lifespans. There's only so much you can do with an organism that is only designed to live 40-45 years. He sure as hell won't be directing any fleets at his age.
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Woolie Wool, did I say he was leading a fleet? No.
I said that he might still be alive at 90+ and still be active. That takes some, not a lot, *some* advanced medical care, something the human race has probably managed in the, oh, 350-400 years we're talking about here...
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What do you think admirals do for a living? They lead fleets! A flagship is the ship an admiral leads the fleet from.
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EDIT: forget the other bit
Woolie, Moonsword never said that FS1 Alpha 1 would be Admiral, that was just me.
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Thanks, Kie.
@High Max: Interstellar travel, force shielding, etc.
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Kietotheworld, you have one SERIOUS flaw in your argument - it seems that you have completely left out the Capella incident. Wasn't that a reappearance of the Shivans as well?
It would've made more sense if Alpha 1 from the FS1 said that he wouldn't SEE Shivans in his lifetime, not that the Shivans won't come for Terran worlds.
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That's neither here nor there though. From the perspective of Alpha 1, Earth may well have been the last surviving Terran world, and so a reappearance of the Shivans through the non-existant nodes to earth would be after his lifetime. For all Earth could have known, the Shivans could have overwhelmed Terran space after the Lucifer was destroyed, as there was never any good indication of where they were coming from or how many ships were there. The return of the Shivans in FS2 is an event of which the FS1 Alpha 1 would have absolutely no knowledge.
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yeah... what he said.
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I think he is an a Admiral in the EA.After the destruction of the Lucifer he was celebrated like a hero.
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I think he crashed into some random asteroid during a standard patrol flight in Sol system some time after the destruction of the Lucifer.
Boom, there goes your hero. :p
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i think he finally came to the conclusion that life sucked and he wanted to end it
>_>
<_<
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Originally posted by mitac
I think he crashed into some random asteroid during a standard patrol flight in Sol system some time after the destruction of the Lucifer.
Boom, there goes your hero. :p
Or died in a collision with Alpha 2 :p
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Or crashed on earth after his fighters engines where damaged in the lucifers explosion.
Or he had enough of saving humanity, quit and raised a family.
Or.....
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Originally posted by Rampage
Kietotheworld, you have one SERIOUS flaw in your argument - it seems that you have completely left out the Capella incident. Wasn't that a reappearance of the Shivans as well?
It would've made more sense if Alpha 1 from the FS1 said that he wouldn't SEE Shivans in his lifetime, not that the Shivans won't come for Terran worlds.
you have a SERIOUS flaw in your brain and/or memory Alpha 1 said WE meaning the people in Sol. And as someone else (Moonsword IIRC) said FS1 Alpha 1 didn't know about the Capella incident.
It is entirely feasible that technology could have Advanced enough that Alpha 1 is an Admiral.
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If FS1 Alpha1 was admiral and commanded a capship there is no way in the universe GTVA could have stopped EA...
Though it would be interesting to see such a reincarnation...
*Meet Alpha1, the deadliest pilot ever born* :p
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Or better still Alpha 1 (fs1) versus Alpha 1 (fs2) in a fighter showdown.:eek:
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That would put jedis in a shame :p
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Alpha 1 (FS1) Vs. Alpha 1 (ST) Vs. Alpha 1 (FS2) Vs. Alpha 1 (Inferno)
:drevil:
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I say let him be the commander of the Nemesis.
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If Alpha 1 was 90, i hardly doubt that he'd be in the military any more. Unless he was cryogenically frozen...
GTA Command: Welcome back, Alpha 1!
Alpha 1: It's good to be back command.
GTA Command: Now, if you will, step onto that small square. A little to the left. Back a little. Good! Now stop right there.
Alpha 1: OK...
*Command guy presses a button*
*tank drops around the perimeter of the square, and Alpha 1 is frozen in side*
Command: Jeez, about time we got rid of that guy...
*command guy turns around*
Command: So, who's up for the strip club? My treat!
And by that point, Command guy would probably be shot. But for the purposes of this story, we'll say he survived until global warming unfroze Alpha 1 when he was delivered to Earth. THE END!
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I already got for him a part in my campaign... Which will be released in bundle with Duke Nukem Forever :p
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I get the feeling you're mocking me.. :( Think how much longer people live now than thy did 350 years ago.
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Originally posted by Woomeister
Or died in a collision with Alpha 2 :p
Now that is what I expect of Alpha 2. He's good at that. ;)
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Originally posted by kietotheworld
Alpha 1 (FS1) Vs. Alpha 1 (ST) Vs. Alpha 1 (FS2) Vs. Alpha 1 (Inferno)
:drevil:
alpha wing composed of all those alphas...
GAH! my left arm! the PAIN! THE PAAAAIN!
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The dirty secret of FS1 was that Alpha 1 was really Vasudan and would therefore live much longer...
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There's no real proof that Vasudans do live longer than Humans.
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alpha 1 is master chief lewl
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Blowing up my location? No **** :/
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Originally posted by High Max
Somehow, I got the feeling that the Nemesis will be destroyed in chapter 2 or 3.
No plans to so far.
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I think the FS1 Alpha one would win if they would use the same fighter, because he defeted the Shivans with far less advanced fighters than Alpha 1 form FS2 and fought the Shivans 3 times without shields.
:p And the FS1 one lost only Jumppoints while FS2 one lost a whole starsystem :p
That's something I don't like in FS2 they only ever talk of the Sol - Delta Serpentis node, never about the Deneb or Beta Aquile ones.
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Welcome to FS1 Interstellar Plot Holes 101. As far as FS2 is concerned, those nodes don't exist. On V's official maps, they don't exist. A lot of nodes only exist in FS1 command briefings.
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Originally posted by -Norbert-
I think the FS1 Alpha one would win if they would use the same fighter, because he defeted the Shivans with far less advanced fighters than Alpha 1 form FS2 and fought the Shivans 3 times without shields.
:p And the FS1 one lost only Jumppoints while FS2 one lost a whole starsystem :p
That's something I don't like in FS2 they only ever talk of the Sol - Delta Serpentis node, never about the Deneb or Beta Aquile ones.
"All the jump nodes to Sol were destroyed" <--From FS1 ending
In other words, the GTA blew up those nodes as well, possibly a lot earlier in the war, to keep the Shivans out.
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No, the GTVA didn't have the technology in FS1 to destabalize a node. Something about the Lucifer explosion destabelized the other nodes into Sol, or they never existed at all.
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I doubt it. From what I've seen, a big boom will collapse a node. The Lucifer collapsed the node by blowing up.
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Nope. There's more than one in one of the FS1 command briefings... which is, of course, at odds with every mention of Sol in FS2 and, I believe, in ST.
So what do we believe? The older source or the ones made after :V: released an official node map with only one sundered Sol node?
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Shouldn't only the newest information be considered as canon, since it's the unwritten canon law in sci-fi and other literature? Thus, the FS2 is the only "true" reference source we can use when discussing things like this.
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
I doubt it. From what I've seen, a big boom will collapse a node. The Lucifer collapsed the node by blowing up.
Yeah, but the Lucifer had five huge reactors that powered its flux cannons and shields, and were presumably more powerful than anything the GTA could have come up with. By the end of FS2, when the Bastion was deployed to destroy a node, command was not entirely sure that it would even work, and that was using a weapon (meson bombs) that had only recently been constructed. That leaves me to believe that the GTA couldn't have mustered sufficient explosive force to actually collapse a node.
As for the node(s) around sol, that's one point where canon pretty blatently conflicts. It wasn't a major plot element in FS1, while it did play a part in FS2 and Silent Threat, so we tend to take those as canon over the CB ani's from FS1.
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Originally posted by kietotheworld
... Vs. Alpha 1 (ST) ...
...who might be Bosch? (at least I got that impression)
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How about that:
There where 3 jump nodes in the first great war. The explosion of the Lucifer send out a kind of shockwave whithin the subspace that completely annihilated the Beta Aquile and Deneb nodes.
But the Delta Serpentis node, beeing in the "eye of the storm" wasn't completely destroyed, but only became too unstable to send ships or even messages through.
It may not be the truce, but it would fit in well ;)
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Does that have anything to do with this thread?
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We're participating in the time-honored HLP tradition of thread hijackage.
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or replying in the wrong thread Ngm1tr