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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Nico on January 27, 2005, 03:24:58 pm

Title: My stuff
Post by: Nico on January 27, 2005, 03:24:58 pm
Ok, I'm uploading the ezechiel to my brother's webspace. It will not stay there. So I'm asking for someone ( Bobboau maybe? ) to get it, fix what needs to be fixed ( glass cockpit maybe, etc ), add nav lights, etc etc, and then that someone ( HLP? ) uploads it somewhere where it will not be lost again. Once ( if ) this goes well, I plan on doing the same with a number of mods I've done and are presumably lost ( I assume nobody has gotten hold of the Brontes, for exemple, right? ).
Well, voila...
I'll post the link to the Zech  when it's completly uploaded.
Title: My stuff
Post by: Woolie Wool on January 27, 2005, 03:26:27 pm
I can upload it to my own webspace once I get it.

EDIT: Damn, that must be a slow server for an upload to take so long...
Title: My stuff
Post by: Nico on January 27, 2005, 03:35:19 pm
Voila, there's the thing:
http://www.cobraworld.net/nico/ezechiel.zip
Ask me if you want the tbl.

edit: no, I'm doing many things at the same time :p
Title: My stuff
Post by: Moonsword on January 27, 2005, 03:39:27 pm
*downloads*

*takes a look at the poly count*

*twitches*

Oh my god... that's gonna be a framerate hit...
Title: My stuff
Post by: Woolie Wool on January 27, 2005, 03:41:53 pm
Alternative link:
http://spaceforce.snohost.com/ezechiel.zip

I'll put up the Ezechiel's tbl entry from Starforce tomorrow (Venom uses it as an interceptor, but I use it as a heavy assault fighter).

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Originally posted by Moonsword
*downloads*

*takes a look at the poly count*

*twitches*

Oh my god... that's gonna be a framerate hit...


Captain HT&L will save the day...if your system's any good. What processor and video card do you have?
Title: My stuff
Post by: Nico on January 27, 2005, 03:51:41 pm
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Originally posted by Moonsword
*downloads*

*takes a look at the poly count*

*twitches*

Oh my god... that's gonna be a framerate hit...


Lod1 should appear very close, I set it at 25, in fact:
$Detail distance:            (0, 25, 50, 100)

Transition should still be ok, I remember spending some time on that, making sure it wasn't too noticeable while still being as close as possible. I've tried a mission with two dozens of them on my old rig ( an athlon 900 ) w/o any significative FPS drop.

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I'll put up the Ezechiel's tbl entry from Starforce tomorrow (Venom uses it as an interceptor, but I use it as a heavy assault fighter).

Well, technically, it's an heavy fighter with enough AB to reach a target quickly. Otherwise, it's heavier than a perseus in all aspects.
Title: My stuff
Post by: Woolie Wool on January 27, 2005, 03:54:17 pm
An Athlon 900? Damn, HT&L is pretty efficient.
Title: My stuff
Post by: Nico on January 27, 2005, 03:54:46 pm
Yeah, but my lods are too :p

So, people take a look at it and complete it, please... Won't post anything else until the thing is not fully tested and 100% certified :p
Title: My stuff
Post by: Woolie Wool on January 27, 2005, 03:58:04 pm
I'm probably going to use a setting like (100, 200, 300, 400) for Starforce.They're powerful fighters (but not as overwhelmingly uber as they were in OTT), so they're not going to be everywhere. I'd hate to be leading the bomber squadron attacking a ship guarded by 24 Ezechiels...;7
Title: My stuff
Post by: Nico on January 27, 2005, 04:05:33 pm
Well, I'd recommand trying the lowest settings first, see if  you're really not fine with them, coz there's really no point having the cockpit rendered that far away, for exemple.
Title: My stuff
Post by: Woolie Wool on January 27, 2005, 04:06:08 pm
I know that, but I want there to be a noticeable, dramatic difference between the standard and HTL models.
Title: My stuff
Post by: HotSnoJ on January 27, 2005, 04:32:18 pm
@woolie: tell if you'd like me to move the ship to another place so it doesn't take up you account space. :D
Title: My stuff
Post by: Woolie Wool on January 27, 2005, 04:36:11 pm
If you want to, go ahead.
Title: My stuff
Post by: HotSnoJ on January 27, 2005, 04:47:08 pm
http://snohost.com/ezechiel.zip
Title: My stuff
Post by: Nico on January 28, 2005, 08:11:14 pm
btw, I've checked the perseus, and the cockpit is screwy as hell, nobody up for fixing it?
Title: Re: My stuff
Post by: Nico on January 29, 2005, 09:11:26 am
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Originally posted by Nico
So I'm asking for someone  to get it, fix what needs to be fixed ( glass cockpit maybe, etc ), add nav lights, etc etc, and then that someone ( HLP? ) etc


Thanks people, I love you too :doubt:
Title: My stuff
Post by: Black Wolf on January 29, 2005, 10:00:41 am
Perhaps a more descriptive thread title would help get attention. For example:

"Oy, Bob (or whoever). Fix my high poly Ezechial!"
Title: My stuff
Post by: Admiral Nelson on January 29, 2005, 10:22:10 am
Perhaps Bobbau accepts bribes? :) How much to finish the Perseus, Ezechial and Orion? :)
Title: My stuff
Post by: Nico on January 29, 2005, 10:33:49 am
Well, I'm not really expecting Bob to do it since his computer is down :p
It's really just a matter of adding path and stuff, really...
Title: My stuff
Post by: StratComm on January 29, 2005, 12:52:17 pm
Just pathing?  I could probably do that.  My big limitation right now is that I have no means of converting a model once I get it ready.  I'll look in to it.
Title: My stuff
Post by: Bobboau on January 29, 2005, 08:22:09 pm
I'd help you out, but my computer died just when I ran out of enough cash to fix it.
Title: My stuff
Post by: Nico on January 30, 2005, 06:52:20 am
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Originally posted by StratComm
Just pathing?  I could probably do that.  My big limitation right now is that I have no means of converting a model once I get it ready.  I'll look in to it.


Actualy no, there's a couple annoying things that would require... well, some kind expertise, that I don't have: the insignias and crap make the ship see through. Annoying as hell.
Title: My stuff
Post by: StratComm on January 30, 2005, 12:42:43 pm
Ah, that.  Only shows up in OGL, so I didn't notice it off the bat.  Unfortunately I can't fix that, as it requires a mesh edit and is not something I can do in PCS.  If the scene file is still around, would it be possible to pull the two front plates out of the plates subobject and attach them to the hull as isolated polygons, and to make the insignias a specific subobject by themselves?
Title: My stuff
Post by: Nico on January 30, 2005, 07:25:27 pm
AAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. Now I understand why I didn't notice it before. I was using D3D before, and switched to OGL only because specular didn't show in D3D on my videocard ( you know, the "too up-to-date" catalyst thing ).
Title: My stuff
Post by: StratComm on January 31, 2005, 06:33:38 pm
Well, I've done what I can.  The pof still doesn't have glowpoints (other than the two green spots underneath, I didn't see where any would be appropriate anyway and I don't have any glows worthy of the model) but I have calculated nebula trails.  Here's a screen from OGL, to prove that the rendering order has been fixed up.  The trails are there for me to test alignment and have since been tweaked a little bit.
(http://www.duke.edu/~cek6/ezechiel_screen.jpg)

Nico, you have a table entry in mind for this?

Oh, and if you've got any other mods with similar alpha transparency effects to that '01' or insignia, don't delete the scenes.  There are a couple of conversion modifications that I had to make to the Ezechiel that took forever since I didn't have the original scene.
Title: My stuff
Post by: Nico on January 31, 2005, 08:09:46 pm
yeah, I have one, but people tend to never use the tbl I make when they use my ships, so there's no need posting it.
I usually just stress that the ezechiel is half way between the perseus and the erynies, basically, and heavier ( bit slower, less agile ) version of the perseus, but with very powerful AB, and thick hull and shields.

For glow points, well, guess small ones at the end of the two main wings and the two engine fins would be good, plus one under the nose maybe.

Anyway, thanks for your hard work, it's a pleasure to see that there's stll people willing to help here :)
Title: My stuff
Post by: StratComm on January 31, 2005, 08:28:33 pm
Eh, I was going to let you set the manufacturer and description at least, seeing as it is your model.  If you don't want to fill it in I'll probably give it a baseline description and everything so that it looks complete.
Title: My stuff
Post by: StratComm on January 31, 2005, 09:50:52 pm
Ok, here's as close as I can get to a finished product.  If anyone out there is good at shield ani's, please contact me and I'll send you a monochrome top-down render of the Ezechiel for you to make the interface out of.

URL Removed

Bob, I stole your glows off of the Herc, I hope you don't mind.  You're credited of course.  If there's a problem with that I'll pull the file.
Title: My stuff
Post by: Nico on February 01, 2005, 06:35:54 am
Well, here's the top of the tbl:

$Name:                          GTF Ezechiel C
$Short name:            TFight
$Species:                       Terran
+Type:                          XSTR("Space Superiority", 2939)
+Maneuverability:       XSTR("Good", 2940)
+Armor:                         XSTR("Heavy", 2941)
+Manufacturer:          XSTR("Senecal Hydrospace", 2942)
+Description:         XSTR( " ", 2943)
$end_multi_text
+Tech Description:
XSTR("The Ezechiel has been recently introduced as the next space superiority fighter to be assigned to the top squadrons of the GTVA. With its origins shrouded in mystery and it's impressive performances and weaponary, it's already a favourite among pilots, and is claimed as being the successfull child of a perseus and an erinyes.", 2944)
$end_multi_text
+Length:          19 m
+Gun Mounts:      8
+Missile Banks:   2

I should be able to get my hands on a shield icon from Woomeister.
Title: My stuff
Post by: Nico on February 01, 2005, 07:35:59 am
oh, btw, in the credits, conversion was done by Bobboau, iirc.
Title: My stuff
Post by: StratComm on February 01, 2005, 08:44:42 am
Done, credits and table updated.  If you get that shield icon, send it my way and I'll chuck it in too.  Thanks to the interface going to 3d in most other places, it should be the only thing I need.
Title: My stuff
Post by: StratComm on February 03, 2005, 11:59:53 am
Ok, finished it.  Get it here. (http://www.duke.edu/~cek6/GTFezechiel.zip)

And for the visually inclined, some more screens.
(http://www.duke.edu/~cek6/ezechielScreen0.jpg)

(http://www.duke.edu/~cek6/ezechielScreen1.jpg)

(http://www.duke.edu/~cek6/ezechielScreen2.jpg)

(http://www.duke.edu/~cek6/ezechielScreen3.jpg)

(http://www.duke.edu/~cek6/ezechielScreen4.jpg)

(http://www.duke.edu/~cek6/ezechielScreen5.jpg)
Title: My stuff
Post by: karajorma on February 03, 2005, 12:25:00 pm
Kick arse! :D
Title: My stuff
Post by: Janos on February 03, 2005, 02:39:46 pm
Well that looks Terran.

Sexcellent texture job also.
Title: My stuff
Post by: Setekh on February 03, 2005, 11:32:32 pm
Man, it looks so good in specular.
Title: My stuff
Post by: Psychonaut on February 05, 2005, 12:58:21 pm
Absolutely stunning. I´ve replaced the standard myrmidon with this one and it looks like a whole new game!!!
Title: My stuff
Post by: HotSnoJ on February 05, 2005, 03:18:45 pm
Snoj needs new shorts.
Title: My stuff
Post by: Roanoke on February 05, 2005, 03:22:54 pm
*waits for the Vampire*
Title: My stuff
Post by: Nico on February 07, 2005, 06:39:29 am
Well, fun's almost over. Starting new semester today, so I'm off for... a week then it's winter holydays ( lol :D ) for a week, so I'll try to finish the moloch then. After that, second semester really starts, so I won't be around much anymore, again. Voila, cya :p
Title: My stuff
Post by: Unknown Target on February 07, 2005, 12:06:11 pm
If you can't finish it in time, can you release it for someone else to finish it? :)
Title: My stuff
Post by: HotSnoJ on February 07, 2005, 03:39:10 pm
http://josherickson.org/file/ezechiel.zip It was so pretty I had to convert it to .blend. :D
(http://josherickson.org/images/ezechiel_0002.jpg)