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Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: supernova_989 on January 27, 2005, 03:42:58 pm
Huh? :sigh:
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Woolie Wool on January 27, 2005, 03:43:47 pm
It's not gonna happen.
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Fergus on January 27, 2005, 04:01:14 pm
Check out Kajormas guide and the fsdoc (wiki).  It is up there (points)

Yeah, the first one amongst that line, above the banner....there you go.

P.S. You will be flamed badly, but because I said that, you won't be flamed...or will you, perhaps it was a double bluff.  Ahhh, ya just don't know do you?
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: karajorma on January 27, 2005, 04:46:46 pm
Well it's a reasonably valid question and it's actually my FAQ that needs some updating to reflect the fact that Derek is no longer interested. :)
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: DaBrain on January 27, 2005, 05:30:37 pm
Where do we know that from?

Looks like I missed that part. I'm quite interested in the future of the license.
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: karajorma on January 27, 2005, 05:48:04 pm
From what I understood Derek Smart soured on the idea of making Freespace III soon after the whole big "let me piss off the entire community" thing blew over.

[V] also dropped a few hints themselves that they were still interested  but that THQ largely wasn't and that they may have a contract with Interplay giving them the rights to develop FS3 first.

Beyond that it's all pure speculation that most of us have heard a thousend times before and would probably not appreciate hearing again.
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Woolie Wool on January 27, 2005, 05:55:48 pm
I'm surprised Derek Smart didn't sue us or something for insulting him over and over (he actually does this). Maybe our Volition fanaticism broke his nerve.
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: TrashMan on January 27, 2005, 05:56:09 pm
Hey, I know someone here from the forums talks to some of the [V] guys sometimes..
Why not just ask them?
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Cobra on January 27, 2005, 06:29:09 pm
:nod:
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: IceFire on January 27, 2005, 06:35:21 pm
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
I'm surprised Derek Smart didn't sue us or something for insulting him over and over (he actually does this). Maybe our Volition fanaticism broke his nerve.

Maybe too multinational?  I don't know....he carried himself so badly here (and anywhere else it appears).  It was quite a catastrophy.
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: übermetroid on January 27, 2005, 08:56:23 pm
heheh....  Those were the days...  Going in HLP groups to other forums to bad mouth DS...  :D
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: StratComm on January 27, 2005, 09:01:39 pm
Uh, I really hope you are joking.  He's the last man alive we'd want to see making a Freespace game.

Google Derek Smart and see what you come up with, if for whatever reason you don't actually know who this guy is.
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: NGTM-1R on January 27, 2005, 09:03:10 pm
Dear god no. I don't want my FS ending up like Falcon 3.0 or EVEN more complicated then that. Which, judging from Battlecruiser, it would.
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: StratComm on January 27, 2005, 09:07:39 pm
Yeah I should know better, but your join date is late enough that you would have missed the DS uproar.  Which, by the way, we may want to stop spelling out, lest we raise the dead.
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Fractux on January 27, 2005, 09:12:56 pm
I was (well I'm still registered there) a members of the 3000ad BB on his site when I played BattleCruiser Millenium. Anyways, when this debacle got started, I was readin at Blues News, and some troll was posing as Derek and spouting about the ideas he had for FS3. His profile really looked legit, and the way he wrote seemed like it could have been DS.

Anyways, I had a gripe that I posted about a comment a saw saying mods would be killed [ http://www.3000ad.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=37;t=000352#000024], and then had DS feel insulted by it, which I had to explain wasn't the intention. Those boards are just tense. You have to "tread softly" because some of the regulars are willing to pounce on you when they get the chance (don't mean to offend any of them, but that's the way it feels. Just check out any time a newb posts a question)

I check back once in a while, but i will never honestly be duped by the hype. I like the concept, and I wish it could work. But in reality, it just doesn't work and once the novelty wears off the actual gameplay is not that fun. Not to mention having low AI fighter pilot jump straight to a station and get themselves blow away unless you micro manage them every second, or dock them before going into a hostile sector.

Enough for ranting. If DS has good ideas, they just don't always seem to play out as well as they are marketed. And you wonder how much the BC3K code can keep going through redevelopment. I understand he's an indie, and that there is a small staff working, but still.

I support his efforts, I just feel like the comminity over there kills the games. If 3000ad community was just 1/10 as open to newcomers and as patient with people, then they'd have a very lively fan base and I think some amazing things could happen.

Just my humble opinion. I mean look what everyone has accomplished here.

HLP is really a  gem.

Cheers!
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: MatthewPapa on January 27, 2005, 09:25:29 pm
I joined about an week or two before the whole incident started. I watched it unfold without really grasping the whole meaning of what was going on (because i was new here.) It was rather interesting to say the least....
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Eishtmo on January 27, 2005, 11:12:19 pm
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
I'm surprised Derek Smart didn't sue us or something for insulting him over and over (he actually does this). Maybe our Volition fanaticism broke his nerve.


Derek Smart actually carrying out one of his innane threats to sue?!  That's a laugh.

BTW, we weren't the only ones who didn't like the idea of him making FS3.  Nearly everyone (save for Smart fanboys, for the most part) thought it was a damn fool idea.  I think the combined ridicule of the entire gaming community was what brought it down.

Of course, we're assuming he did give up on it.  He might just be biding his time. . .

Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Cobra on January 28, 2005, 12:07:04 am
*the time comes* NOOOO!  this is the worst thing that has ever happened to us!!! *insert ominous music here*
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Black Wolf on January 28, 2005, 01:57:43 am
I just went down a winding path of links and basically it looks like he's probably going to be developing an entirely new sim based on his own IP (though I stopped before anything got confirmed - the sucking up got to be too much). :doubt:

Basically, I don't think he'll be worrying us again any time particularly soon.
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: TrashMan on January 28, 2005, 03:53:51 am
*victroy music from LOTR* Gandalf charges down with the HLPers and brings down Derek Smart and his cronies as the light breakes *victory music from LOTR*

*glorius angelic music* PRAISE BE THE HEAVENS AND THE MERCIFUL LORD! *glorious angelic music*
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Cabbie on January 28, 2005, 06:55:38 am
Thank god the good man has given up on the idea.
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Woolie Wool on January 28, 2005, 10:16:00 am
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Originally posted by Eishtmo


Derek Smart actually carrying out one of his innane threats to sue?!  That's a laugh.

BTW, we weren't the only ones who didn't like the idea of him making FS3.  Nearly everyone (save for Smart fanboys, for the most part) thought it was a damn fool idea.  I think the combined ridicule of the entire gaming community was what brought it down.

Of course, we're assuming he did give up on it.  He might just be biding his time. . .



Smart has fanboys?!?! What is the world coming to?
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Gloriano on January 28, 2005, 10:25:02 am
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Originally posted by ubermetroid
heheh....  Those were the days...  Going in HLP groups to other forums to bad mouth DS...  :D


Oh that was so great.:rolleyes:
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Woolie Wool on January 28, 2005, 10:31:48 am
He's a Derek Smart fan! Heretic! Burn him!:p
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Carl on January 28, 2005, 01:21:08 pm
Heretic can't burn him. he got banned for posting porn :D
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Woolie Wool on January 28, 2005, 01:26:50 pm
No, I was calling him a heretic, not addressing the admin of Warpstorm.
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Woolie Wool on January 28, 2005, 01:33:05 pm
--Oops. I clicked on the wrong BBS. I was going to post something at SB.com--

*waits for post deletion*
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Cobra on January 28, 2005, 02:53:23 pm
who's the fan? is it eishtmo? *runs at eishtmo with a 12-gauge and RPG*
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Woolie Wool on January 28, 2005, 03:03:55 pm
It's Holy Imperial Gloriano. You hold him down; I'll get a stake and some firewood.
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Liberator on January 28, 2005, 03:29:02 pm
Nah, just use the U.M.E.W.o.D!:D:lol:
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Woolie Wool on January 28, 2005, 03:30:54 pm
The what?
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Gloriano on January 28, 2005, 04:33:24 pm
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
He's a Derek Smart fan! Heretic! Burn him!:p


I haven't played, Derek's games since his first battlecruiser game. did come out and it sucked so i knew that DS will always do bad games

so when DS did make that thread in Avault i did get really good laugh some peoples in HLP did get that situiton too seriously
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Cobra on January 28, 2005, 05:14:49 pm
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
It's Holy Imperial Gloriano. You hold him down; I'll get a stake and some firewood.


OK. *drives chains to the ground and puts Holy Imperial Gloriano under the chains* I got the matches! :D
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Woolie Wool on January 28, 2005, 05:20:17 pm
*chains HIG to the stake, puts down the firewood, and lights a fire*
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: deep_eyes on January 28, 2005, 05:27:03 pm
at the rate the programing parts of our comunity is concerened, we can make our own bloody FS3. screw em if they dont wanna do it. (although the story would prob end up totally diffrent than that of the original design, but to hell with them!)
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Cobra on January 28, 2005, 05:52:35 pm
uh, you're kidding, right? you know how long it would take to make an FS3? besides, look at this (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,29720.0.html) thread.
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Lightspeed on January 28, 2005, 07:00:14 pm
What, you mean you didn't buy FS3 when it came out?
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Eishtmo on January 28, 2005, 07:12:27 pm
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Originally posted by Cobra
who's the fan? is it eishtmo? *runs at eishtmo with a 12-gauge and RPG*


*raises eyebrow*

*KABONG!*

Silly boy.

And yes, Smart does have fanboys.  Basically anyone registared at his boards, as those who do not worship Smart as the greatest game designer EVAR are instantly banned (no, I'm not making this up).

And Woolie, heretic isn't an admin at WS anymore.  He sold the site to HeX, remember?
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Cobra on January 28, 2005, 08:32:59 pm
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Originally posted by Lightspeed
What, you mean you didn't buy FS3 when it came out?


:nervous: it came out? i didn't know... :D
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Kie99 on January 29, 2005, 03:48:04 am
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Originally posted by Cobra


:nervous: it came out? i didn't know... :D


He's taking the piss
Title: PLEASE dont flame me but any News on Derick Smart and Freespace 3?
Post by: Fineus on January 29, 2005, 04:32:26 am
This looks like it's turning into a can 'o spam. I cast locked.