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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Deepblue on January 28, 2005, 01:56:24 am

Title: Agh!
Post by: Deepblue on January 28, 2005, 01:56:24 am: Info:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000285A1O/qid=1106894839/br=1-10/ref=br_lf_etk_ce_av__10//102-3937556-5509754?v=glance&s=electronics&n=516878

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00066EK3G/qid=1106897686/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1_etk-electronics/102-3937556-5509754?v=glance&s=electronics&n=172282

Which one!!!
The SanDisk costs less and gives me twice the memory, however I have an iRiver and know how great the sound quality is, but I am not sure about the sound quality of the SanDisk...
Title: Agh!
Post by: an0n on January 28, 2005, 02:02:17 am: Buy a ****in' iPod.
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Post by: Deepblue on January 28, 2005, 02:04:57 am: No, I don't need that much space.
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Post by: phatosealpha on January 28, 2005, 02:08:19 am: Do you ever use .OGGs? It looks like the sandisk can't do them but the iRiver can.
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Post by: Deepblue on January 28, 2005, 02:14:58 am: I can convert any file I need to, so thats probably not an issue. I'm just not sure about the Sandisk whereas I am sure about the iRiver.
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Post by: icespeed on January 28, 2005, 02:30:16 am: find a friend who has a sandisk and test it out for a few days.
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Post by: Knight Templar on January 28, 2005, 03:03:45 am: I've had IRiver for almost two years now and I must say that even though it's a flash-128, it still rocks.
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Post by: Nuke on January 28, 2005, 03:16:15 am: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
Buy a ****in' iPod.

indeed, just be sure to get the 40 gig
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Post by: beatspete on January 28, 2005, 03:24:16 am: I have this, about the same sort of thing:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002YC7H8/ref=pd_sbs_e_3/102-6706009-9413757?v=glance&s=electronics&n=172282
Does everthing these two do, same sort of price.

The only things i can really find wrong with it is that the interface is a bit confusing at first, and there isn't an option to make your own playlist. Its got all sorts of playlist options, random, repeat, random folder etc, but changing between albums can isn't as smooth as it could be, especially when you are in the middle of doing something. This is a bit of a pain, but my old mp3 player could only really hold 1 album, 512MB is a big jump up.

Other than that is does everything. Sound quality is great, but get a reasonable pair of headphones.
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Post by: Clave on January 28, 2005, 03:47:18 am: I have vote iPod too - there's enough varieties to find something you'll like :nod:
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Post by: Scuddie on January 28, 2005, 03:50:29 am: You're not one of those people who think compressed music should be 128kbps, do you? If not, 512MB wont hold ****. Get a device with a harddrive. 10 gig is a start, but not very good when you want to store multiple discographies.
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Post by: Liberator on January 28, 2005, 04:09:48 am: Based on looks alone, cause I read this at 4 am instead of sleeping, I would get the iRiver. It looks cooler and has more buttons and a nice backlit screen. ...good night
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Post by: Bobboau on January 28, 2005, 05:13:36 am: neither, get an MP3 compatable CD player.
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Post by: Sandwich on January 28, 2005, 05:15:51 am: *is a very happy iRiver SlimX owner*
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Post by: Scuddie on January 28, 2005, 05:32:06 am: Those things are expensive, unreliable, and crap quality. If you want to play MP3s, use an MP3 player. Not a CD player.
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Post by: Zarax on January 28, 2005, 05:36:15 am: Get a Creative player, i've found them pretty good for the cost (plus i've got a custom MVP edition :p)
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Post by: Setekh on January 28, 2005, 06:22:22 am: *pats his CD player and CD collection* We've got no fair use policy in Australia, so we can't legally make a copy of the music we own even just for personal use. I'll stick with my originals. ;)
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Post by: Grug on January 28, 2005, 06:59:21 am: lol. Yet Setekh so many people I know walk around with ipods.
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Post by: Flipside on January 28, 2005, 07:04:47 am: I saw a 128Mb MP3 player for £40 in Homebase the other day, was sorely tempted, since I don't really need that many tunes at one time, but I thought I'd hold out for a few months longer and wait till I can pick up at least 256Mb for that price :)
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Post by: Sandwich on January 28, 2005, 08:27:55 am: Quote
Originally posted by Scuddie
Those things are expensive, unreliable, and crap quality. If you want to play MP3s, use an MP3 player. Not a CD player.

:wtf:
Expensive: Perhaps, but still reasonable.
Unreliable: BS.
Crap Quality: Riiiiiight.... (http://images.google.com/images?q=slimx%20350&hl=en&lr=&safe=of**sa=N&tab=wi)

Or were you referring to something else completely?
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Post by: Deepblue on January 28, 2005, 11:47:44 am: Why does it have to be dead-even. Gah!
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Post by: Marauder on January 28, 2005, 06:24:07 pm: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
Buy a ****in' iPod.

Get an iPod shuffle, 120-240 songs! I'm gettin' one...but they're not in Canada yet.
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Post by: Unknown Target on January 28, 2005, 06:24:56 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Deepblue
No, I don't need that much space.

Then get a mini. It's 4 gigs.
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Post by: Corsair on January 28, 2005, 07:16:53 pm: Hooray for CDs!
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Post by: Deepblue on January 28, 2005, 08:59:19 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Marauder

Get an iPod shuffle, 120-240 songs! I'm gettin' one...but they're not in Canada yet.

I would get a shuffle but for the lack of screen and features (FM radio/voice record).

I will not get an Ipod because:

A. Expensive.
B. More space than I need.

I went ahead and got the iRiver via eBay. Got a nice deal too.
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Post by: Taristin on January 28, 2005, 09:35:22 pm: Why are you complaining about the space? You can always add more songs to the HDD as you get them, and not have to get rid of the originals... It's win-win. :wtf:
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Post by: Grey Wolf on January 28, 2005, 09:37:54 pm: I haven't bothered with an MP3 player. I just use my normal CD player when on the road, and my computer at home. Sadly, the newer MP3 players have more space than my computer...
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Post by: Taristin on January 28, 2005, 09:39:22 pm: I don't have a portable MP3 player, but my car stereo plays MP3 CD's. So I'm good. Since I can't really afford to be wearing headphones at work, or in Calc class.
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Post by: Deepblue on January 28, 2005, 09:46:11 pm: Read above post. They are pricey buggers.
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Post by: Taristin on January 28, 2005, 10:02:53 pm: I did. I asked why you were complaining about space, not if you thought it was expensive. :p
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Post by: Bobboau on January 28, 2005, 10:26:39 pm: like **** there expencive, I got one for fifty bucks half the price of an mp3 player that holds 1/4th as much music.
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Post by: Liberator on January 28, 2005, 11:38:32 pm: The iPod is, and always has been, about 1 thing: looking cool. Everything that Apple puts out is less about function, more about looks. Just like the rest of just about everything, which leaves me out in the cold...
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Post by: Scuddie on January 28, 2005, 11:47:02 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich

:wtf:
Expensive: Perhaps, but still reasonable.
Unreliable: BS.
Crap Quality: Riiiiiight.... (http://images.google.com/images?q=slimx%20350&hl=en&lr=&safe=of**sa=N&tab=wi)

Or were you referring to something else completely?
Crap quality, as in the way the player decodes/transmits audio. These things were meant to be CD players, but they have a very simple decoding algorithm that gives not-so-great output. Either that, or AudioVox makes the ****tiest audio hardware in the world, considering it wont take higher than 256kbps and it sounds like a truck ran over it. It's just like an AS SEEN ON TV product. It has the ability, yeah, but it doesnt do it well at all.
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Post by: Liberator on January 29, 2005, 01:20:18 am: Umm, AudioVox is famous for their low-end, so-so car stereos, why should their consumer electronics be any different?
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Post by: Scuddie on January 29, 2005, 01:28:46 am: OK, very well. Point withdrawn.
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Post by: Sandwich on January 29, 2005, 04:23:13 am: Quote
Originally posted by Scuddie
Crap quality, as in the way the player decodes/transmits audio. These things were meant to be CD players, but they have a very simple decoding algorithm that gives not-so-great output. Either that, or AudioVox makes the ****tiest audio hardware in the world, considering it wont take higher than 256kbps and it sounds like a truck ran over it. It's just like an AS SEEN ON TV product. It has the ability, yeah, but it doesnt do it well at all.

Who the heck was talking about an AudioVox?? I linked to the iRiver SlimX, which I own, and which rocks.
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Post by: Janos on January 29, 2005, 05:00:20 am: Quote
Originally posted by Zarax
Get a Creative player, i've found them pretty good for the cost (plus i've got a custom MVP edition :p)

I have a Creative Zen Micro player (5 gigs + FM), which is pretty good.
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Post by: Setekh on January 29, 2005, 07:23:04 am: Quote
Originally posted by Grug
lol. Yet Setekh so many people I know walk around with ipods.

I know, not that much of it is legal. ;)
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Post by: Singh on January 29, 2005, 07:35:40 am: got a cheap enya 128Mb player.....dont have that much music and it was dirt cheap, so it works out for me. Although now that Ive added some new acquisitions to my collection, I am running out of space :/
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Post by: Deepblue on January 29, 2005, 10:49:08 am: Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
like **** there expencive, I got one for fifty bucks half the price of an mp3 player that holds 1/4th as much music.

And Ipod? Probably not.
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Post by: Deepblue on January 29, 2005, 10:50:51 am: Quote
Originally posted by Setekh

I know, not that much of it is legal. ;)

All of my music is legal. I got a ton of these Sony Sonicstage download cards (and free movie downloads) at a fair I went to. Now I have a ton of downloads, but not much music I see worthwhile right now.

Edit: That reminds me, I have to go download some Gladiator tracks...
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Post by: vyper on January 29, 2005, 11:45:26 am: Holy ****, hardware support for Ogg. I never thought I'd see the day.

Nice :yes:
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Post by: Deepblue on January 29, 2005, 11:50:22 am: What are the advantages of OGG?
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Post by: Zarax on January 29, 2005, 12:03:02 pm: Better sound quality than MP3, but many implementations aren't really battery friendly.
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Post by: Sandwich on January 30, 2005, 12:40:20 am: Quote
Originally posted by vyper
Holy ****, hardware support for Ogg. I never thought I'd see the day.

Nice :yes:

Leave it to iRiver. :yes: I even have Snake on my SlimX discman's remote. :p
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Post by: Deepblue on January 30, 2005, 04:56:03 pm: Where can I get .OGG music files?
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Post by: Zarax on January 31, 2005, 02:18:22 am: Rip your CDs to WAV and then use an OGG encoder.
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Post by: Liberator on January 31, 2005, 07:37:43 am: dB PowerAmp is decent for that.
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Post by: Deepblue on January 31, 2005, 09:18:24 am: Ok, thanks.