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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: SuperCoolAl on February 01, 2005, 03:00:20 am
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I bought a joystick, and Freespace 1 came as part of the package. It totally blew me away. Incidentally, I never used the joystick for FS, I find the keyboard much easier. The only game I've ever used that joystick much with was X Wing Alliance (which FS pwns the s0x0rz + b0x0rz offz0rz).
The first system I ever played FS (and FS2) with was:
Pentium 2 233Mhz
64MB RAM
nVidia Riva 128 4MB
8Gb Hard Drive (partitioned into 4 partitions due to FAT16 space limit)
56k modem
In multiplayer games on FS2 I would finish loading (after about 3 minutes) and I would see the comments that everyone thought I was on a 386 (I even saw '086 more like!' once!).
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I founded a 20$ package of FS2 in local gameshop in 2002.
Then I found the FS1 in localPCstore where I went to upgrade my PC. A great coincidence.
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I played the FS1 demo a long, long time ago. But then I forgot totally about it.
Then i saw 3 cd's labelled Freespace 3 in a *cough* less than legitimate *cough* games store, and remembered playing FS1, so brought it thinking it was a good thing. Turned out to my surprise it wasnt FS3, but FS2 instead. But that didn't dissaud me, and BAM! I'm an addicted HLPer :D
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I got a gaming magazine which came with a booklet and CD of the 100 greatest games of all time (or something to that effect). The CD had demos of some of the games on it, and one of them happened to be FS2. The screenshot in the mag looked neat and I was a fan of Descent, so I had a look at it. Next thing I know I'm getting the last copy of some bargain games pack (Descent 3 and FS2), even though I already had two copies of Descent 3.
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Back in the day when I was eight and my family got its first computer, FreeSpace came with the computer (Windows 98, Pentium 3). For my tenth b-day, got FS2 in a nearby game shop. Unfortunately, I had messed up the colour scheme so that it was 16-bit (and FS2 wouldn't work), then uninstalled the game because mom kept complaining that if I wasn't using it, get rid of it.
Big mistake. When the PC got fixed the following year, I learned that the installation disk was mortally scratched, and voila, I never ever completed FS2. So... :(
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FS2 was also the first game I had that took over a gig of disk space.
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I got Freespace for my birthday, and I thought it was Wing Commander meets Descent (I liked Descent and WC then, still do). After playing it, I was hooked.
Freespace 2 came later, as a birthday present for a different year. The first one I got was damaged, and luckily there was a wall of FS2 in the shop, so my Dad exchanged it for another.
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Discovered it while looking at reviews of space sims on the net :)
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Me.... I was looking throught a local computer store and saw FS1 and thought it looked good.... Well I never looked back and didn't have to think twice about Silent Threat or FS2
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I played the FS1 demo back when I was just a wee lad, and eventually ended up forgetting the name.
Years later in '99, I was looking for a new game, and found Freespace 2 sitting on the shelf. Picked it up and been blasting shivans ever since.
But actually, about a year or two later in '00 or '01, I went to the states and went into a computer shop, looking for another new game. I loved FS2 so much, I found FS1 and bought it almost years after I bought the sequel to the first game! :D
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First time I played FS ever was when I got the OEM (Darkness Rising) version of Freespace 1 in the cd with some half-ass gaming "magazine". And they told it was full version :doubt: That was in '98 I think? Fortunately I finally got the full version (White Label) in November 2003.
FS2 (Gold edition) I got as a christmas present in...99/2000? Oh, those where the days :sigh: And I still have it, though the box has mysteriously dissappeared over the years...
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Ahh, i remember that day well...
I was in PC world, and saw it on one of the PC's. After a little bit of working out the controls and shooting at something, i ntoiced that the thing i was shooting at (another Apollo, and the only other thing on the map) was the same as my own. Realising i didn't know what was going on, i worked out how to quit the mission, then restarted. :)
I played through the training that day, and then spent the next year looking all over for it. :D
When i finally found it, i became addicted, and have been ever since :thepimp:
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I downloaded the FS2 demo and played it with my Pentium 166Mhz, 48 MB RAM, Voodoo2 8 MB system (worked pretty well). Later I downloaded the ripped version from somewhere.. And ever since I've been hooked. Now I have the ISOs, although I haven't yet burned them..
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Lets see, picked up FS1 and Silent Threat from Wal-Mart in 2001, I then played that game to death. Then I found the FS2 demo on the Silent Threat disk. I blew me and my cpu away. A year or so pasted and the only place I could find FS2 was off ebay fro like $40. Then 2 years ago, I found FS2 in a bargin bin at EB for $8. So I payed more for FS1 than FS2.:)
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It came free with my PC in '98.
Here's 2 horrible thoughts. I wasn't gonna buy FS2 because it was £30. I eventually did, and then I was gonna but silent threat for the same price a few months later :shaking:
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My copy of FS1 and Silent Threat were purchased at Fry's Electronics, where they were with the bargin stuff up at the counter, in mid-2002. To say I liked it was an understatement; it was a dramatic improvement from the Wing Commander games I'd played until then.
I actually didn't realize there was an FS2 for about another year, at which point I obtained it through means of somewhat questionable legality *coughkazaacough*. I didn't stumble in here until last September, having been content until then to screw around with single player and FRED2 on my own.
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Played FS1 demo. Bought FS1 for birthday. Played FS1. Bought FS2. Played FS2. Played FS1 multiplayer for nearly two years. FREDed for SoA, then temporarily worked for Inferno. Now working on own campaign. :D
There. My entire history with Freespace in several very short (and choppy) sentences.
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FS1 OEM (Full version, but no patching allowed) came with my parent's PC. To display the awesome power of a P3 500MHz processor. :nod:
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The very first time? the demo for it came one one of these CDs that my brother had been getting weekly or monthly or something from work which had demos of various recent games on them. One of the ones on the last CD he bought was FS1. He installed it, and tried to play it It looked cool, but was far too slow on the crappy computer of the time, so he deleted it. A couple of years later my parents decided to upgrade their comp and got a whole new one in one of those package deals, and FS2 OEM came with it. Played through that and got utterly hooked - the other games were in the mail within a week of completion, and I'd downloaded several camps off the net before they showed up.
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Mate got it from a uni lecturer, I then bought it after seeing it at his house, and thus...
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A friend of mine invited me over to play on his new PC and he had a demo of FS1.
When I got my own PC years later I went looking for games the day before it arrived. I saw FS2 on sale (big box edition) for £10 and remembered that I had enjoyed the demo of FS1 so I bought it.
So FS2 was the first game I ever installed on my PC and it's also been the first game I've installed on every single PC I've owned since :D
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Basically it's a long story, but knowing my abilities of telling a story, I think I will put it quick anyway:
A local game magazine named 'PC Guru' releases one full-version game monthly with the magazine itself. One of these games was FreeSpace 1. I tried it, being curious how does a non-SW simulator looks like. I do not know what impressed me on that game that forced me to try FS2, maybe the whole or the story? I do not know. Next year, I asked FreeSpace 2 for christmas and I got it. I immediately installed it and completed the campaign. At bearbaiting, I almost stopped, but somehow I thought it must be one of the last missions, so I regained some confidence and patience and completed Bearbaiting and then High Noon. It did not end. I became interested what might come after the Shivan command ship went down(I thought that Sathanas was the only one).
Strangely enough, I completed FS2 sooner than I did FS1. I do not remember the reason exactly. When I played FS1, I was a child aged 11 or even fewer, so when I got FS2 and completed it, I knew nothing about FS1's storyline(It is merely one more addition that I probably did not understand much of the brieifngs or I even did not read them).
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I browsed a Descent website, saw FreeSpace, and fell in love at first sight.
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Ahh, it was back when I still lived in the states, my friend was playing it, I was only, 5 or 6 and I saw blasting weird ships and seeing "BOGIE ON YOUR TAIL" "I CAN'T HOLD ON". I thought it was pretty cool, but I didn't get to play it :( I did get the name, "Freespace". I'm 12 now and I recently downloaded the HotU Version (I love that site, makes me recap all the games I missed), I dun really play the game after Bearbaiting and the fact I accidently deleted my save games :(
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Topace: You were 11 in 1998? :wtf: How old are you now, bro?
*edit* Checks TA's profile...
Oh..... Huh.
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The year was 1997, the month was December....the place was the PC Gamer website. They had a preview of a new space sim...I wasn't all that impressed originally...it looked almost as good as WC: Prophecy but that was about it.
Roll on February 1998 and I was hooked. New screen shots, new information, new V website, and I decided to make my own...FreeSpace Command. The days of such webmasters as Gowron, WildWolf, and others.
Beta tested the FS1 Demo, saw some neat stuff, found the game to be totally incredible and the music was really great too (mission 3: chaser). Away we went....
I really should reinstall FS1.
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Originally posted by Raa
Topace: You were 11 in 1998? :wtf: How old are you now, bro?
*edit* Checks TA's profile...
Oh..... Huh.
I don't know how old I was then, I only made a guess... maybe wrongly. Don't have a clue, really.
Yes, until March 21, 1998, I was 11. :)
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I found the FS1 demo on a cd from one of my dad's pc magazines (he'd just bought one, so he had a load of old mags kicking about). I played it, found it hard as hell (never played a game like it before) and eventually gave up on it (I kept getting killed by the Satis freighter). A year or so later, I was in Electronics Boutique (now Game) with a friend, and saw a copy of Freespace 2 on a shelf. The friend was looking for a new game to play (we'd just got through Half Life + expansions) and I recommended it to him on the strength of the FS1 demo. He wasn't convinced, but I said I'd buy it off him if he didn't like it.
Needless to say, we were very impressed by it. I got him to copy it for me, and played it several times before taking a look at the volitionwatch archives. That led me to HLP.
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Man from my church let me borrow Freespace 2 for a while (this was 5-6 years ago). After borrowing the game for two years he let me keep it. :p
Then a few months later I found Freespace 1 and Silent Threat in a store called Target.
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The words "Greatest Space sim EVER!!!!!!!!!" from one of my mates, who is usually rather sedated about games (he recently described Rome:Total War as "Really not that bad"). Picked it up in a White Label box with FS1 and 2, all along with Ground Control and GC:Dark Conspiracy, all for £10...one of the best buys that year.
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FS2 was in PCZone's top 5 space shooters so I bought it on a whim.
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My first space sim shooter I ever owned was TIE Fighter. Back, it was, I believe 2000 or 2001, I got this really kewl new computer (64 mb of RAM! An 8 mb ATI Video Card! A CELERON PROCESSOR!:eek2: ), and so, having heard of an updated win95 version of TIE Fighter, went out searching for it. Eventually I gave up looking for it, and went for X-Wing instead.
So this guy walks in, and sais, hey, I heard you were looking for X-Wing, I've got just the thing you need.
Naturally, it turns out, that the game he had wasn't infact X-Wing, but a, for me at least, an unknown space sim called Descent: Freespace.
I was hooked from the moment I clicked the moon-and-star icon.
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I was over at my dad's boss's house while they were having a talk, and I was 12. The boss's son (or nephew or something) showed me Freespace 1 on his laptop.
I was floored.
This was exactly -- ex-freaking-zactly -- what I had imagined space combat should be like, right down to the "artificial wormholes" all the ships used to get around in my made-up Lego fleet.
The guy said I could keep the game, since he wasn't playing it anymore. It was on a burned disc anyhow, and he could make more. (Wonder if that guy ever came back to FS...)
I knew FS2 had come out, but my attitude was "How can they possibly top FS1?" for a while. Eventually I caved and bought it in late 2000. :)
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Dad found the demo online(back in the days of 56k.. ew) and we bought it one day at Circuit City... then, when my dad was a well established member of SSC(his callsign was SSC-Taz), we found the FS2 demo and bought that when it came out...
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I downloaded the demos to FreeSpace 2 and Descent 3 one time. I though FreeSpace 2 was pretty cool, the nebula mission was super cool. The escort science ships one wasn't.
So couple years later, I was browsing these X-Wing Alliance forums and a topic was "What are some other space sims you play?" or something to that effect. One of them mentioned FreeSpace 2, and had a link to HotU. So I decided to go get the full version. Also I found the SCP almost right away as well, and surprisingly the SCP ran on my old P200 (no media VPs however). However I quickly got annoyed by the lack of voice files that made me press F4 every 5 seconds. I installed the Babylon Project afterwards and played that for awhile.
So I mentioned FS2 to one of my friends, and he said that his brother had a copy. I got him to let me borrow the game. I only got Disc 2 first as some sort of twisted joke. But he eventually gave me the other discs. Almost a year later, the discs are still "borrowed". ;)
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I saw Freespace round a friends house. I remember being amazed by the Engine Glows in Glide :)
I actually bought FS2 by mistake. I was in PC World and saw the name 'Freespace' on a game, so I bought it, I never even knew that Freespace 2 existed. You can imagine how blown away I was when I first saw Beam cannon in action, it was like nothing I'd ever experienced before :D
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It was 1998
I purchased my first PC
450 Mhz P4, 256 Mb of ram. It was BEAST at the time.
Had my computer for about a month and when i was throwing out the box I found an interesting CD at the bottom: the freespace 1 demo. I played and was hooked from the start. I had already beaten TIE fighter and X-Wing on my old mac so difficulty wasnt a problem. I could never get ahold of the full version until 2001. Once I got freespace 1 I wasnt even aware of freespace 2 until I went to :V:'s website. I then spent a good 2 years trying to aquire it until emule came along and all my problems were solved!
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Got FS1 in a magazine ( yup ). loved it, so I bought FS1+ST+FS2 ( +descent3 ) from a guy on ebay.
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I bought a Gravis Blackhawk joystick and FS1: Darkness Rising came with it. I loved it and played it over and over, but I had no idea the game didn't end after you capture the Taranis. Seemed like a great cliffhanger to me at the time.
Later on, I went off to Best Buy to Total Annihilation and I found it in a bargain bundle pack with Freespace 2 for $25. Played it, loved it, then went back and found FS1 about a year later to figure out what the hell happened between capturing the Taranis and the NTF.
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I've been a long-time Descent fan; I first played D2 at a friend's house, bought the Definitive Collection version of it, then got D3 in the same way. I remember seeing the FS2 ad on the D3 CD folder, but I couldn't make heads or tails of it. (Shivans...Vasudans...Terrans? :p) Anyway, at the same friend's house, I also saw a box that read "Descent: Freespace." Since it didn't seem to fit in at all with the Descent games I knew, I didn't really give it much thought; I though it was some strange variant. I actually can't recall where I first found out about it; I may have seen it in a store and read about it. Anyway, I either bought it or got it for a birthday. I was instantly hooked; the feeling of flying through space in a starfighter, blasting away at Shivans, was amazing, and the graphics blew me away. (Ooh...explosions :p)
Anyway, some time later, I saw another copy of FS, but this time it was bundled with Silent Threat; taking advantage of what might be a one-time opportunity, I picked up the second copy. I wasn't a huge fan of the main campaign (I was never able to beat the Hades until reading about the trick of hiding in the engine nacelles in a walkthrough), but the fan-made missions were awesome (the Destiny of Peace set was my favorite :D). The version of FS I had included a trailer for the second game, and I was blown away by the look of the nebular effects and beam cannons. (From the trailer, I had absolutely no idea of whose side the Colossus was on, and as for the Sathanas's red beam effect at the very end...I thought they were engines. :p) I did download and play the demo, which I thought had graphics ten times better than the original game. However, I was never able to find a copy in stores (this was within the past few years). I also stumbled across this site somehow, and I read as much about the game as possible. (I did have some elements of the game, like the Sathanes/Into the Lion's Den/the supernova spoiled for me, but I didn't really mind; I didn't think I'd ever get a copy.)
I was almost driven to try out eBay (even then I didn't/still don't really trust it) and bid the insane amounts that they were going for there, but I got in contact with a fellow Descenter who had a friend with a copy of the game. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to get me a copy. I had vaguely heard about the HOTU version, but I didn't really understand it, so I didn't look into it. To my utter joy and surprise, however, Interplay chose that time to release its 20th anniversary edition, and I took quick advantage of it. I was amazed the first time I played it, and the rest, as they say, is history. :)
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FS1 demo on PCGamer. Must've played it at least 20 times. "This is the GTC Orff, now on station." ;)
My friend bought me a copy of FS1. I just realized that i've never actually finished FS1. Got stuck on playing judas, and gave up (many years back...). Joined the vbb looking for some FRED help. Downloaded the FS2 demo after that. Was utterly blown away. (this was after FS2 was a year or so old). Saved up my allowance, and then bought FS2. Found HLP because 5th sun looked really cool.
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Hehe, I found HLP Through MT.
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Well, my story is rather lackluster, I suppose... :p
When I was a younger, I used to have a VERY active imagination. I'd combine ideas from Star Wars with Star Trek with Megaman and make up my own ship designs (This was way back at the age when I thought designing a ship slightly larger than the Millenium Falcon with 144 turbolasers was really cool. :p)
Anyway, sometime after that I spotted Freespace...and it struck me as being the *perfect* space simulator when I read the cover on the box in a local software store. So, at once, I...put it back on the shelf and decided to get the money to buy it.
Time passed.
Then, one day, at the same computer store, I spotted FS2 in the "New releases" section. Crap, I thought, there's already a second one and I haven't even bought the first. :p So I eventually bought Freespace and played it through, up 'til the mission where you had to defend the comm station. (The Hope, I think, jumps in and you have to defend it - then you can depart, or try and save the Faustus serving as a Comm center. I didn't realize you could depart until I talked with a friend who also played Freespace.)
I'd enjoyed FS1, so a while later I bought Freespace 2, beat it, got onto the VBB, and (after awhile again :p) finally beat FS1.
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I first got to play FS1 when it came on a PC Gamer disc, kinda liked it but didn't buy it. A bit later dad had bought a new computer and with it came a FS1 OEM on a DVD and I played through it a few times. First contact with FS2 was like FS1, on a PCG disc and I got the full game as a christmas gift a while later.
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I saw FS1 fisrst in a game magazine, but at that time I was full of prejudice and tought it will prolyl be a peace of crap, so alltough I had the demo, I didn't played it...untill one night, after an attack of acute boredom I finally decided to give it a try.
The next day I had FS1 installed on my PC. After Fs2 came out and I finished it, I browsed around and acicdently stumbled upon HLP and well...now I'm rooted here.:D
*booming narrator voice*
"Bound in this place untill the end of time and the Final Battle...erm..ups..wrong story"
but I don't mind
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I don't remember the initial details, but somehow or another I found out about Home of the Underdogs about 2 years ago. (Ahhh, the wonders of being a bored college student not wanting to do homework, and having a relatively highspeed internet connection).
Anyway, after about a month or so of browsing HotU, I decided to try to look for a space combat/sim game. (Still remember the good old days of Rebel Assault. That was a fun game.) HotU came up with 'Wing Commander This' and 'Wing Commander that' and 'Yet another Wing Commander'. Unfortunatly, or fortunatly as the case may be, those wing commanders either did not have downloads, or did not work on my computer. (P2-330, 128 MB ram, old graphics card...Wait! That sounds like what FS2 was designed for)
Then I happened across Freespace 2. 219 MB download? I don't care. Its 8 AM on a Saturday! I have the College's whole internet pipe at my disposal, because everyone else is asleep! Download took about an hour and a half. I uncompressed it, loaded it up, and it worked. So I started playing, and had my breath taken away on the second training mission, with a seemingly MASSIVE Arcadia-class installation hovering in the background, and that about 10 KM away. (I still like flying around that thing just for fun.) Needless to say, I did not accomplish much homework that weekend.
Finals week rolled around a couple of months later, and I regretfully needed to delete FS2, so I could actually get some studying done. Summer comes and goes, and in the middle of the fall semester, I decided to get FS2 again. But the download was gone! Something about Interplay releasing a 20th anniversary edition in the spring.
Over the summer of 2004, I decided to see if I could find FS2 anywhere else. Did some googling, and ended up at karajorma's Freespace Oracle website. That said HotU had a download. Skeptically I checked, but suspected that karajorma was an incompetant website maintainer who had not bothered to update his page in half a year or more. (If you read this, karajorma, I now know that you are not). But I follow the link, and the HotU download is back! "I don't care that this will take the whole day to download, but I'm getting it anyway, before the link goes away again!" And, going back to karajorma's site, which was now a lot nicer in my opinion, I see the link to the FTP site thread. Needless to say, I did a lot of downloading six months ago. But FS2 is not leaving my hard drive now, so long as the hard drive is functional. And it, along with all of the VP files, are now backed up on my Ipod. Its not getting lost again.
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PC Gamer had reviewed a game called "Descent: Freespace - The Great War". I looked at it in passing, never gave it much thought.
Two weeks later, I see the box on a shelf, open it up, and I see the size comparison between a Herc iirc, and a Typhon.
Immediate response: "I gotta get this game".
Fast-forward a bit to FS2. My dad picked it up off one of his friends from work. I have no money, so I watch him complete the Myrmidon training. Silent Threat is quickly snatched up from a Target shelf, and it's the only game I play for the next month and a half. I finally get FS2, spending the first four hours in the techroom :P
Surrender, Belisarius! remains one of the most memorable missions I have played in any game. Period. When I watched the Psamtik light up the Deimos I was floored.
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Well, introduction eh?
I was a long time descent fan, the name "Descent : freespace" mislead me and i looked at it a bit but frogot about it when i discovered it was not descent
around 4 or 5 years later (in grade 7) a friend starts raving about this game called freespace, i had frogotten about the first encounter by that time but for my birthday he baught me freespace.
Wow, awesome was i amazed. My first pilot name was
Jasonathonachrismustdiecat (the longest freespace allowed)
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I played demo of CFS (FS1) in 1998. It was from a local game magazine. I enyoed it much and played such two missons again and again.
I found FS2 in a local cheap bookstore (and CD shop) four years later. It was miracle because the game has never been officialy sold in the Czech Republic. I've paid only 99 CZK (~ $4 ).:lol:
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There was a review in the paper, showing the Hornet missiles in action. I think I was attracted due to the Robotech/Macross similarity, and so I asked my big sis to get a copy. Or at least I tried to, because I was too shy. In the end my sis got me the game, with me tagging behind. Lost that copy though :(
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Originally posted by varus
Skeptically I checked, but suspected that karajorma was an incompetant website maintainer who had not bothered to update his page in half a year or more. (If you read this, karajorma, I now know that you are not).
Actually I'd say that was kind of accurate actually :lol:
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Two weeks later, I see the box on a shelf, open it up, and I see the size comparison between a Herc iirc, and a Typhon.
It was a Medusa, IIRC. Even with -fov 0.35, fighters and cruisers look too large compared to caps. An Orion is 8 times as long as a Fenris and probably 40 times as large, but the Fenris looks around a third the length of an Orion unless they're practically touching each other. FS2 seems to render distances improperly.
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I bought a Logitech force feedback joystick in October 2004, with the intent of using it with my MS flightsimulator, but the FS2-Colossus DEMO came with it, so after finishing that I was compelled to buy the FS/FS2 package. Just completed FS2 today...:)
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
It was a Medusa, IIRC. Even with -fov 0.35, fighters and cruisers look too large compared to caps. An Orion is 8 times as long as a Fenris and probably 40 times as large, but the Fenris looks around a third the length of an Orion unless they're practically touching each other. FS2 seems to render distances improperly.
AT it looks like that is one thing tat not even SCP can (strangely) fix...
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It's called perspective. A cruiser does look tiny if you're viewing it from really far away, but thanks to the wide FOV that we're accustomed to, both ships are too small to really see by that point. But as far as the math is concerned, the line from the viewpoint to any point on a ship don't change at all regardless of FOV. A cruiser will obscure just as much of a capship with a 2 degree FOV as with a 180 degree one if viewed from the same location. This has been argued a thousand times, but you're misunderstanding the cause of the problem if you think it's somehow the fault of the game that things look that way. If the problem can be traced, it's probably that combat ranges are much smaller in FS than you'd see in any realistic scenario (it's actually one of the things that makes FS a fun game) and so you spend a lot of time up close to large ships where the wide-angle view takes its toll on perspective as you're used to it.
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And also the lack of stero vision makes us underestimate the distanes to, and thus the size of caps.
Has anyone played freespace wiht one of those stero vision thingamabobers?