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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Liberator on February 01, 2005, 06:52:02 pm

Title: Beyond Good and Evil
Post by: Liberator on February 01, 2005, 06:52:02 pm: I've been playing BG&E for the last week or so, and I'm stuck.

I'm in the Slaughterhouse and I need 2 square keys. Every FAQ in the universe says to get it from the 3rd robot in the same room. I've killed the damn thing 10 times and it just flashes the key being in a dark area and there is no key on the ground to pick up. Help!!!
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Post by: Eishtmo on February 01, 2005, 07:15:35 pm: I haven't played it in forever. I don't remember any of it being all that hard to figure out. Wish I could help you.
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Post by: Corsair on February 01, 2005, 07:41:53 pm: Just curious and I'm sorry I can't be helpful but what's BG&E?
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Post by: Ford Prefect on February 01, 2005, 08:05:37 pm: I thought this was going to be a thread about Nietzsche.
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Post by: Liberator on February 01, 2005, 08:15:31 pm: Beyond Good & Evil (http://beyondgoodevil.com/uk/intro.php)
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Post by: Rictor on February 01, 2005, 10:26:20 pm: Like Eishtmo, I would love to help you but I played it long enough ago to have forgotten these sorts of things.

Maybe if you could post a screenshot or something? I remember there being a few nasty places in the game like that and there's always a way, usually an obvious one.
Title: Beyond Good and Evil
Post by: Liberator on February 01, 2005, 10:56:59 pm: (http://www.geocities.com/lorzon1/BGE2.jpg)
I'm in this room in the Slaughterhouse. To the right, there is an alcove with a pearl(which I took) and an mdisk reader.

(http://www.geocities.com/lorzon1/BGE3.jpg)
I need 2 triangle keys to get through this door, of which I have one.

There is a button on the left side that opens the 3 panels in the ceiling and releases 3 "security" robots. They don't do much except roll around sometimes and basically make pests of themselves and they are accompanied by some annoyingly upbeat music. ALL the guides say that the second triangle key is dropped by the last robot of the first batch after it is destroyed, I've replayed that part several times and it doesn't drop.
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Post by: Rictor on February 01, 2005, 11:39:45 pm: oooh, now I remember!

Yeah, I had trouble here too. I think you have to get the electrcity going or something like that. I remember you have to push some things around, or pick up a spare part?. Just look around the room, and interact with whatever you can.

I also seem to recall there being several "batches" or robots, that just keep coming as you kill them. I think there are like 4 or 5 groups, and after you kill them ALL, then you get the key. At first, I though they respawned infintely, but it turns out there is actually an end, its just really hard to kill them all and stay alive.
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Post by: Liberator on February 01, 2005, 11:46:15 pm: Okay, I thought it was something like that, causes the key started to glow after a couple of batches.

I have to say, this is the best looking game in my library.
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Post by: Rictor on February 02, 2005, 07:19:33 am: I absolutely agree. Just being in the game world is fun by itself.
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Post by: pyro-manic on February 02, 2005, 01:20:09 pm: F**king brilliant game. Good choice Lib :)
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Post by: Dark_4ce on February 02, 2005, 01:28:02 pm: Huh... Never played it. I guess I'm going to have to now. :yes:
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Post by: pyro-manic on February 02, 2005, 01:37:40 pm: You won't regret it. You'll find it really cheap (nobody bought it when it came out, the fools), and it's beautifully realised. :nod:
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Post by: Rictor on February 02, 2005, 04:12:13 pm: Excellent. Another recruit for the True Path.

:cool: :cool:
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Post by: Nico on February 02, 2005, 04:22:11 pm: French game :D
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Post by: Omniscaper on February 02, 2005, 04:31:25 pm: I absolutely love this game. EVERYTHING Ubisoft makes is excellent. I can even get past my French politics hatred to enjoy their creative talents. VIVA LA FRANCE.

I haven't got that far yet. I don't even know how to get to the Slaughter house. That darn floaty robot keeps towing me away!
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Post by: Liberator on February 02, 2005, 04:43:38 pm: you need enough pearls to buy the big cannon at Mammago's
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Post by: Rictor on February 02, 2005, 04:45:18 pm: Actually, its French Canadian as far as I know..
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Post by: Liberator on February 02, 2005, 04:50:57 pm: It's German...or Dutch...alls I know is it's Spanish...:lol:

I got like a dozen languages with mine.
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Post by: Turnsky on February 02, 2005, 05:38:10 pm: there's a bug in the PC version that makes this a problem, the second square key just doesn't drop from where it is... the solution i can suggest is either finding a patch, or editing the savegame..
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Post by: Eishtmo on February 02, 2005, 07:03:37 pm: BTW Lib, take all those energy things (gives you the hearts) away from the other guy. He hardly ever gets hurt enough to need them. You do. Especially for the last boss of the game. Hoard them all.
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Post by: Rictor on February 02, 2005, 07:07:23 pm: Yeah, if its a legit version you could try patching it if it is indeed a bug.
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Post by: .::Tin Can::. on February 02, 2005, 07:43:14 pm: What would you by it for? The computer or the consoles, and if consoles then which one?
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Post by: Liberator on February 02, 2005, 07:47:52 pm: The bug went unaddressed in the patch according to my research. Ubisoft knows about it, but aren't going to do jack crap since only about 5% of the user base was affected. The alternative is to cheat and hack the saved games, give yourself 2 keys and then you only have to fight the robots once.

TC, I'd go for the console version(it's great on the pc, but it's really setup for consoles) and for which ever one you have.

Eishtmo, Double H or P'eyj?
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Post by: Eishtmo on February 04, 2005, 07:06:50 pm: Neither needs them at all. Load them up on Jade, by the end of the game you'll be all by yourself and it's a ***** to beat the game if you don't have all of them in your grubby hands.
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Post by: Rictor on February 04, 2005, 07:59:38 pm: Don't give it away. But needless to say, the end of the game is a ***** to beat.
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Post by: Flaser on February 05, 2005, 02:26:43 pm: It's not that hard, you just have to realize that at one point during the final encounter your controlls will be centrally mirrored.
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Post by: pyro-manic on February 05, 2005, 04:14:12 pm: It's still pretty damn tricky, especially if you don't instantly realise when everything changes, or how to do each bit. But yeah, you will need as much health as you can get... :nod: