Fun to shoot some people
Guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil
Originally posted by Jetmech Jr.
No. But if I did kill someone I strongly suspected of hanging black men for kicks, then yes I'd likely enjoy it.
EDIT: Let me clarify- No, I wouldn't enjoy it if someone just told that to me out of the blue. However, if there was more evidence to back up that statement, then yes, I'd likely enjoy killing whoever I strongly suspected of it.
Not just soldiers, either. If there was, say, a mob of civilians lynching people, then I'd likely enjoy it just as much.
I sound a bit like a psychopath, don't I?
Originally posted by vyper
Alright, to take us away from the Iraq context and speak more generically:
You were one of the soldiers who found Beslan concentration camp. You see everything there is to see there. You have your British rifle in hand, and find some German guards.
What do you do?
Originally posted by Gank
Well when you enjoy something its easier to do it no?
Originally posted by Gank
So if you're faced with a situation where its not clear whether you should shoot or not you'd be more inclined to pull the trigger.
Originally posted by Gank
Take the yahoos in the video above for example, they're breaking the geneva convention and enjoying it, and doing it with a camera pointed at them. And here you have a general condoning this.
Originally posted by Gank
Riight vyper, its the middle of a warzone, bullets are flying about the place and you know which ones are the real bad guys because they're swaggering around like they own the shop. Bollocks.
And omg kill the terrorists :rolleyes:
No, you have to be taught to like killing. Humans are the only animal that kills for sport (not out of necessity).
Originally posted by Ford Prefect
I entirely disagree. Lust for violence is one of the things that characterizes all animal behavior. "Killing for sport" is the term we apply to doing what comes naturally. Violence isn't supposed to be necessary because civilization strives to find a way around it, but in my view, our nature compels us to do what all animals do: Destroy what we don't like. We enjoy it because there is something extremely liberating about obeying primal urges; it's no different from having sex or eating when you're hungry.
Originally posted by TrashMan
Utter bull....
Animal don't "Destroy what they don't like". They destroy to eat and survive.
From the BBCs Horizon (http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2004/demonicapetrans.shtml)website
Prof RICHARD WRANGHAM (Harvard University): You get incredibly excited when you watch chimps hunting, and all the sympathy that otherwise one might expect to feel for the poor prey just goes out of the window because you identify so strongly with the chimpanzee. They are so intent and they are so excited, the passion that they feel is just so extraordinary. Then they settle down in to eating it and you have a time to reflect on, on what is actually happening. And you realise that this is a very extraordinary behaviour because there is far more meat eating going on in chimpanzees than there is in any other species of primate than humans.
NARRATOR: Goodall’s discovery was a revelation. But then she found out they did something else that was far more chilling, they killed their own kind. In the sixties the group that Goodall studied split in to two fractions, Kasakela & Kahama. The rivalry between the two turned in to a bloody civil war.
Prof RICHARD WRANGHAM: It was in January of 1974 that we first had this report of one of the males in Kahama, Hodi, being attacked by a group from Kasakela. He jumped out of the tree, he ran but they got him, somebody got a foot, somebody got a hand, they pinned him down and then they beat on top of him. The attack went on for more than five minutes and by the time they let him go you could hardly crawl away. And Hodi was never seen again.
NARRATOR: One by one the males in the Kasakela group killed every male and some of the females in their neighbouring group. Only a few years before the victims had been their constant companions. In total a third of all male deaths at Gombe were at the hands of other chimpanzees. Richard Wrangham’s student Martin Muller recently discovered how brutal chimpanzees could be.
Prof MARTIN MULLER (Michigan University): It was in August of 1988, so we were with our ten males and they were patrolling. We could hear them screaming and very excited, and we heard them pounding, it sounded like they were pounding on the ground. And we realised that, that our chimps were with a chimp from their neighbouring community that they had killed and the pounding that they were doing was on his body, they were still pounding on his chest, and it was horrific. The whole front of the, of the chimpanzee was covered with thirty or forty puncture wounds and lacerations, the, the ribs were sticking up out of the rib cage because they’d, they’d beaten on his chest so hard. They’d ripped his trachea out, they’d removed his testicles, they’d torn off toe nails and finger nails, and it was clear what had happened, was that some of the males had held him down while the others attacked.
NARRATOR: Slowly it dawned on scientists that chimpanzees were not like us just because they could think, reason and use tools. They were like us because they could be cruel.
Prof RICHARD WRANGHAM: There is a sense in which this looks sadistic, the, the joy, this is kind of hard to take you know because again it’s got horrible echoes of what happens with humans at times. The males who attack, they do seem to take a certain joy in the attack, their drinking of the blood sometimes, or the biting, gripping with the teeth of the skin on part of the arm and then rearing the head back and taking the skin with it and tearing it all the way around. They look as though they’re in a state of, of intense excitement and maybe joy.