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Title: Flipside Vs The Freespace Theme....
Post by: Flipside on February 06, 2005, 06:07:07 pm
Well, I've been working on music for the TVWP, and partly to help me come up with ideas and partly to get the damn FS2 theme out of my head, I finally decided to write something inspired by the FS Video music.

It's not identical, it's my own version, some of it is almost the same, other parts vastly different, and so far I've only got up to about halfway through the video, either way, I like the way things are going, so I thought I'd share with you ;)

http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/FSR.ogg

You'll need something that can play .ogg files, obviously ;)
Title: Flipside Vs The Freespace Theme....
Post by: karajorma on February 06, 2005, 06:14:56 pm
This should be impressive. Downloading.
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Post by: WMCoolmon on February 06, 2005, 06:18:42 pm
:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
Title: Flipside Vs The Freespace Theme....
Post by: karajorma on February 06, 2005, 06:52:28 pm
The change at the end just after the electric guitars is a bit too sudden for my liking but apart from that :yes:  :yes:  :yes:  :yes:  :yes:
Title: Flipside Vs The Freespace Theme....
Post by: Flipside on February 06, 2005, 07:22:50 pm
Glad you like :) The tune will carry on from that ending, I'll add an arpeggio that should lead down to the ending properly once I've figured out how to do my own version of the first part of the monologue music ;)

This may mean learning how to use a step-filter :nervous:
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Post by: WMCoolmon on February 06, 2005, 08:23:06 pm
What did you use to compose that btw?
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Post by: Falcon on February 06, 2005, 09:12:09 pm
I liked it :yes:
Title: Flipside Vs The Freespace Theme....
Post by: Flipside on February 06, 2005, 09:13:18 pm
That's done using Cubase, and mostly the Edirol Orchestral Softsynth. Though there is some work with the Strat, obviously, and NI Battery for the Drums :)

The only actual instruments I have access to atm are the guitar and a dumb Midi keyboard, so I have to use softsynths for everything. This piece took about 16-20 Hours in total before I was happy with it.

I've updated the file, btw, and added the arpeggio near the end. The thing is, [v] pulled a lot of tricks out the book, including mixing a 4/4 and a 3/4 melody at the same time, so let me know if this sounds better ;) It's always going to sound a little abrupt at the end, the same happens in the video, it fades to black, with those last bars and then starts a new track ;)

http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/FSR.ogg
Title: Flipside Vs The Freespace Theme....
Post by: Corsair on February 06, 2005, 10:22:31 pm
Any chance you could upload it as an mp3?
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Post by: Flipside on February 06, 2005, 10:25:11 pm
You know, were I not a person of a naturally sunny and optimistic outlook, I'd be narked that over 70 people have looked at this thread and only 4 have replied...:doubt:

Fortunately, I am a person of Sunny disposition, and therefore am narked because I suddenly realised the ending of the tune was a 5th below the final phrase, for those that care. For those that don't it means I did away with a lot of messiness at the end, and finished off the first half. :D

Updated.

Oh and Corsair, I'll try to get an mp3 up shortly :)
Title: Flipside Vs The Freespace Theme....
Post by: Flipside on February 06, 2005, 10:42:12 pm
http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/FSR.mp3
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Post by: redsniper on February 06, 2005, 11:09:38 pm
I like it. It captures the Freespace feel perfectly. :arr::yes:
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Post by: Knight Templar on February 07, 2005, 03:37:19 am
Can you give birth to my musically inclined children please?
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Post by: Gloriano on February 07, 2005, 09:10:23 am
Kickass really good work :yes:
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Post by: Kie99 on February 07, 2005, 09:29:57 am
:jaw: Woah, awesome!
Title: Flipside Vs The Freespace Theme....
Post by: pyro-manic on February 07, 2005, 09:42:39 am
Outstanding. :yes: It's too short though... :p
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Post by: Stunaep on February 07, 2005, 09:47:36 am
Wee! 'tis the intro theme! With a combination of FS1 soundtracks a bit. And stuff. Kickass
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Post by: mrduckman on February 07, 2005, 09:56:06 am
Nice "arreglo". :)
I don't know the translation for that word, applied to music that is...
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Post by: Corsair on February 07, 2005, 10:02:10 am
Thanks so much Flipside! I'm gonna listen to it as soon as I get out of class.
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Post by: Fergus on February 07, 2005, 10:14:11 am
Very good and in the right mood, always felt that big guitar solos didn't really suit Freespace combat.
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Post by: Lightspeed on February 07, 2005, 10:16:57 am
Oh yes, you're so going to love TVWP for the music alone. ;7
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Post by: vyper on February 07, 2005, 11:06:34 am
Nicely done.
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Post by: Black Wolf on February 07, 2005, 12:14:09 pm
w00t. I liked it as an independent piece, though TBH I never ran through the original FS2 music to remind myself for comparison.

'Tis good though. :nod:
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Post by: StratComm on February 07, 2005, 01:21:46 pm
Wow, I love it.  The guitar mixed in reminds me a bit of the Halo themes (a good thing) while still retaining the Freespace theme.  I fear I may listen to it on repeat for the rest of the afternoon ;)

Outstanding work.
Title: Flipside Vs The Freespace Theme....
Post by: Flipside on February 07, 2005, 01:31:24 pm
LOL Thanks a lot all :D

Well, the second half of it will be a lot harder to do technically, because it uses a lot more 'effects' like the wind in the desert etc, and that filtered synth sound, so I may leave that for a while, but I'm glad you enjoyed it so far :)

It's been a learning experience, I'll just say 12-beat triplets in 140bpm when the accent is changing between 1-3 bars depending on where in the tune you are is as unpleasant as it sounds :p
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Post by: Woolie Wool on February 07, 2005, 01:59:23 pm
I like it a lot, but it deviates too much from the musical style of the FS2 soundtrack. The electric guitars especially sound a little out of place.

Now, has anyone extracted the actual theme from the intro cutscene?
Title: Flipside Vs The Freespace Theme....
Post by: Flipside on February 07, 2005, 02:41:08 pm
hehehe Well, it would be impossible to get the original track off the video, too many sound effects, and of course, the monologue for the second half.

It'd be very difficult to recompose the complete original video score, the pedalling jumps around a lot (listen to the picked Orchestras in the background of the video).

However, if we ever get round to making an SCP Vid or the like, and music is needed, I'll have a go at it if wanted :)
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Post by: Corsair on February 07, 2005, 06:07:52 pm
Yo Flipside that is absolutely freakin' amazing. I love it! Make more! More I say!!
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Post by: StratComm on February 07, 2005, 06:16:42 pm
Yep, still listening to it :D
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Post by: Ghostavo on February 07, 2005, 07:48:16 pm
Excelent :)
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Post by: Nuclear1 on February 07, 2005, 08:27:14 pm
I got one thing to say to this.


:jaw:


Holy ****, dude. This is freaking awesome.

Don't be surprised if I start PMing you for music sometime soon. :D
Title: Flipside Vs The Freespace Theme....
Post by: Corhellion on February 08, 2005, 03:48:36 pm
Dude...omg...This rocks!

Make battle music dude...You've gotta make battle music!

(and maybe even enemy/friendly arrival music too...)
Title: Flipside Vs The Freespace Theme....
Post by: Andreas on February 08, 2005, 04:05:04 pm
Very impressive :D:yes:
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Post by: aldo_14 on February 08, 2005, 04:27:03 pm
:yes:
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Post by: Taristin on February 08, 2005, 04:26:44 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Corhellion
Dude...omg...This rocks!

Make battle music dude...You've gotta make battle music!

(and maybe even enemy/friendly arrival music too...)


He is...

for TVWP. :D

Edit:
Um... I'm posting in the past! Wee!

Now onto Aldo's post.
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Post by: Woolie Wool on February 08, 2005, 04:37:06 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Raa


He is...

for TVWP. :D

Edit:
Um... I'm posting in the past! Wee!

Now onto Aldo's post.


You have all these talented people and you never release screenshots. I want to know what the hell you've been doing all this time.
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Post by: Lightspeed on February 08, 2005, 07:38:33 pm
We've been..... plotting.
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Post by: Taristin on February 08, 2005, 07:39:11 pm
Not true. Swamp Thing is constantly releasing screenshots. :p
Title: Flipside Vs The Freespace Theme....
Post by: Woolie Wool on February 09, 2005, 11:43:31 am
Where?

(And since you're no longer using the old Mustang Alpha model, can we have it?)
Title: Flipside Vs The Freespace Theme....
Post by: Goober5000 on February 09, 2005, 04:24:45 pm
We're still using the Mustang Alpha ship.  Whether we upgrade the model doesn't change that.
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Post by: Taristin on February 09, 2005, 04:34:36 pm
What makes him think we're not using it? :wtf:  Hell, I've even done renders of it. :wtf:
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Post by: Woolie Wool on February 09, 2005, 04:37:53 pm
That's the new model. If neither the Enceladus or Mustang Alpha versions of the old model are released, it will just drop off the face of the earth like so many other good models have.
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Post by: Charismatic on February 12, 2005, 07:47:11 pm
Flipside, that was great! I love it. Make more.

Some comments:

-Guitar was aswem.
-More guitar time, longer.
-GUITAR, GUITAR!
-Still on repeat, and will be for some time..
-The drums at the end, maby extend that, or have a drum part like that somewhere in the beginning\middlde of One of your many songs. More drum time.. bass is good. lol.
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Post by: Taristin on February 12, 2005, 07:58:57 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Woolie Wool
That's the new model. If neither the Enceladus or Mustang Alpha versions of the old model are released, it will just drop off the face of the earth like so many other good models have.



Umm. No.

No it is not a new model. It has alterred maps, but it is in no way a new model. (Although I really hate how horribly hackish the ship is, and may just be forced to make a new one, some day)
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Post by: aldo_14 on February 13, 2005, 07:00:40 am
Quote
Originally posted by Raa



Umm. No.

No it is not a new model. It has alterred maps, but it is in no way a new model. (Although I really hate how horribly hackish the ship is, and may just be forced to make a new one, some day)


Welcome to my world.
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Post by: Nico on February 13, 2005, 07:35:54 am
Neat.
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Post by: Turambar on February 13, 2005, 12:04:39 pm
i like it, until the ending.
Title: Flipside Vs The Freespace Theme....
Post by: aldo_14 on February 13, 2005, 02:07:49 pm
Upon further listening, I think this is actually better than the FS2 intro music.

Then again, I am a sucker for a good riff :D
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Post by: Charismatic on February 13, 2005, 03:09:58 pm
lol. yeah, it compares with the origional Fs2 music. As good as it or almost better.
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Post by: Flipside on February 13, 2005, 04:13:03 pm
LOL Well, I'm glad your all enjoying it. Thanks for the comments! :)

Funny thing is, the more I listen to that last section, the more I think I was subliminally inspired by Live and Let Die ;)
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Post by: karajorma on February 13, 2005, 04:35:02 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Flipside
Funny thing is, the more I listen to that last section, the more I think I was subliminally inspired by Live and Let Die ;)


Now you're ruined it for me :D
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Post by: Charismatic on February 18, 2005, 06:05:15 pm
Flipside, are you working on any other songs? Is any more done?
I liked that song so much i burned it to CD. LOL! Portable FS2 music.. good.

Btw, can anyone give me a link or post links to MP3 versions of the FS2 music, or high quality fs2 music? *From FS1\FS2*
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Post by: Flipside on February 18, 2005, 07:37:04 pm
Thanks :) I'm doing stuff for TVWP at the moment, but no doubt I'll be doing of my own stuff as well, so no doubt I'll post it here :D
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Post by: Charismatic on February 19, 2005, 03:47:01 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Charismatic
Btw, can anyone give me a link or post links to MP3 versions of the FS2 music, or high quality fs2 music? *From FS1\FS2*

Bump.
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Post by: Turambar on February 19, 2005, 03:59:37 pm
flipside do something about that ending, its too abrupt and doesnt fit with the rest of the piece, almost ruins it for me
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Post by: karajorma on February 19, 2005, 04:16:02 pm
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Originally posted by Charismatic

Bump.


Download the mv_music.vp and extract the .ogg files from there. Alternatively take a look in the download sections of HLP and VolitionWatch.
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Post by: KappaWing on February 20, 2005, 03:34:10 pm
Hey Flipside, mind if I use your tune in a project of mine? ;7
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Post by: Nuclear1 on February 20, 2005, 04:23:54 pm
*cough*PM*cough*
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Post by: Flipside on February 20, 2005, 05:29:15 pm
hehehe S'ok, I saw it :) And no, I don't mind in the slightest :)
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Post by: Charismatic on February 20, 2005, 06:27:51 pm
Flip, you got a release date, for the next tune?
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Post by: KappaWing on February 20, 2005, 07:21:10 pm
Thanks, man! :D :yes:

Quote

*cough*PM*cough*


Sorry. forgot about that little feature. :p
Title: Flipside Vs The Freespace Theme....
Post by: Flipside on February 21, 2005, 12:18:17 pm
No worries :)

I'll probably try and get some more stuff done this weekend, most of it'll be for the Terran Vasudan War, but I'm looking into working the Freespace 'theme' some more as practice in case we ever do this SCP Demo-video, so I'll probably keep people updated on that in this thread :)
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Post by: SadisticSid on February 21, 2005, 01:28:03 pm
I didn't like it to be honest. There just wasn't enough body to the music and it was too repetitive.
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Post by: Flipside on February 21, 2005, 01:40:47 pm
It's the Freespace theme, I shifted it a 6th up, but other than that, the melody is the same, Dm, DmDim7 etc, if anything the original Freespace theme uses more repeats of phrases than I do :)

I'll agree the ending still needs work, but I didn't compose the first 3/4 of it ;)

Edit : Trust me, if I had let myself have free reign, as I'm doing with it for a new version, It would be much darker ;)
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Post by: Flipside on February 22, 2005, 06:41:33 pm
http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/evacuation.mp3
http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/DarkestHour.mp3
http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/Knossos.mp3

My old ones.

http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/March2.mp3

Did this one a few months ago, pretty simplistic, but thought you'd like it :)
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Post by: WeatherOp on February 22, 2005, 06:45:44 pm
Hey Flip, your Darkest Hour link is broke.
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Post by: StratComm on February 22, 2005, 06:49:32 pm
Second link doesn't work, but the other two old ones, while being more techno than what I'm used to, are pretty good.  Not near the theme from earlier, but certainly good.

Are you writing in-game music too?  You know, with battle, arrival, success and death variants, and all that?
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Post by: Flipside on February 22, 2005, 07:00:22 pm
Oooops.... fixed :)

Yep, I'm trying to do arrivals, ambients, battle etc for TVWP, the works ;)
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Post by: karajorma on February 23, 2005, 02:46:34 pm
I'm sure I've already told you that I absolutely love Darkest Hour already :D

Well in case you'd forgotten, I do :D
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Post by: Charismatic on February 27, 2005, 03:26:33 am
Yeah most of them are good. I love darkest hour also.