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Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Deepblue on February 08, 2005, 10:04:06 am
Halo2 CE (http://www.halo2ce.epgservers.com/mod/)

Not the original but something to keep interest nonetheless...
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Deepblue on February 08, 2005, 10:11:20 am
(http://www.halo2ce.epgservers.com/images/mod/Zanzibar1.jpg)
(http://www.halo2ce.epgservers.com/images/mod/Zanzibar5.jpg)
(http://www.halo2ce.epgservers.com/images/mod/New%20Mombasa3.jpg)
(http://www.halo2ce.epgservers.com/images/mod/New%20Mombasa4.jpg)
(http://www.halo2ce.epgservers.com/images/mod/Miniship5.jpg)
(http://www.halo2ce.epgservers.com/images/mod/Forlorn3.jpg)
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Taristin on February 08, 2005, 10:22:10 am
Heh. it doesn't look nearly as good. :p
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Deepblue on February 08, 2005, 10:25:05 am
Not really... Because they can't make a new game engine can they?
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Tiara on February 08, 2005, 10:30:15 am
Those buildings, mountains and anything besides the player models and vehicles look like utter crap. Sorry, but Halo is simply a piece of gravely overhyped crap. Halo 2 is just the same. Sure, it's a fun game. But it barely passes as mediocre.

And I'm even a console gamer (just as much as I am a PC gamer).

Halo could've been so[/b] much more impressive graphic- AND gameplay-wise. While the X-Box is more powerfull then the PS2, I have yet to see any X-Box game come even close to games with graphic quality like FFX and FFX-2.

The Halo world (mission levels) isn't even nearly as grand and extensive as in FFX. Hell, it isn't even in the same league and yet they manage to produce a FAR more impressive game on an inferior console (spec-wise).

In short; Unless they begin showing FFX or better quality games (including halo 2) on the X-Box, Halo will remain nothing more then an overhyped myth.

Sorry, about the pessimism, but i hate it when stuff is so overhyped that it isn't even funny anymore. :ick:
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Deepblue on February 08, 2005, 10:32:50 am
Played Ninja Gaiden?
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Taristin on February 08, 2005, 10:34:46 am
Ninja Garden?

http://img.sheezyart.com/image/25/253840.jpg

Edit: Bah no hotlinking from sheezy...
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Hippo on February 08, 2005, 06:23:51 pm
I've been playing CE for months now... Hard to find a good server though, since most standalones rotate through maps, and you won't have one or two...
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Gloriano on February 09, 2005, 03:06:13 am
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In short; Unless they begin showing FFX or better quality games (including halo 2) on the X-Box, Halo will remain nothing more then an overhyped myth.


Have you seen Ninja Gaiden.?:p  that is most impressive in xbox and hardest too
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Turnsky on February 09, 2005, 04:43:28 am
*Feels the need to post this here* don't ask me why, though (http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2005-02-05)
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Tiara on February 09, 2005, 04:50:25 am
Yeah, but he loves fangirls :D
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Clave on February 09, 2005, 08:05:28 am
Halo 2 graphics aren't all that bad:

(http://www.altgame.net/life/0179.html)
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Deepblue on February 09, 2005, 11:24:49 am
Yeah, I'd say the red X is the best looking graphics any game could wish for.
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Deepblue on February 09, 2005, 11:42:50 am
Fear teh Elites!!!
(http://www.xfaktor.no/spill/halo2/bilder/bilde49.jpg)
Fear teh Spartans!!!
(http://www.xfaktor.no/spill/halo2/bilder/bilde52.jpg)
Blue pwns red.
(http://www.xfaktor.no/spill/halo2/bilder/bilde55.jpg)
The MC prepares to kill.
(http://www.xfaktor.no/spill/halo2/bilder/bilde54.jpg)
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Deepblue on February 09, 2005, 04:12:51 pm
So yeah, I would say those graphics are not that bad.
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Unknown Target on February 09, 2005, 04:19:23 pm
Still, Doom 3 tops.
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: aldo_14 on February 09, 2005, 04:24:18 pm
I prefer (playing) Half Life 2 to (screenshots of) Doom 3.... I know the latter is suppossed to be more technically acomplished, but HL2 has a real-world feel that has more of (IMO) an emotional impact.
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Deepblue on February 09, 2005, 04:45:02 pm
Does Doom 3 use the same physics engine as both H2 and HL2?
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Knight Templar on February 10, 2005, 12:46:27 am
Oh yeah... Halo CE.
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: WMCoolmon on February 10, 2005, 01:12:13 am
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Originally posted by Deepblue
Does Doom 3 use the same physics engine as both H2 and HL2?


Doesn't matter. It doesn't have the grav gun. :p
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Ghostavo on February 10, 2005, 01:15:20 am
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Originally posted by Deepblue
Does Doom 3 use the same physics engine as both H2 and HL2?


No... :wtf:
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Turnsky on February 10, 2005, 02:07:13 am
Doom3's physics engine is in house, HL2 uses Havok 2.0, Halo2 also uses a version of the havok physics engine, so does Max Payne 2, i might add.
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Deepblue on February 10, 2005, 12:04:05 pm
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon


Doesn't matter. It doesn't have the grav gun. :p


Halo 2 CE has a grav gun. Used for jumping really high or knocking things around.
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Deepblue on February 10, 2005, 12:04:05 pm
How the hell did that happen?
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Ransom on February 10, 2005, 12:40:34 pm
D3's unrealistic look is due to the actual textures and weirdness with all the overdone bumpmapping and things, not the engine. A friend of mine got HL2 textures and stuff and made a map in D3 with them, and it looked almost identical to HL2 except with dynamic shadows.

Also, the D3 expansion has a gravity gun in. Looks like HL2's gimmick has become an epidemic.
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Janos on February 10, 2005, 12:59:12 pm
HERE IS A SCREENSHOT OF DOOM3:













lol dark
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Ransom on February 10, 2005, 01:15:46 pm
*sigh*

The darkness of Doom 3 is there because it's kinda a horror game. It's supposed to be dark. Anyone who's actually tried to make a map for it would know there's an ambient light you can make which does not cast shadows. Make a big one and you don't have any hard black shadows anymore.

Edit: http://www.gamingforums.org/forum/files/hl2d35.jpg
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Turnsky on February 10, 2005, 05:16:55 pm
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Originally posted by Ransom Arceihn
*sigh*

The darkness of Doom 3 is there because it's kinda a horror game. It's supposed to be dark. Anyone who's actually tried to make a map for it would know there's an ambient light you can make which does not cast shadows. Make a big one and you don't have any hard black shadows anymore.



dude, the beginning of the game, is dark, it's not very well lit at all.

that said,  the specular mapping makes some parts of the game look...plastic.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/hungrywalls.jpg)
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Ransom on February 10, 2005, 05:23:05 pm
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Originally posted by Turnsky


dude, the beginning of the game, is dark, it's not very well lit at all.

that said,  the specular mapping makes some parts of the game look...plastic.

I'm aware of that. I'm pointing out that that's simply the fault of the map designers - the engine's perfectly capable of brightly lit environments, but being a horror game there was no call for them. And yeah, the textures look plasticky, but again, that's a problem with the textures themselves, and nothing at all to do with the engine.
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: aldo_14 on February 10, 2005, 05:33:32 pm
We evaluate games based on the game itself, not the potential of the technology behind it.
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Ransom on February 10, 2005, 05:35:27 pm
Well yeah. Doom 3 sucks. I'm just pointing out that its engine is just as capable of realistic stuff as Source.
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Turnsky on February 10, 2005, 05:53:36 pm
actually, doom3 's spec maps need work.. badly.. i know that d3 is capable of well lit enviroments..  but source's scalbility, and ability to run well on pratically any PC hardware config, makes it a winner
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Anaz on February 13, 2005, 09:28:39 pm
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Originally posted by Turnsky
actually, doom3 's spec maps need work.. badly.. i know that d3 is capable of well lit enviroments..  but source's scalbility, and ability to run well on pratically any PC hardware config, makes it a winner


and then there's steam :p
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Stryke 9 on February 14, 2005, 01:15:17 am
(http://myweb.accessus.net/~090/reviews/shaft1.jpg)
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Liberator on February 14, 2005, 01:22:04 am
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Originally posted by Anaz


and then there's steam :p


Which I'm afraid isn't dying...
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Turnsky on February 14, 2005, 01:54:13 am
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Originally posted by Anaz


and then there's steam :p


well, i said the engine holds great promise, not the mental giant who thought up steam. :p
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Liberator on February 14, 2005, 02:18:14 am
When  you put it that way, yeah, the engine in awesome.  Steam is why I won't ever play HL2, I'm not even going to DL the demo.
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: aldo_14 on February 14, 2005, 02:57:30 am
(http://www.aldo14.f2s.com/steaming.jpg)
Title: For those of you that hate consoles...
Post by: Deepblue on February 14, 2005, 11:23:35 am
:lol: