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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Liberator on February 14, 2005, 04:11:20 pm

Title: HOT DAMN!!!!!
Post by: Liberator on February 14, 2005, 04:11:20 pm
I just got off the phone with my *clears throat* boss and I start work tomorrow.:D :D :eek: :thepimp:
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Post by: Deepblue on February 14, 2005, 04:11:43 pm
Doing what.
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Post by: vyper on February 14, 2005, 04:11:50 pm
Congratulations.... doing what?
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Post by: pyro-manic on February 14, 2005, 04:13:47 pm
Well done. Feel better now? ;) What're you going to be doing?
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Post by: vyper on February 14, 2005, 04:18:07 pm
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Originally posted by pyro-manic
. Feel better now?  


STOP *SMACK* TEMPTING *SMACK* THE *SMACK* GODS!
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Post by: Rictor on February 14, 2005, 04:22:02 pm
Good jeoaerb there Lib.
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Post by: Liberator on February 14, 2005, 04:26:08 pm
I am going to be a salesman here (http://www.gigaparts.com/index.php).  We sell computers, amateur(HAM) radio's and the various components of both.
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Post by: pyro-manic on February 14, 2005, 04:32:17 pm
:yes: Nice.
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Post by: aldo_14 on February 14, 2005, 04:32:25 pm
Congrats.
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Post by: Clave on February 14, 2005, 05:23:09 pm
Work = money = new computer parts = happiness :nod:
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Post by: Liberator on February 14, 2005, 05:25:12 pm
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Originally posted by Clave
Work = money = new computer parts = happiness :nod:

:nod:
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Post by: icespeed on February 14, 2005, 05:39:51 pm
good on ya! see, God does like you after all. hope you have fun at work and also that you don't screw up on your first day or in fact on any of your other days. just remember that money is _not_ everything, but it is nice to have lots of.
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Post by: Clave on February 14, 2005, 05:41:35 pm
I have to buy double glazing soon, then my 'lots' will become 'next to nothing' :(
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Post by: Jetmech Jr. on February 14, 2005, 05:56:55 pm
...how much does it pay?

Good job, by the way.

Uh, I mean, Good on you, by the way.
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Post by: Corsair on February 14, 2005, 06:22:32 pm
Work = money = women = happiness.

I mean, what? ;)
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Post by: Setekh on February 14, 2005, 06:30:33 pm
Corsair... :p

Congrats on getting employed, Lib. :)
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Post by: Liberator on February 14, 2005, 06:44:56 pm
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Originally posted by Jetmech Jr.
...how much does it pay?


I'm going to start @ $7.00/hr, I should get a raise at 90 days and could be making as much as $10.00/hr by this time next year.
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Post by: Nuke on February 14, 2005, 07:35:02 pm
saslesman huh? congradulations, you now manufacture bull**** for a living :D

tertiary sector does the least work and gets the most cash, it should be destroyed!
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Post by: Ford Prefect on February 14, 2005, 07:43:07 pm
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saslesman huh? congradulations, you now manufacture bull**** for a living

Don't sell it short. Good bull**** is worth its weight in gold to those who aren't good at manufacturing it.
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Post by: Rictor on February 14, 2005, 07:44:04 pm
Nuke, the tertiary sector is about all thats left in America. Get used to it.
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Post by: Gortef on February 15, 2005, 05:07:31 am
Congrats Liberator ^^
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Post by: vyper on February 15, 2005, 05:27:40 am
Once again congratulations, however I must say I feel you're being treated as slave labour at those wages.
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Post by: aldo_14 on February 15, 2005, 05:41:47 am
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Originally posted by vyper
Once again congratulations, however I must say I feel you're being treated as slave labour at those wages.


Well, it is under UK minimum wage at that rate, although I guess you need to take what you can get.
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Post by: Tiara on February 15, 2005, 06:28:13 am
Yeah, it's under the minimum wage as well here... but it's always good to have a job and at the same time look for a new and better job. :) You still earn a bit of money while normally you'd be earning nothing while searching for a job. And it gives you experience, which is always a plus.

At least, that's how i hopped between my first few jobs till I got one that suited me and had a nice wage. :)
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Post by: Liberator on February 15, 2005, 08:09:28 am
Pay rate is all relative to the cost of living.  And I don't have a murderous tax rate of 70%-80% gutting it before i see it.  I should pull down ~$200 a week after taxes, which is enough to pay my rent and utilities.
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Post by: Gloriano on February 15, 2005, 08:23:49 am
Congrats lib.:)
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Post by: aldo_14 on February 15, 2005, 08:38:42 am
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Originally posted by Liberator
Pay rate is all relative to the cost of living.  And I don't have a murderous tax rate of 70%-80% gutting it before i see it.  I should pull down ~$200 a week after taxes, which is enough to pay my rent and utilities.


You have to pay for more social services & healthcare though, don't you?
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Post by: Liberator on February 15, 2005, 08:52:07 am
It's in the taxes, I've never actually had occasion to use them any further than that.

BTW, that's $14,560 a year before taxes, which is more than I've ever made in the same period in my life.
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Post by: Corsair on February 15, 2005, 09:21:36 am
IIRC minimum wage in the US is $5 an hour, right?

Anyway, congrats Lib!
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Post by: IceFire on February 15, 2005, 09:41:43 am
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Originally posted by Ford Prefect

Don't sell it short. Good bull**** is worth its weight in gold to those who aren't good at manufacturing it.

And there's lots of people who aren't good at manufacturing.  I see it every day I go into work at my part time job in a computer store.
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Post by: beatspete on February 15, 2005, 10:02:51 am
Nice one.
Full time or part time?

A new job is always a good time to meet new people, take advantage of that...
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Post by: Stunaep on February 15, 2005, 12:24:00 pm
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Originally posted by Tiara
Yeah, it's under the minimum wage as well here... but it's always good to have a job and at the same time look for a new and better job. :) You still earn a bit of money while normally you'd be earning nothing while searching for a job. And it gives you experience, which is always a plus.

At least, that's how i hopped between my first few jobs till I got one that suited me and had a nice wage. :)


I ain't saying anything here, considering that the minimum wage here is $2 per hour, which is exactly what I'm making (then again, I have a job, that consists literally of nothing else than sitting for 3 hours, and chatting with your colleagues/friends), so good for you.
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Post by: Taristin on February 15, 2005, 03:02:45 pm
There's talk of uppin minimum wage to 7.00/hr, but businesses always cry that it'll hurt them too much. :doubt:

I wish min wage was ~10/hr... So I could get a nice default raise... :doubt:
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Post by: Sandwich on February 15, 2005, 03:07:12 pm
Holy poopy. Minimum wage here is like 20 shekels/hr, which at 4.5 to the USD is around 4.5 bucks. :(
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Post by: Flipside on February 15, 2005, 03:17:41 pm
Minimum Wage in the UK is something like £7.50 ph, which is around $15.

Not bad, problem is, when you take the Price of stuff in the UK, it realistically is equivalent to around $4.
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Post by: Gank on February 15, 2005, 04:21:09 pm
Couple of quid too high there Flipside, its less than a fiver iirc

Minimum wage here is 7 euros an hour, although a labourer on a building site like myself gets twice that.

Oh aye and congrats libby.
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Post by: Flipside on February 15, 2005, 04:31:30 pm
Yup, just checked and your right, it's £4.90 or the like, so around $10 :)
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Post by: mitac on February 15, 2005, 05:31:21 pm
Congratulations, Lib.

We don't even have an official minimum wage here. :nervous: Though "dumping" is not really a mass phenomenom, as people rather take the money from social funds then do cheap work. More of a reason for our rate of unemployment. :doubt:
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Post by: Liberator on February 15, 2005, 06:22:15 pm
On the subject of minimum wage:

An MW is generally a good thing, it guarantees that the employees will not get raped at the paycheck.  If it gets to high the employer has to pass on the cost of having 'X' number of employees at a minimum of 'y' per employee.  Also bear in mind that a minimum wage is just a starting point, it doesn't represent an endpoint for adult employees with many bills.  It's really just suppose to help ensure that young, entry level workers don't get shafted.  Besides, if you're doing you're job you should make more that minimum in short order.

A high minimum wage doesn't do anything but crush employment.
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Post by: Taristin on February 15, 2005, 06:36:47 pm
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Originally posted by Liberator

A high minimum wage doesn't do anything but crush employment.


Because it's so easy to survive on 5.15/hr, right? :rolleyes: :doubt:


You know the reason that the majority of people here in NY stay on Unemployment until it runs out?

Because the Gov't will pay the the equivalent of ~7/hr for an averaged 40 hour week to not work, and then try to encourage them to take a job that pays 5.50/hr, for less than 40 hours a week. When the former was barely enough to fight off bankruptcy. :doubt:
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Post by: Flipside on February 15, 2005, 06:37:03 pm
Not always, the biggest culprits in the low-wage band are often those that can most easily afford it.  Too high a wage could certainly cripple smaller companies, but as far as larger corporations are concerned it's more about profit for the shareholder.
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Post by: Liberator on February 15, 2005, 07:18:10 pm
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Originally posted by Raa


Because it's so easy to survive on 5.15/hr, right?


It's not meant to be a living wage.  If you need a higher income, you shouldn't be applying for minimum wage jobs.

Like I said before, people who start at minimum and stay there are shooting themselves in the foot most of the time, of the, now, 4 jobs that I've ever held, I was given a raise after a very short period of time or started at higher that minimum.

As far as unemployment checks go, if you're on the unemployment rolls, you're supposed to be actively seeking employment or possibly gaining skills that will allow you to get a job.  You talk like you expect someone to hire you and pay you a fat check right from the start.  It doesn't work like that.  It can't really, I mean would you pay someone not worth a damn, who's late to work everyday and is generally a slouch, the same rate or salary as someone who works hard and is courteous and a good employee?  Of course not.  You start them at a low pay rate so that you can find out who is a creep and who'll be good for the company.
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Post by: Taristin on February 15, 2005, 07:20:01 pm
Sometimes, minimum wage jobs are all that are available to some people.

You speak like only unskilled people are ever on unemployment. Skilled workers can and have been let go, and they can't afford to take the jobs the gov't tries to offer them, because they will actually pay less than unemployment...
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Post by: vyper on February 15, 2005, 07:44:07 pm
Lib - I think I preferred it when you were an emotional wreck, you have  a better sense of fairness.

Come the **** on - do you honestly believe the people who end up forced into applying for minimum wage jobs are doing it by choice?
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Post by: Ford Prefect on February 15, 2005, 07:56:36 pm
What are you talking about, vyper? Those people at McDonald's and Wal-Mart do what they do because they're dedicated to their fine craft! If they wanted to make enough to live on, they would!
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Post by: Liberator on February 15, 2005, 09:48:35 pm
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Originally posted by Raa
Skilled workers can and have been let go, and they can't afford to take the jobs the gov't tries to offer them, because they will actually pay less than unemployment...


But if they're skilled, then they shouldn't stay at minimum wage.

And why should an unskilled employee, be paid a wage similar to someone that has spent the time to become skilled?  By their very nature they aren't worth as much as someone who know what their doing.

Minimum wage is a STARTING POINT, not a TERMINAL WAGE level.