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Title: 2'500'000 tons of spinning metal . . . all alone in the night
Post by: Col. Fishguts on February 18, 2005, 02:32:06 pm: "It was the dawn of the third age of mankind"

(http://n.ethz.ch/student/ebuerli/download/tbp/screenshots/B5_01.jpg)

It's in the final conversion stage and will most definitely be in the next update.
And for those who actually read the text under pretty pictures, here's a special bonus: Download (Save target as, 16MB, XviD codec required) (http://n.ethz.ch/student/ebuerli/download/tbp/B5_teaser_xvid.avi)
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Post by: Psychoo on February 18, 2005, 02:41:37 pm: What can I say... S-W-E-E-T:yes: Outstanding work!:eek2:
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Post by: Jetmech Jr. on February 18, 2005, 02:47:24 pm: :jaw:
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Post by: c914 on February 18, 2005, 02:52:40 pm: Veri very nice station..and movie, specialy end of it:D
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Post by: Primus on February 18, 2005, 03:10:14 pm: :yes2::yes:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Night Hammer on February 18, 2005, 03:12:02 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Jetmech Jr.
:jaw:

:nod:
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Post by: Woolie Wool on February 18, 2005, 03:16:08 pm: It looks exactly like the TV show.
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Post by: Azrael15 on February 18, 2005, 03:26:12 pm: So, ah, when's the next update? :p
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Post by: Fury on February 18, 2005, 03:28:11 pm: After the next teaser.
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Post by: aldo_14 on February 18, 2005, 04:02:31 pm: Crikey.
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Post by: Roanoke on February 18, 2005, 04:09:41 pm: Dude!!

maybe now I can do my Severed Dreams Fred effort.....
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Post by: NGTM-1R on February 18, 2005, 04:07:51 pm: W00tness.
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Post by: Skullar on February 18, 2005, 04:20:54 pm: Yeah. thats our preliminary stuff. The nebulae still suck, epsilon 3 is too blurry ( we work on it ) and the station gets some final tweaking. Glowmaps are still missing.

Roanoke, you can sign on with the campaign team !

The civil War campaign features a SEVERED DREAMS mission.
Oh yeah, our 47 mission campaign will start getting developed when scripts are completed and remaining models are done. Some are still getting improved ( was playing around with Omega, ET1 !!!!!!!!! )

Campaign team gathering will start somewhere in march.... spread the news and sign on, this will be the BIG one !
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Post by: CptWhite on February 18, 2005, 04:28:28 pm: I first started texturing this beast about 3-4 years ago. The final result is fantastic and I think it's great what this mod has achieved. Everyone should be really proud of their contribution the babylon 5 station and the EA civil war compaign should be the jewel in the crown of this mod. Bring it on....and let the word spread - this mod deserves more recognition.
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Post by: Deepblue on February 18, 2005, 06:33:05 pm: Wow... So are you guys ever going to give the Aurora and Badger a makeover (points to untextured high-poly cockpited models on HD).
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Post by: Woolie Wool on February 18, 2005, 06:37:35 pm: What were the first and second ages of mankind anyway?
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Post by: Carl on February 18, 2005, 07:23:49 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Skullar
epsilon 3 is too blurry ( we work on it )

many times:nod:
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Post by: Jetmech Jr. on February 18, 2005, 07:32:53 pm: I notice the
Spoiler:
Battlecrab's
maps aren't animated...:(
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Post by: Deepblue on February 18, 2005, 07:57:47 pm: Bah! It wouldnt be that hard to animate them!

*watches vid*

!!Hot DAMN!!

*heads to firstones*
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Post by: Deepblue on February 19, 2005, 12:00:28 am: BTW there is a slight mapping error, check the video at about 24 seconds in. A grey circle is off on the model a tiny bit.
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Post by: Azrael15 on February 19, 2005, 01:23:13 am: So... how powerful is the Shadow slicer beam ingame, anyway?
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Post by: stingray on February 19, 2005, 02:52:54 am: Awesome work guys!!! :)

JMS would be proud.
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Post by: redmenace on February 19, 2005, 03:43:25 am: lol, so how long has B5 been WIP?
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Post by: Azrael15 on February 19, 2005, 04:36:15 am: A long time. I can remember seeing some VERY old screen shots, back on the old server in 2002/3 or so. Before R1, I believe.
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Post by: IPAndrews on February 19, 2005, 07:38:01 am: Yes this model has been around for a long, long time in some form or other. It's also been touched by many people in the course of it's life.

Wingnut bult the original model.
I rebuilt the model.
Tomcat tweaked the model.
CptWhite textured some of the model.
I reuvmapped and retextured the model.
Stithe2000 uberized and retextured the model.
ColFishguts shinemapped the model.

And still to be done...

Stithe2000 or me convert the model.
I glowpoint the model.
JMS blows up the model because it's a hazard to navigation.
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Post by: IPAndrews on February 19, 2005, 07:40:51 am: Quote
Originally posted by stingray
JMS would be proud.

You know someone should show JMS... If that was a Battlestar I'd be emailing Richard Hatch. Actually if that was a Battlestar Richard Hatch would probably be emailing me - but that's another story.
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Post by: Skullar on February 19, 2005, 08:06:11 am: Quote
Originally posted by Azrael15
So... how powerful is the Shadow slicer beam ingame, anyway?

Well.... one shot, one kill.
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Post by: BlazeME on February 19, 2005, 08:47:07 am: Sweet! :jaw: :yes:
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Post by: Fury on February 19, 2005, 09:25:37 am: Quote
Originally posted by Skullar

Well.... one shot, one kill.

Not quite but very powerful compared to anything but other FO weapons.
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Post by: Trivial Psychic on February 19, 2005, 11:12:21 am: Got a few questions. How are you gonna impliment docking bays? In the show, fighters depart from the Cobra and other launch bays down the sides of the station, then return through the primary docking bay. However at present, SCP lacks the ability to designate for any object, which bay it will arrive from and depart through. Will you be petitioning the SCP team to code some kind of solution to this? Furthermore, how do you plan on solving the rotation issue for the main docking bay? Most ships that enter through there are too wide to fit through the the bay at its shortest width. Are you gonna use a path method that forces the ship though an axial rotation of sime kind, or will you just terminate the docking path just outside the station, so the vessel just dissapears before entering the bay?

Going form docking bays to dock points, if you're gonna code yourselves a "Severed Dreams" mission, you'll have to incude the event where the breaching pod docks with B5. In the episode, it docks in Brown Sector, which is part of the rotational section. However, not only can you not mount a dockpoint to a rotating submodel, but it would be virtually impossible for the breaching pod to dock with something moving both lateraly and around. Will you simply place a dockpoint there and be damned with rotation, or will you place it on the non-rotating rear-section? Either way, you're gonna half to give up some degree of accuracy.

Of course, I thought the movie was well done, and I was wickedly surprised by the ending. Was the engine sound coded in, or was it just added in by dubbing? I'd also like to again point out the lack of those knob things on the arms that "cradle" B5's forward sphere section. I know that its hard to keep a working model with so many polys, but that was just to counter the "Its just like on TV" remark... since its not entirely accurate. That said, great job, and I look forward to seeing her in-game in the next update!

Later!
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Post by: mitac on February 19, 2005, 11:49:43 am: That is pretty good. The only thing I was missing in the video were some repair crews working here and there. :D
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Post by: Tiara on February 19, 2005, 12:13:23 pm: Pimped @ SB

...as usual :D
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Post by: Setekh on February 19, 2005, 05:57:18 pm: :eek2: @ this thread.

Hey stingray, welcome to HLP. :)

:welcome:
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Post by: Burns on February 19, 2005, 06:06:42 pm: Wow.
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Post by: Xelion on February 19, 2005, 10:48:40 pm: Just Amazing :yes:. Its gonna look spectacular with glow maps/points.
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Post by: starfox on February 20, 2005, 02:25:48 pm: Beautiful work of art
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Post by: Col. Fishguts on February 20, 2005, 03:41:28 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Trivial Psychic
...Of course, I thought the movie was well done, and I was wickedly surprised by the ending. Was the engine sound coded in, or was it just added in by dubbing?
....

The sounds were mixed in manually.

As for docking, afaik dockpoints on rotating objects should be possible now with Goobs multi docking code....haven't tested it yet though.
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Post by: Deepblue on February 20, 2005, 04:18:53 pm: Now frontpage at FirstOnes.com.
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Post by: übermetroid on February 21, 2005, 02:20:19 am: amazing! I wounder wat JMS would say....
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Post by: MikhailM on February 21, 2005, 10:19:02 am: Awesome work guys!
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Post by: Vertigo1 on February 22, 2005, 12:48:41 am: O_O

Ok....I can't seem to find my lower jaw. Can someone help me? ;)
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Post by: starfox on February 22, 2005, 05:14:06 am: Is the TBP B5 in right scale when compared the Babylon 5 in series, I can't seem to remember how long B5 is excatly

Other than that, job beyond imagination. Bless you Staff of TBP, Bless you !
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Post by: oohal on February 22, 2005, 05:50:55 am: SWEET :yes: but when you guys do get it ingame my computer will never run it :(
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Post by: MikhailM on February 22, 2005, 09:32:06 am: I'm pretty sure it's been stated in the series that B5 is 8 km (5 miles) long, but then again it's been so long since I've seen the series that I might just be making up numbers... :rolleyes:
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Post by: Primus on February 22, 2005, 10:09:02 am: Yeah.. 5 miles..

And the B5 will kill my 'puter too :(
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Post by: pyro-manic on February 22, 2005, 12:32:13 pm: It's... a big tube!
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Post by: Burns on February 22, 2005, 04:59:23 pm: Hurry, hurry.
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Post by: Woolie Wool on February 22, 2005, 06:05:58 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Burns
Hurry, hurry.
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Post by: Fury on February 23, 2005, 08:07:49 am: Strangely enough, after the video was release we got a lot new downloads...
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Post by: Bobboau on February 23, 2005, 09:06:57 am: hmm that sure is an interesting coincedence
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Post by: Fergus on February 23, 2005, 11:11:15 am: I have been circulating alot of news about your lots exellent achievements in the Real World, that may have made a minor difference (3 or 4).
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Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on February 23, 2005, 11:52:16 am: Do what Fergus does, tell of TBP to your friends. We can never have too many players :)

Not that 6000 base downloads is a bad thing at all, especially so with a space sim based on a relatively marginal scifi show. I'm starting to hope we can eventually reach 10k ;7
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Post by: Primus on February 23, 2005, 11:57:41 am: Lieutenant! You're finnish? Damn. Are there more finnish people working on TBP other than you and Fury?

Hmm.. TBP. Made by finnish, for finnish :drevil:
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Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on February 23, 2005, 12:12:03 pm: I think there are five of us, altough not all of us are active. And yes, we are plotting to take over the whole project :drevil:
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Post by: Primus on February 23, 2005, 12:09:42 pm: Five? Excellent :drevil:

And your sig is wierd but funny :lol:

EDIT:
:sigh: This should be under Lt.'s post...
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Post by: Fury on February 23, 2005, 12:10:44 pm: 6 finnish staff members out of 28 isn't bad at all. And by the way, we recently passed 5k Base downloads from official locations, not 6k.

Star Trek's timewarps are invading B5...
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Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on February 23, 2005, 12:33:05 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Mr. Fury
And by the way, we recently passed 5k Base downloads from official locations, not 6k.

I know, but I also accounted the 1000 downloads from here:

http://www.peliplaneetta.net/tiedostot/modit-moninpelit/yksinpelimodit/5076/
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Post by: Fury on February 23, 2005, 12:59:30 pm: 1k downloads just from Peliplaneetta? That's pretty impressive. I wonder what's the real count...
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Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on February 23, 2005, 01:16:17 pm: And maybe a few hundred more from pelit.fi. I don't know the true numbers but I presume it's quite a lot as the site has a few thousand visitors each day and we were on the frontpage for a while.
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Post by: Burns on February 24, 2005, 07:38:34 pm: Oh man, only if there could be better multiplayer like FPS style join and play.
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Post by: Vainzki on February 25, 2005, 03:23:36 am: This vid got me silenced for a few minutes...after that I was all over MSN/ICQ telling people to download it :)

Very nice work!
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Post by: Deepblue on February 25, 2005, 11:23:25 am: We should probably wait until the TBP team actually releases it...
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Post by: Fergus on February 26, 2005, 08:58:47 am: Hmm, I have a feeling that alot of people are going to copy the Station and the assorted background materials for thier own Babylon 5 moments. But as I have no idea if there were any, I may be talking nonsense.
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Post by: starfox on February 27, 2005, 03:44:36 pm: I'm not TBP Staff memeber, but I'm also Finnish ! There is really suprising number of Finnish people involved in this glorious project.
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Post by: Woolie Wool on February 28, 2005, 12:58:23 pm: Somehow, I think B5 would weigh many billions of tons, not 2.5 million. A Fenris cruiser would probably weigh at least 50 million tons, and it would be like a fly compared to B5.
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Post by: pyro-manic on February 28, 2005, 01:02:21 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Woolie Wool
Somehow, I think B5 would weigh many billions of tons, not 2.5 million. A Fenris cruiser would probably weigh at least 50 million tons, and it would be like a fly compared to B5.

Uh, not quite. A Fenris is what, 300m long? Now your average aircraft carrier is almost that size, and weighs (or rathe displaces) 60,000-odd tonnes at most (perhaps not that much?). A Fenris would probably weigh a few times more - armour and whatnot is quite heavy - but 50 million is rather far-fetched. You'd have a hard job just finding 50 million tonnes of steel, let alone making a ship out of it.

I suspect the station would weigh something like a couple of million tonnes - I don't know anything about B5 so I don't know if it's armoured or whatever, but 2.5mt is a lot of metal, so it sounds fairly realistic to me...
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Post by: comic on February 28, 2005, 01:09:51 pm: I tend to agree with Pyro, the station is mostly hollow with only the outer shell spinning at the correct speed to give gravity (see any B5 interior shot) so would weigh a lot less that what meats the eye.

Also Ha y Pyro im back guese who!?
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Post by: pyro-manic on February 28, 2005, 06:42:48 pm: Be off, back-from-the-dead-person. :p:D Go and look at some SCP stuff... :nod:

I should probably play this mod, actually - it's been on my HDD for a while now. Hafta get my project work out of the way and then see what all the fuss is about...
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Post by: donlas on February 28, 2005, 07:49:54 pm: 2k d/ls from shareprovider.com
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Post by: Xaphod on March 01, 2005, 01:57:30 pm: Wow. You guys have done great job on that beast.
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Post by: IPAndrews on March 02, 2005, 04:42:02 am: ... and you haven't seen it with the lights turned on yet.
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Post by: Xaphod on March 02, 2005, 08:28:46 am: Oooooooooooo
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Post by: -Norbert- on March 05, 2005, 08:13:11 am: then post a screeny of it with lights on please
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Post by: Akalabeth Angel on March 29, 2005, 11:18:06 am: Quote
Originally posted by Woolie Wool
What were the first and second ages of mankind anyway?

I think it's in reference to some literary thing, where the first stage is being an infant and dependant upon the parents. The second being where they're under the guidance of their parents, and the third age is when they strike out on their own.

It's somewhat similar to Lord of the Rings, which uses the same idea. The action in Lord of the Rings takes place in the third age, and in that the kind of old, wise people the elves are leaving and man has to make a world for themselves kind of thing. (If you notice, when Gandalf is in the library in the first movie reading about the previous war he mentions that it's the second age).

I'm not quite sure of where it comes from, maybe someone else can lend more insight.
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Post by: Stunaep on March 29, 2005, 12:53:20 pm: Quote
Originally said by Sheridan in Into The Fire

"We are all alone now, just the younger races. We can't blame anyone else from now on. It's a new age, Delenn, a third age."
"Why third?"
"We begun in chaos, too primitive to make our own decisions. Then we were manipulated from outside by forces that thought they knew what was best for us. And now .. now we are finally standing on our own. Lorien was right, it's a great responsibility. This is ours now."
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Post by: karajorma on March 29, 2005, 12:55:23 pm: Sheridan reveals what the 3 ages were at the end of Into the Fire.

In the first age human were primatives unable to make our own choices.

In the second age humans were manipulated by outside forces who had their own agendas

The third age is when humanity is finally standing on it's own two feet.

So you're not too far wrong Akalabeth
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Post by: Tain on March 30, 2005, 01:24:22 pm: Actually, i always thought "the third age of mankind" was a reference to "The Seven Ages of Man", by William Shakespere.
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Post by: Stunaep on March 30, 2005, 02:28:51 pm: So that would make it "The whining schoolboy with his satchel, creeping unwillingly to school", or was it the lover? :wtf:
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Post by: Akalabeth Angel on March 30, 2005, 03:20:18 pm: One of the two.
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Post by: Woolie Wool on March 30, 2005, 04:12:49 pm: Would the Fourth Age be where mankind starts guiding and ****ing with other races, like the Vorlons and Shadows? And then the Fifth Age could be when mankind goes beyond the Rim to join Lorien and the First Ones.
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Post by: karajorma on March 30, 2005, 04:36:20 pm: Well humanity does end up as energy beings like the Vorlons were but hopefully they learned their lessons from the way the Vorlons screwed up.