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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Carl on February 18, 2005, 08:03:51 pm
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BAM! Reed's part of section 31!
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Mother****er!
Erm, I forgot this was on 2nite.
All current torrents hereby paused, beginning new torrent search ;)
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Best episode they have done!
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Unbelievable episode! :D Damn, I can't wait until next week.
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this might explain those klingons during the TOS era.
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errr...yeah, neo_hermes. that was the entire purpose of the episode.
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:o well...excuse me for posting...
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Apparently, there's some real "High Wire" action during PT.2.
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Next time you see it, keep on the look out for Family Guy creator Seth MacFarlane as Ensign Rivers.
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Originally posted by Trivial Psychic
Apparently, there's some real "High Wire" action during PT.2.
Meh... the preview looks like it'll go down hill. Archer getting turned into a Klingon? :doubt:
Maybe he's just surgically altered to sneak in... hopefully it's not some "alienating" thing.
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Originally posted by Ace
Meh... the preview looks like it'll go down hill. Archer getting turned into a Klingon? :doubt:
Maybe he's just surgically altered to sneak in... hopefully it's not some "alienating" thing.
I'd imagine that's it; ST has been doing surgical alterations throughout its existance as a show to do covert inter-species operations, but I don't think they've ever physically changed someone's species for that purpose. The Cardassian agent in Voyager may be an acception as I stopped following that show after its first season, but otherwise that's a task outside of DS9-level technology.
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*command voice*
POST SPOLIERS
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Holy **** that rocked. Augment Klingons? As good a way as any I guess - and the S31 involvement really got me going: only people who paid attention to DS9 would realize it was them (e.g. "was in the Federation charter" - heh, or before it seems).
Whuppa. And that "dream" sequence really opens things up for T'Pol and Trip getting things sorted.
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Yeah, poor them. As much as T'pol pretends not to, she wants to be with Trip. Hopefully it will get resolved before the end of the series.
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I seem to recall calling the augment klingon thing way back after the three augment eppisodes were there bird of prey full of augment babies was shot down over a klingon planet
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The synopsis for the next episode on startrek.com says that, during a temporary visit by Trip to Enterprise, T'Pol will finally confront him about the whole relationship issue. So I'd say the chances are good that they'll get things worked out.
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2 chances they either grab eachother and have hot steaming sex all night ... or T'Pol kicks trips ass out of the airlock :)
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Originally posted by Ashrak
2 chances they either grab eachother and have hot steaming sex all night ... or T'Pol kicks trips ass out of the airlock :)
Meh...either one works :p
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It's Star Trek - all relationships are doomed to failure.
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*cough*Riker and Diana get married*cough*
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That's a fluke - (Deanna btw)
Just like the whole of Nemesis.
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Tom Paris and B'elanna Torres.
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Miles and Keiko O'Brien.
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Originally posted by Carl
Tom Paris and B'elanna Torres.
No one knows what happened post-return
[q]Miles and Keiko O'Brien.[/q]
Miles DS9 left because she wanted to go back to Earth, and she vanished for most of the DS9 seasons leaving him to "bond" with Bashir. So it proves the point that trek tries to avoid successful relationships.
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erm dax and worf :)
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Originally posted by vyper
Miles DS9 left because she wanted to go back to Earth, and she vanished for most of the DS9 seasons leaving him to "bond" with Bashir. So it proves the point that trek tries to avoid successful relationships.
They remained happily married throughout the whole series. So it would rather seem to disprove the point.
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As far as Deanna relationships are concerned, I always wondered why they kept a bike on a spaceship :nervous:
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Ha.
That was pretty funny. Really.
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[q]erm dax and worf[/q]
you obviously missed Dax being killed by Pah-Raith-Dukat around the time she was trying to get pregnant.
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Originally posted by Goober5000
They remained happily married throughout the whole series. So it would rather seem to disprove the point.
I dunno about that...I recall multiple instantances of "the petty fighting O'Briens", but on the whole you're probably right.
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Originally posted by vyper
[q]erm dax and worf[/q]
you obviously missed Dax being killed by Pah-Raith-Dukat around the time she was trying to get pregnant.
that didn't stop them from getting together though, becase after that the next host to Dax went directly back to Worf
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Data and Tasha Yar...
...ow wait, nah. :p
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Originally posted by StratComm
I'd imagine that's it; ST has been doing surgical alterations throughout its existance as a show to do covert inter-species operations, but I don't think they've ever physically changed someone's species for that purpose. The Cardassian agent in Voyager may be an acception as I stopped following that show after its first season, but otherwise that's a task outside of DS9-level technology.
Why wouldn't they be able to turn someone into an alien? 20th century surgeons managed to do it with Michael Jackson, so why not the startrek ones? :p
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I fianlly saw the episode. Reed is a "former" member of Section 31? It's not actually ever named.
What going to be interesting is how they explain why "the section" was so silent for the intervening years till they showed up again on DS9, thouhg that'll probably never happen.
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Dude, they are meant to be silent. They are meant to go unnoticed. That's the whole point of the organization. :p
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Originally posted by Liberator
I fianlly saw the episode. Reed is a "former" member of Section 31? It's not actually ever named.
What going to be interesting is how they explain why "the section" was so silent for the intervening years till they showed up again on DS9, thouhg that'll probably never happen.
Surely they weren't silent...but this event may lead them to retreat back into the shadows a bit and not use command officers to do their work for them.
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Data and Borg Queen... (eww), wait are we even still on this subject?
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Originally posted by vyper
No one knows what happened post-return
errr...we don't know what happens to any TV relationships after the show is over. we don't know If Ricky and Lucy got divorced 5 years after I Love Lucy ended, are you gonna tell me their relationship failed then, just because the show didn't continue on and show them married until they die?
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Originally posted by Nico
Why wouldn't they be able to turn someone into an alien? 20th century surgeons managed to do it with Michael Jackson, so why not the startrek ones? :p
There's the DS9 episode Second Skin, where the Cardies "turn" Major Kira into a Cardie. There's never any indication that she was able to scan herself and discover that she's still Bajoran on the inside, but perhaps that's due to her not having any access to a tricorder equivalent. :doubt:
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Guess I should fire up the tivo'd episode and watch it.
I always like the book "The Final Reflection" they explained the human looking klingons as hybrids, bred to the purpose of interfacing with other cultures. And the guys with ridges were true "Imperial Klingons" untainted.
Kinda goes against canon, but it's an older book, and it's really well written.
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That's not really an incorrect answer however. The version in the show however explains why Kang, Kor and Koloth didn't have ridges in TOS and did everywhere else, Phlox must develop a cure.
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But why would it take till the late 23rd Century to become effective then?
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Maybe it changes the virus into something more nominal. With the loss of the forehead ridges being the largest symptom.
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or maybe they are able to get the genetic modifications to work without killing them, or with slowed effect.
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Watched it.
Meh.
I keep hoping for this to come to some climax in terms of "quality."
I just keep comparing it to the likes of BG or Farscape, or even Firefly, and I find it lacking. That makes me sad. I have been a trek fan since before alot of you were born.
I guess 25+ years of being a fan is finally wearing thin.
I liked the "Final Reflection" explanation better, though, it doesn't explain folks like Kang (was written before Kang was reintroduced, sometime after ST:TMP, probably near Kahn, so in the 80's I think).
Good book. Well written. A little bit of "Ender's Game" with Klingons for part of it.
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Originally posted by vyper
But why would it take till the late 23rd Century to become effective then?
Klingons live longer than humans, remember?
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the lifespan of a klingon is inconsiquential to this matter. he is asking why the cure doesn't work until the 23rd century.
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And FYI, the average Klingon lifespan is 40 years.
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That's accounting for assasinations and the like, tho. Their natural lifespan is longer.
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not so much assassinations as just fighting and getting shot at all the time.
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Whatever, same point, different details. Or something like that. :nervous: