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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rictor on February 22, 2005, 07:17:50 am

Title: ...and the propaganda war rages on.
Post by: Rictor on February 22, 2005, 07:17:50 am
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20050221/wl_nm/iraq_propaganda_dc

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Iraq's U.S.-backed interim government is stepping up its propaganda war with insurgents by broadcasting videotaped interviews with suspects who appear to confess to killings, rape and theft on the orders of guerrillas.

The offensive was launched in recent weeks on state-run Iraqiya television, which broadcast lengthy interrogations of Iraqis it said had carried out terrorist acts under the direction of "Abdullah," described as a criminal with close ties to Syria.

There is no obvious way to verify the authenticity of the confessions. The interrogator's face does not appear on camera, and the suspects are shown sitting in office chairs across from a desk in a white-walled room.

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The interviewer encouraged the men to speak about "filthy crimes" and constantly mentioned Syria.

"So were these goods smuggled with the knowledge of the Syrian government?" he asked.


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The great purges involving thousands of people, with public trials of traitors and thought-criminals who made abject confession of their crimes and were afterwards executed, were special show-pieces not occurring oftener than once in a couple of years.
Title: ...and the propaganda war rages on.
Post by: vyper on February 22, 2005, 07:37:21 am
Well there's a shock. :rolleyes:  I'm beyond being shocked.
Title: ...and the propaganda war rages on.
Post by: pyro-manic on February 22, 2005, 11:46:41 am
Wa-hey...
Title: ...and the propaganda war rages on.
Post by: Flipside on February 22, 2005, 12:07:17 pm
Oh, I'm sure that their opinions and statements are at least as sincere and without duress as the statements made by kidnap victims in Iraq :)
Title: ...and the propaganda war rages on.
Post by: vyper on February 22, 2005, 01:05:03 pm
Ding ding.
Title: ...and the propaganda war rages on.
Post by: Janos on February 22, 2005, 01:59:11 pm
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Originally posted by Flipside
Oh, I'm sure that their opinions and statements are at least as sincere and without duress as the statements made by kidnap victims in Iraq :)


Which makes it allright?

buhh?
Title: ...and the propaganda war rages on.
Post by: Flipside on February 22, 2005, 02:00:43 pm
Yeah, that's fine, you see, it all balances out in the end, such is the great Karma of life :)

Not. ;)

Edit : And for someone who specialises in Sarcasm, that one passed you by :p
Title: ...and the propaganda war rages on.
Post by: Janos on February 22, 2005, 02:05:04 pm
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Originally posted by Flipside
Yeah, that's fine, you see, it all balances out in the end, such is the great Karma of life :)

Not. ;)

Edit : And for someone who specialises in Sarcasm, that one passed you by :p


I am tired and ruined!
Title: ...and the propaganda war rages on.
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on February 22, 2005, 02:51:03 pm
Since when was "oftener" a word?
Title: ...and the propaganda war rages on.
Post by: Woolie Wool on February 22, 2005, 03:02:37 pm
Since a long time ago. I've seen in in several books. But it sounds stupid so not many people use it.
Title: ...and the propaganda war rages on.
Post by: Flipside on February 22, 2005, 03:08:59 pm
I think it must be an American phrase then, it is certainly not accepted as gramatically correct in the UK, any more than saying 'More oftenly'
Title: ...and the propaganda war rages on.
Post by: Rictor on February 22, 2005, 04:22:46 pm
uhmm, thats Orwell you know.

I think its one of those wierd words/phrases which sounds like it shouldn't be a word but really is, except that no one's used it for a good fifty years.
Title: ...and the propaganda war rages on.
Post by: Flipside on February 22, 2005, 05:02:11 pm
Yeah, that's possible, the word 'often' is one of those strange ones that no longer stands up to have prosthetic letters, but language drift happens so fast these days that a mode of speech can change entirely in less than a generation.
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Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on February 22, 2005, 08:47:28 pm
bad means good?  when did this happen?  was it the 80's?  dammit i have a blank spot from the 80's where an entire semester should be!!!!
Title: ...and the propaganda war rages on.
Post by: Corsair on February 22, 2005, 09:40:20 pm
I like Sergey Eisenstein's work the best. We could use a modern day Alexander Nevsky.