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Post by: Taristin on February 27, 2005, 10:23:49 am
No text. Just speculation.
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Post by: Gai Daigoji on February 27, 2005, 10:48:15 am
Looks good in my view, also kind of looks Vasudan.
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Post by: Corsair on February 27, 2005, 10:57:06 am
Looks pretty Vasudanish but with a bit of Terran influence. Any chance we could get some more views?
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Post by: Taristin on February 27, 2005, 11:04:09 am
I'm still trying to figure out something on the bottomside. When I get it to my liking, I'll show more. The top, is pretty much how it is, though, unless I can think of more greebling.
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Post by: Black Wolf on February 27, 2005, 11:18:49 am
TV Hybrid? These are difficult to make as models, but utter impossible evil *****es to texture right. The fact that you've pulled off the first half is very good, getting the second would be... better? Much better?
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Post by: gevatter Lars on February 27, 2005, 01:32:39 pm
Why should a Terran Vasudan Hybrid also have both texture styles?
When I would build a ship I would build it with one methode and mostly the same materials for the entire hull.
So whats the problem in giving it just Vasuden textures?

Beside that..nice model...looks Vasudan to me.
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Post by: pyro-manic on February 27, 2005, 07:01:20 pm
Nice model, but the greebling (square-ish extrusions) make it look distinctly un-Vasudan. The front is very Vasudan, but the middle and back are rather less so. Be interesting to see what else you do to it. :yes: I'd say it needs a "vertical" feature, some sort of superstructure (Terran) or some tail-like fins (Vasudan). Or something. Good stuff though :)
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Post by: Taristin on February 27, 2005, 07:33:56 pm
Ehh. I never said it was Vasudan or Terran. ;)

You people all jump on a bandwagon. ;)

I can;t wait to see what I do with it, either, though. :nervous:
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Post by: WMCoolmon on February 27, 2005, 07:50:28 pm
Looks Covenant :nervous:
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Post by: Taristin on February 27, 2005, 08:06:10 pm
Damnit... no. I thought I was being original.... :(

Figures....
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Post by: StratComm on February 27, 2005, 08:09:52 pm
I could see a covenant connection if you were going for that, but overall it's a good original design.  I like :)
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Post by: redsniper on February 27, 2005, 08:21:19 pm
looks like a perfect terran/vasudan hybrid to me
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Post by: WMCoolmon on February 27, 2005, 08:22:11 pm
I meant that it looks like a Covenant design, I'm not thinking of any specific ship. ;) It also reminds me of the submarine in Seaquest DSV :p The prow has a somewhat organic shape, which is good if it's a Vasudan vessel, or a new-design Terran one.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on February 27, 2005, 09:03:52 pm
The middle structures appear to be either escape pods or heavy broadside weaponry. I can't quite tell from this angle.
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Post by: StratComm on February 27, 2005, 09:13:12 pm
Or little docking bays.  Too big for EP's I think.
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Post by: Anaz on February 27, 2005, 09:14:04 pm
looks like a giant space spork ;)

Can't really offer any C&C on it beyond that
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Post by: Taristin on February 27, 2005, 09:49:10 pm
If anything, it's an oyster fork... :p
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Post by: brugger on February 27, 2005, 11:20:58 pm
I think it leans vasudan
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Post by: Liberator on February 27, 2005, 11:48:05 pm
Raa, it looks cool.

I'm going to assume that the front is the on the bottom in that picture.

Although, if, somehow, you could make the roundish part on the bottom in that pic the back, it's coolness factor jump about 1500%.:D
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Post by: Ace on February 28, 2005, 03:09:50 am
Looks like a V-T war Vasudan ship. It'd work with a texture job like the one on a Satis.

A real V-T war Vasudan ship that is ;)
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Post by: Drew on February 28, 2005, 12:32:11 pm
Looks like ****.
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Post by: Gloriano on February 28, 2005, 12:37:31 pm
Well I think it's look good, now texture it!
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Post by: aldo_14 on February 28, 2005, 12:46:32 pm
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Originally posted by Drew
Looks like ****.


Nice comment, talent-boy.
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Post by: Carl on February 28, 2005, 12:54:29 pm
looks like it might be a vasudan gas miner adv.
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Post by: Drew on February 28, 2005, 02:31:32 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14


Nice comment, talent-boy.


i bet i can sink a 3 pointer from half court better than you can, but thats not really relevent to the conversation.
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Post by: karajorma on February 28, 2005, 02:44:28 pm
Drew. If you don't like it say why. Offer constructive comments on what could be improved. What you said is absolutely worthless and if that's all you can contribute to the thread you'd be better off saying nothing at all.
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Post by: aldo_14 on February 28, 2005, 03:07:03 pm
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Originally posted by Drew


i bet i can sink a 3 pointer from half court better than you can, but thats not really relevent to the conversation.


If you've got a constructive comment to make, then say it.  If you've only got drivel to spout, take it somewhere else - because it doesn't help anyone, and it doesn't enrich our lives any more.  

And especially don't make comments like 'it looks ****' if you're unable to prove you can do better.
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Post by: StratComm on February 28, 2005, 04:31:15 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14
And especially don't make comments like 'it looks ****' if you're unable to prove you can do better.


I'd actually take that one step back, as you don't need modeling experience to say what you don't like about a model.  Constructive criticism - that which points out concerns you may have about the shape or direction the model is going - is perfectly fine.  But to say it's not good without saying why is like telling a girl you've never seen that she's fat.  You just shouldn't do it.
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Post by: aldo_14 on February 28, 2005, 04:39:52 pm
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Originally posted by StratComm


I'd actually take that one step back, as you don't need modeling experience to say what you don't like about a model.  


I don't mean modelling experience necessarily, just design experience.

Like, um....

"for the underside, why not add a 'soft belly' - make it semi-circular from the front, add in stylistic 'ribs' for texture & surface variation, and then blend in some harded edge armoured / mechanical style surfaces at the rear for the engines, and possible in the midsection / front for heavy weapons.  Also maybe add a sort of underslung appearance from the side view (which I don't have, so guessing a bit from the top-perspective view here), with the curve downards starting just about at the midsection 'split'"


Or just complete the following 'it looks ****, because ....', which is really the least anyone can ask.
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Post by: Turambar on February 28, 2005, 06:49:14 pm
i think it could be a terran influence on vasudan design, 'cause were always seeing how vasudans make an impact on terran ships, weve got to do something better than them, so here it is
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Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on February 28, 2005, 07:02:16 pm
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Originally posted by Drew


i bet i can sink a 3 pointer from half court better than you can, but thats not really relevent to the conversation.


and i bet i can drop a high powered round through the ball at a thousand yards out in high winds.  

the point is....this is a thread about the model.  I bet i can shoot better than aldo or raa.  but can i model like them?  hell no.  so for me to say..."looks like ****" is a grave disservice not to them or the talent that they posess, but instead it is a grave disservice to all of the community.  because while I may be outdo either of them at something away from the freespace community, i certainly cannot achieve what they have within said community, so what i can beat them at doesn't matter to this community.  however the quality of that model does matter within these confines and in this context.  The best i can hope for is to say...i think that this would look cool.....and then tell them.

I would not think to disrespect someone else's talent when i haven't got that same talent.  if you are seriously wanting to disrespect the talent that raa has, by all means then do so, but do so after showing off your own talent, and thereby earning the right.

if there are too many large words in that for you, please allow me to simplify things:  put up or shut up.

and turumbar i was having that same thought a couple of nights ago.  instead of terran ships influenced by vasudan design, i would love to see vasudan ships influenced by terran design.
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Post by: Taristin on February 28, 2005, 07:26:05 pm
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Originally posted by Drew
Looks like ****.

And your opinion means nothing to me. :)




Aldo, Strat, Kara, and Shadow, Thank you. There are reasons I respect you, and this is but one.

Oh... *adds drew to his ignore list* since all I've ever seen him post is trolling, anyway.
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Post by: Deepblue on February 28, 2005, 08:21:55 pm
Hey, Raa, I'm gonna have to not like this model. It seems too blocky, yet too smooth at the same time. Actually my first thought was that it was a human/covenant hybrid ship :D.
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Post by: Black Wolf on February 28, 2005, 08:40:22 pm
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Originally posted by Drew


i bet i can sink a 3 pointer from half court better than you can, but thats not really relevent to the conversation.


Baskeball? That's not really relevant to any conversation.
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Post by: Taristin on February 28, 2005, 09:10:03 pm
:sigh:  There goes another of my threads. :blah:
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Post by: FireCrack on February 28, 2005, 09:13:46 pm
Ya know what, this looks higarran, a bit like the battlecruiser from HWII
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Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on February 28, 2005, 11:13:28 pm
not sure what i would do, i think it rocks just the way it is
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Post by: karajorma on March 01, 2005, 02:55:45 am
Which race are you planning to use this for anyway?
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 01, 2005, 03:39:13 am
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Originally posted by karajorma
Which race are you planning to use this for anyway?


D'ya really think he'd say?
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Post by: Kie99 on March 01, 2005, 09:38:43 am
Maybe it could be a bit thicker and wider, it just looks too long and flat, like its made of paper.
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Post by: Taristin on March 01, 2005, 10:13:10 am
The speculation continues...
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Post by: karajorma on March 01, 2005, 11:26:37 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14
D'ya really think he'd say?


If it's for the race I have internal access for he might give a broad hint :D
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Post by: WMCoolmon on March 01, 2005, 11:32:46 am
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Originally posted by Raa
The speculation continues...


It's an egg!
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Post by: Taristin on March 01, 2005, 01:05:50 pm
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Originally posted by karajorma


If it's for the race I have internal access for he might give a broad hint :D


hint.... grin.... same thing.
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Post by: Liberator on March 01, 2005, 08:11:58 pm
It's Hiigaran...
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Post by: Taristin on March 01, 2005, 08:26:27 pm
Bugger! No it's not!


*looks up Hiigaran*


Homeworld?!

Hmm... Is that a compliment, or a criticism? :confused:
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Post by: StratComm on March 01, 2005, 08:36:42 pm
Lib: that should be "It looks Hiigaran."  Statement of opinion rather than of fact.  If you wanted to go Homeworld with it, it'd be a HW2 Hiigaran/Bentusi hybrid.  But I don't think it's headed in that direction personally; I could see the influence if you gave it very similar textures, but not otherwise.
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Post by: Jal-18 on March 01, 2005, 08:46:28 pm
It's pretty close: at first glance I thought that was a Hiigaran Carrier in the second pic.
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Post by: Taristin on March 01, 2005, 08:50:34 pm
*has never played Homeworld*
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Post by: Knight Templar on March 01, 2005, 09:52:23 pm
KT is a big fan of varied angles when viewing models.
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Post by: Taristin on March 01, 2005, 10:15:37 pm
Raa doesn;t feel like showing off everything about this model.
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Post by: Black Wolf on March 02, 2005, 02:37:29 am
Black Wolf enjoys Cheese.
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Post by: Kie99 on March 02, 2005, 10:00:55 am
Kietotheworld enjoys spam
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Post by: Anaz on March 02, 2005, 05:54:02 pm
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Originally posted by Black Wolf
Black Wolf enjoys Cheese.


LIBERATE CHEESE! (http://warpstorm.com/community/index.php?topic=7726.0)
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Post by: Taristin on March 02, 2005, 07:02:31 pm
LOCK THIS THREAD! :p
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Post by: Grey Wolf on March 02, 2005, 10:20:21 pm
Rift the thread!
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Post by: KappaWing on March 03, 2005, 07:11:40 am
I think you should keep the model just the way it is. The blocky structure at the back won't be too noticable after skins are added. The model should probably be Vasudan, as the front is the most noticable part and it is very curved and Vasudanlike. My only suggestion would be to downgrade the size to a large corvette or very small destroyer. About twice as big as a Sobek. :)
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Post by: Knight Templar on March 03, 2005, 08:59:56 pm
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Originally posted by Anaz


LIBERATE CHEESE! (http://warpstorm.com/community/index.php?topic=7726.0)


VOTE JULIE PETERSON!
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Post by: Martinus on March 05, 2005, 08:38:17 pm
[color=66ff00]Can the spam guys.

I like the model, it's functional looking and has eye candy value.
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Post by: Taristin on March 05, 2005, 08:55:13 pm
Thank You. :)