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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Fineus on May 27, 2001, 04:38:00 am
Ok, I got bored so I decided to do a little mini project and make my own capital ship, based (of course) on the GTD Orion model. Heres the result thus far:

 (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/thunder/gtadthunder.jpg)

I'm not sure how much farther I'm going to take the project, but I hope you all like the reskin anyway  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Shrike on May 27, 2001, 04:39:00 am
funky skin
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Setekh on May 27, 2001, 04:55:00 am
Jealous of not having a ship named after you?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Nice lookin'. Looks a bit like the Galatea II, actually.

 (http://www.jw0011475.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Galatea%202v2.jpg)

Oh btw, I couldn't resist this.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

 
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Originally posted by Thunder:
Ok, I got bored so I decided to do a little mini project and make my own capital ship

 
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Originally posted by Thunder:
Ok, I wanted to show off, so I decided to do a little show off and make my own show off

You were asking for it.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Shrike on May 27, 2001, 04:59:00 am
setekh = icq?
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Fineus on May 27, 2001, 05:05:00 am
I hate you Setekh, but it's fair enough  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)

And I see what you mean about the Galatea, I'm hoping to add some bits and pieces if I get that far though...

Oh - and I'd join you both on ICQ but I have to do some stuff, I'll see you later if I can get on...

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Shrike on May 27, 2001, 05:08:00 am
Hurry up, I'm more fun when i'm drunk.
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Setekh on May 27, 2001, 05:11:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Setekh:
This is why we don't drink and post, kiddies.
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Shrike on May 27, 2001, 05:13:00 am
I think i like the skin on the thunder better, to tell you the truth.
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Fineus on May 27, 2001, 05:16:00 am
Glee!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

Does anyone know how to model and add turrets to a ship, I have a few alterations planned to make this thing live up to it's name sake...but it'll need more hitpoints to have the right surface area/firepower ratios...

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Shrike on May 27, 2001, 05:18:00 am
Get on ICQ..... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Setekh on May 27, 2001, 05:19:00 am
If you get on ICQ, I'll tell you.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Setekh on May 27, 2001, 05:20:00 am
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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Fineus on May 27, 2001, 05:32:00 am
I'm there...jeez - you guys know how to blackmail  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Fineus on May 27, 2001, 05:53:00 am
Ok, heres a mock-up of the Thunder with the added weapons hardpoints. If anyone has the ability to model this into the model and add the functioning weapons then please contact me as I don't hae a clue where to start. Thanks  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

 (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/thunder/thunder_weps.jpg)

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Setekh on May 27, 2001, 06:09:00 am
 
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I don't hae a clue

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Fineus on May 27, 2001, 06:13:00 am
And for my next render.... an AWACs getting chopped into tiny litle pieces and laughed at by everyone on the whole planet  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Setekh on May 27, 2001, 06:39:00 am
Just you wait till you see the GTI Masarea.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/devil.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Styxx on May 27, 2001, 06:44:00 am
Masarea, heh?
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Fineus on May 27, 2001, 06:47:00 am
I'm guessing thats an installation, but somehow I don't trust you  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Setekh on May 27, 2001, 07:32:00 am
Well, I'm an AWACS. The AWACS, in fact. So what do you expect?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: DragonClaw on May 27, 2001, 12:42:00 pm
 http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/Forum2/HTML/000238.html ("http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/Forum2/HTML/000238.html")

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Joey_21 on May 27, 2001, 01:25:00 pm
Hey Thunder. Nice render and all but didn't you guys notice that it is mirrored the opposite way?

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Kazan on May 27, 2001, 01:55:00 pm
you used the old pof2cob .. the model is mirrored on it's [truespace] XZ plane [in other words reverse all the y coordinates]

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Fineus on May 27, 2001, 02:43:00 pm
Setekh was the one who converted the file, I'm not sure what he used - but yes I'm aware that it mirrors it. Try and imagine it the other way around and thats what the ship will look like  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Sushi on May 27, 2001, 04:31:00 pm
There's no reason why we CAN'T have a lefty ship...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

What if you took two Orions, mirrored one, and merged them on the fighterbay side?



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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Fineus on May 27, 2001, 04:33:00 pm
I like the idea but I think by doing that you'd loose the whole "Orion" feel of the ship that everyone loves  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Snipes on May 27, 2001, 04:48:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Shrike:
I think i like the skin on the thunder better, to tell you the truth.

Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Woomeister on May 27, 2001, 05:07:00 pm
Well I made the Galatea last November for FS1. I could do it better now, but most of my fleet fits with this now so I won't change it. The only thing I changed was the name, it's now SOC Galatea instead of GTI Galatea II.

Nice ship btw
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Setekh on May 27, 2001, 06:53:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Thunder:
Setekh was the one who converted the file

Favour by Setekh #640  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Snipes on May 27, 2001, 07:05:00 pm
You have them catalogued?
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Martinus on May 29, 2001, 07:13:00 pm
GTAD Thunder?

Get Thunder A new Design

Why do you ppl not create personal capships? It's fun!!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Shrike on May 29, 2001, 07:19:00 pm
heh heh heh.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Snipes on May 29, 2001, 07:36:00 pm
I had one, but it got blowed up... damn bastion  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Bobboau on May 30, 2001, 12:18:00 am
I know how, have you seen BWO, we have several ships (including the Orion) that are rebuilt, I can send you a basic orion redy for convertion, but you would need to rebuild the turret... data

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Starwing on May 30, 2001, 12:20:00 am
I have an entire fleet of personal capships...
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Fineus on May 30, 2001, 01:54:00 am
Thanks Bobboau, although Styxx is going to add some turrets for me, I don't know when he will - but I'd be very greatful if you could send e the mode anyway, that way I could get to work on making the new main weapon and balancing it all out.

Oh, and to everyone else: god knows I'd love to have a personal capitalship - but I can't model (not totally true, I can make a box). And besides - I love the Orions design!

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Martinus on May 30, 2001, 02:59:00 pm
Draw a picture of what you want and I'll see if I can at least throw a model together for you  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Culloden on May 30, 2001, 03:05:00 pm
Thats a nice ship, Thunder, but personally, I think GTD CULLODEN would be a better name  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Jabu on May 30, 2001, 03:27:00 pm
My personal flagship ("http://koti.mbnet.fi/jabu/lucy.jpg")  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

Or if I want to tone down for story reasons or something... I'll go Terran ("http://koti.mbnet.fi/jabu/starwave.jpg")  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Like anyone cares anyway...
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Martinus on May 30, 2001, 11:12:00 pm
My personal destroyer (until the Mars is finished).

 (http://www.maeglamor.freeuk.com/mothership1.jpg)

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Setekh on May 31, 2001, 02:53:00 am
 
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Originally posted on Jabu's site:
 (http://koti.mbnet.fi/jabu/starwave.jpg)
 (http://koti.mbnet.fi/jabu/lucy.jpg)

Nice...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

I wanna see the Starwave in action.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Jabu on May 31, 2001, 03:00:00 am
You will  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Setekh on May 31, 2001, 03:04:00 am
You beauty.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif) Ever considered doing renders with your new ships?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Jabu on May 31, 2001, 03:20:00 am
I don't really do many renders these days. Especially since I pretty much have to use trueSpace if I want to keep the textures. I wish Blender could load textured cobs... it's so much better for rendering  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Setekh on May 31, 2001, 03:24:00 am
Are people still developing Blender? Email them and ask.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Jabu on May 31, 2001, 03:33:00 am
Yes they are, they pretty much have a new version every two months   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Blender DOES have some kind of cob import, or will have very soon, because if I try to load a cob, it doesn't complain but doesn't show anything either. On lwo it just says "File type not recognised".

[EDIT]MONTHS, not weeks.

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Setekh on May 31, 2001, 03:36:00 am
That's comforting to know. So there's light at the end of the tunnel  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Fineus on May 31, 2001, 12:21:00 pm
Very nice ship Jabu! I actually like the colour scheme on that Orion (and I think that good Orion skins are few and far between personally).

And Maeglamor, thanks for the offer on that - Styxx is doing one for me but If you want something to do then feel free to attempt it. Basically I'd like turrets placed where there are little coloured dots on my second image of the Thunder. But don't feel you have to if you don't want to  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Jabu on May 31, 2001, 03:31:00 pm
That skin was only a quick-fix for the FS2 Story Debate in Spacebattles. As I said there, all I did was colorize the textures in PSP  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

I'll improve them for a more final version.
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: delta_7890 on June 01, 2001, 07:28:00 am
I've been drawing concept art for my own desroyer class.  I have it pretty much down pat, but my Rhino demo only has two more saves left, so I'm very cautious about saving.  (It takes over an hour to download on my 56k modem.  If only I could cut&paste my model in rhino to blender!)  Oh well.  The design itself was similar to the Golgotha but had a more Shivan look to it, a kind of hybrid I suppose.  Though it's only one ship, in reality I would have two of them working in tandem with each other (hence the name GTD Gemini.) making them very deadly.  Of course they still pose a threat if only one is present, but they MUST be together if they're main weapon is to be used in its full power.

Delta
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Setekh on June 01, 2001, 08:06:00 am
It sounds fantastic - it is a pity about Rhino and Blender.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif) However, I must say that it is amazing to see the standard of mods - new models and skins definitely not the least of which - has been increasing steadily over the months, and nowadays, every new thing to come out is stunning. Kudos.
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: morris13 on June 01, 2001, 10:59:00 am
can't rhino save in DXF?
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: QXMX on June 01, 2001, 11:25:00 am
Sweet design dude.

You really want this ship armed to the teeth, you're putting turrets on the fighter launch platform  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Fineus on June 01, 2001, 12:07:00 pm
You have no idea  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
I've got visions of dual flak cannons providing fighter cover as a wing of Erinyes climb out of the fighterbay, it'd be beautiful.

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Setekh on June 02, 2001, 04:28:00 am
Why would a wing of Erinyes need fighter cover? They are fighters.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Culloden on June 02, 2001, 04:32:00 am
I have a beautiful idea for a ship, but I can't MOD it.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Setekh on June 02, 2001, 04:45:00 am
Maybe you should tell us, and we can try. Or you could learn  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Culloden on June 02, 2001, 05:36:00 am
Hmm. Maybe I could learn. Anyone know where I can get a free 3D design program thing?
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Setekh on June 02, 2001, 05:48:00 am
Blender ("http://www.blender.nl[/url") is a free modelling program, used by quite a few people, though it has a steep learning curve (or so I'm told). Various versions of trueSpace trials are available, head to Caligari.com ("http://www.caligari.com") for the latest one, which will last 30 days. There is a place to get TS1 for free - I can't remember the link. Someone around here knows  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Fineus on June 02, 2001, 05:54:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Setekh:
Why would a wing of Erinyes need fighter cover? They are fighters.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

Do you have the ability to start shooting as soon as you get in the cockpit? not many do, and besides - it'd look cool  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Culloden on June 02, 2001, 05:59:00 am
 
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Blender ("http://www.blender.nl[/url") is a free modelling program, used by quite a few people, though it has a steep learning curve (or so I'm told). Various versions of trueSpace trials are available, head to Caligari.com ("http://www.caligari.com") for the latest one, which will last 30 days. There is a place to get TS1 for free - I can't remember the link. Someone around here knows   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Thanks. I'm getting them both now.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Setekh on June 02, 2001, 06:02:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Thunder:
Do you have the ability to start shooting as soon as you get in the cockpit? not many do

Well I imagine you'd be in the cockpit a while before you launch.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

Okay, I concede the look cool thing.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Setekh on June 02, 2001, 06:05:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Culloden:
Thanks. I'm getting them both now.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

You're welcome. Hope they help. If you have any questions, ask around here, cos there's plenty of people able to help.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Martinus on June 02, 2001, 12:46:00 pm
Here's the link to Truespace 1. Two things to note though, the reg code is on the page below the download links and there's a bug with the UVW mapper in it.
 www.pcplus.co.uk/article.asp?ID=8556 ("http://www.pcplus.co.uk/article.asp?ID=8556")

You staff guys might want to post this link on the site.

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Starwing on June 03, 2001, 05:41:00 am
What kind of bug? The one that opens as soon as you click on the TrueSpace icon?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: QXMX on June 07, 2001, 10:57:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Thunder:
You have no idea   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
I've got visions of dual flak cannons providing fighter cover as a wing of Erinyes climb out of the fighterbay, it'd be beautiful.


It'd be one tough ship to take down.  Like the Hades(so I've heard  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) )



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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: QXMX on June 07, 2001, 10:58:00 am
 
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You will   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

I like the green tint.


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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Setekh on June 07, 2001, 04:42:00 pm
 
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It'd be one tough ship to take down.

Nah. Just disable one side, tape down the fire button and go read a good book.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: QXMX on June 07, 2001, 07:26:00 pm
Capital Tag?  Wouldn't you need torpedoes to give it a new hole  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: NeoHunter on June 08, 2001, 02:40:00 am
I like the design, Maeglamor. Now to put some skins on it then.......

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Not to mention a FREDder! :)
Title: GTAD Thunder
Post by: Nico on June 08, 2001, 12:06:00 pm
 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif) I can make about any design I want, but I can't have my personal capship fopr a single stupid reason: I could never have any subobject to do, whatever I try  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)
- Killmenow turreted my Scylla, but for a personal capship, a small shivan corvette, I've seen better...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)-

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