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Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: Carl on March 10, 2005, 08:02:14 pm
Did i just see Anakin blow up a bunch of ships with his mind? :eek:
Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: neo_hermes on March 10, 2005, 08:12:34 pm
that was a great trailer. :D
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Post by: Striker on March 10, 2005, 08:48:14 pm
( in response to carl) I don't think so.
But I know I saw Palpatine whoop up AS Palpatine, Anakin in Sith robes leading a company of clones into the Jedi temple, and Yoda hopping up on flying senate pods. Oh, and a Palpatine vs. Yoda battle.
Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: redmenace on March 10, 2005, 08:59:19 pm
umm where can I see this?
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Post by: neo_hermes on March 10, 2005, 09:03:17 pm
it came on after the O.C.

if ya want to see the trailer you'll have to go see the Robots movie.
Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: Deepblue on March 10, 2005, 09:32:24 pm
I would have watched it except... O.C...
Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: Goober5000 on March 10, 2005, 09:58:16 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Striker
Oh, and a Palpatine vs. Yoda battle.
That might be a letdown.  How can it end in anything but a draw?
Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: neo_hermes on March 10, 2005, 10:41:56 pm
it might not be Palpatine it could be dooku.
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Post by: Mongoose on March 11, 2005, 12:06:24 am
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Originally posted by Goober5000
That might be a letdown.  How can it end in anything but a draw?

Sounds like the movie as a whole. :p
Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: JR2000Z on March 11, 2005, 12:40:51 am
http://s14.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1TQZ52ZOB8JII26EPBZ33C4D97
45 Meg version

http://www.arguewithatree.com/Assets/Episode3Trailer.mov
5 meg version
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 11, 2005, 03:59:38 am
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Originally posted by Goober5000
That might be a letdown.  How can it end in anything but a draw?


"If you strike me down do you, become stronger than you can imagine will I"
Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: Dark_4ce on March 11, 2005, 07:29:06 am
Heh. You forgot the "Hmmm?!" At the end. :D

In all honesty that trailer just blew me away to the point that I was almost falling out of my chair. Tis da über sweet. :yes:
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Post by: übermetroid on March 11, 2005, 09:12:42 am
must down load.................. :D
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Post by: vyper on March 11, 2005, 09:31:40 am
Holy. ****. :D
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Post by: übermetroid on March 11, 2005, 09:33:25 am
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Originally posted by neo_hermes
it might not be Palpatine it could be dooku.


That fight looks like it is going to be just like in ep6 with Luke vs Vader on the DS2.

oh man oh man oh man oh man oh man oh man oh man oh man oh man oh man ..................  !
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Post by: redmenace on March 11, 2005, 11:38:40 am
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Originally posted by JR2000Z
http://s14.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1TQZ52ZOB8JII26EPBZ33C4D97
45 Meg version

http://www.arguewithatree.com/Assets/Episode3Trailer.mov
5 meg version

can you post the large one again please?
Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: Gloriano on March 11, 2005, 12:22:10 pm
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Originally posted by Goober5000
That might be a letdown.  How can it end in anything but a draw?


Yoda falls when Palpatine strikes him down with force lightning.


http://www.movie-list.net/exclusive/star-wars-ep3-trailer-hd-640.mov
Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: RedgeTester on March 11, 2005, 12:45:14 pm
Was that Windu being blown up in the fighter?
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Post by: Dough with Fish on March 11, 2005, 12:52:43 pm
Goddamn wookies man!

And did anyone else see the "new" helmets for the clones, talk about foreshadowing lol. Also, they have the AT-MT (the huge tank-thing) which is sweet, since it's from the Expanded Universe. Also a Corellian Corvette makes an appearance. I think that this one might actually be good!
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Post by: redmenace on March 11, 2005, 04:07:45 pm
:eek2:
This actually makes me want to go and see it.

As per the Correlian Corvette, I think they changed it some what.
Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: Carl on March 11, 2005, 07:36:59 pm
well yeah, the 3D model is going to be a bit different than the physical one. Darth Vader's helmet is a bit different, too.
Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: Omniscaper on March 11, 2005, 07:53:09 pm
Looks like its fresh from the assembly line. Perhaps it was cutting edge tech during the time.

(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Screenshots/Corv4.jpg)
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Screenshots/Corv.jpg)
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Screenshots/Corv2.jpg)
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Screenshots/Corv3.jpg)




Looks Like Palpy is playing frisbee with Yoda.. AWESOME!!!!

(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Screenshots/Frisbee.jpg)
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Screenshots/Frisbee2.jpg)
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Screenshots/Frisbee3.jpg)
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Screenshots/Frisbee4.jpg)
Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: redmenace on March 11, 2005, 08:47:41 pm
Why does palpatines face change so drastically?
Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: Drew on March 11, 2005, 09:04:34 pm
awesome

this one dosnt look like half the letdown of the others
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Post by: Ford Prefect on March 11, 2005, 09:51:44 pm
I am going to bring a change of pants to this film.
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Post by: Ace on March 11, 2005, 09:53:42 pm
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Originally posted by redmenace
Why does palpatines face change so drastically?


Because he realised that he's not a true Sith Lord with evil Sithy powers like:
[SIZE=32]DARTH NIHILUS!!!1111[/SIZE]
Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: redmenace on March 11, 2005, 11:06:33 pm
What?
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Post by: Zuljin on March 12, 2005, 02:11:29 am
Go play KoTOR 2 and you'll understand it :D
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Post by: CmdKewin on March 12, 2005, 04:56:19 am
Awesome. It absolutely blew my mind.

Can't wait.
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Post by: Gloriano on March 12, 2005, 06:05:23 am
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Originally posted by redmenace
Why does palpatines face change so drastically?


I do think that it's some kind force trick that he has used to hide his true self or it's just human mask he has been using


Quote
Originally posted by Ace


Because he realised that he's not a true Sith Lord with evil Sithy powers like:
[SIZE=32]DARTH NIHILUS!!!1111[/SIZE]



heh quite trues
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 12, 2005, 08:10:12 am
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Originally posted by Ace


Because he realised that he's not a true Sith Lord with evil Sithy powers like:
[SIZE=32]DARTH NIHILUS!!!1111[/SIZE]


He does have the advantage of being able to speak, though.
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Post by: Zuljin on March 12, 2005, 08:12:32 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14


He does have the advantage of being able to speak, though.


Well technically Nihilus can speak it's just that.. just about no one understands him :p
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Post by: BlackDove on March 12, 2005, 08:48:36 am
Well.....we saw Anakin fighting Dooku......man I wonder how that'll turn out.

Anyway, looks promising. Hope it isn't jacked up like the other two are.
Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: Ace on March 12, 2005, 12:44:19 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14


He does have the advantage of being able to speak, though.


You do gotta give Palpy that... but actions speak louder than words. Especially when killing off most of the Jedi Masters without even lifting a finger ;)
Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: Dark_4ce on March 12, 2005, 02:17:32 pm
"You threatening me, master jedi?"

Man that gave me chills...
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Post by: Corsair on March 12, 2005, 05:00:09 pm
Whoa... that was awesome. There is hope! Redemption may yet come!

(and not a single appearance of Jar Jar)
Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: Carl on March 12, 2005, 05:08:22 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/Carltheshivan/82f83ad9.jpg)

STAR DESTROYERZ!!!!1111
Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: Ghost on March 13, 2005, 12:11:53 am
Yes indeed, no Jar Jar yet. My dad brought up a good point... somebody's going to have to go kill all the children, and it's likely going to be Anakin. This movie's going to be so dark.. oh well.. we know what happens anyway, right? It's gonna be ****in awesome... hopefully. We've been let down before.
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Post by: Bobboau on March 13, 2005, 01:05:14 am
maybe... I will see this... maybe...
Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: Ashrak on March 13, 2005, 01:15:35 am
im gonna go see the exploooozionz
Title: Revenge of The Sith Trailer (spoliers)
Post by: redmenace on March 13, 2005, 01:45:57 am
As per the children:
what if the emporer takes them and makes them siths...or those dudes in the red robes in ROTJ.
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Post by: Gloriano on March 13, 2005, 02:57:55 am
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Originally posted by redmenace
As per the children:
what if the emporer takes them and makes them siths...or those dudes in the red robes in ROTJ.


Jed childrens are killed in temple.:(
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Post by: Ashrak on March 13, 2005, 03:38:00 am
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Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano


Jed childrens are killed in temple.:(




awwwww this was suposed to be a "Dark Movie" ... didnt lucas make a kiddie version of it too?
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Post by: Fineus on March 13, 2005, 05:23:31 am
Looks pretty damn fantastic.. but then so did Episode 1 when the trailer for that came out so I'm not about to get too excited just yet.

As an aside, it looks like most if not all of the fighting takes place on/around Coruscant (I just realised that the location of Yoda/Palpatines fight is the senates council chamber... those "frisbies" are the platforms they used to talk to float about on and shout at eachother on...

There's a lot of references to the coming Empire though, prototype TIE fighters and an Imperial shuttle shown during the opening scene... Star Destroyers and so forth... and Anakin being suitably angsty as usual. If only those damn tribesmen hadn't killed his mother, the fate of the galaxy could've been so much more pleasent for everyone ;)
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Post by: Sandwich on March 13, 2005, 05:25:03 am
Oh puhleese... those "Star Destroyers" aren't. They're the big landing craft (very big, mind you) from the end of EP II. Readily identifiable by that tail they have sticking out the back.

And yeah, on the face of it, it looks pretty good. But like Thunder said, so did Ep I (and II). I'm not getting my hopes up.

Though of course I will go see it. :p
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Post by: Fineus on March 13, 2005, 05:35:50 am
Nothing to say that those landing craft aren't prototype SDs though, is there? I mean they have to get the idea from somewhere...
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Post by: Ghost on March 13, 2005, 10:05:04 am
Yeah... Sandwich, those are Star Destroyer's predecessors. It's really quite obvious... also, if you look in the Guide to Vehicles and Vessels, it says Star Destroyers were first developed for the Republic.

And guys.. those tank things? Those are Juggernaughts. Finally, Lucas is taking something cool from the expanded universe...
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Post by: SadisticSid on March 13, 2005, 10:34:48 am
Looking forward to seeing the Emperor kicking some Jedi ass. Hopefully it won't leave me in tears of laughter like the Dooku-Yoda fight.
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Post by: Ford Prefect on March 13, 2005, 11:28:19 am
Dooku is fairly lame as Siths go. He's just Palpatine's temporary b!tch until he can seduce Anakin.
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Post by: Stealth on March 13, 2005, 12:07:52 pm
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Originally posted by redmenace
As per the children:
what if the emporer takes them and makes them siths...or those dudes in the red robes in ROTJ.


those guys in red robes were just the emperor's personal guards, weren't they?
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Post by: RedgeTester on March 13, 2005, 12:16:41 pm
Imperial Guards, IIRC.

I think they might've been force-sensetive, but not trained in the use of it.
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Post by: redmenace on March 13, 2005, 12:31:17 pm
Weird question though, if the emporer is so powerful why does he need personal gaurds?
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Post by: phatosealpha on March 13, 2005, 01:34:54 pm
In case some farmboy comes along and convinces his manservant to toss him down an energy shaft?
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Post by: RedgeTester on March 13, 2005, 01:41:18 pm
I think they're mostly ceremonial.

But Palpatine isn't invulnerable. Sure, he can kick the ass of pretty much anyone in the galaxy, but if he got rushed by enough people he'd need some cannon fodder so he could run without being shot in the back.
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 13, 2005, 01:42:23 pm
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Originally posted by redmenace
Weird question though, if the emporer is so powerful why does he need personal gaurds?


Why fight when someone else can die for you?
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Post by: Gai Daigoji on March 13, 2005, 04:20:42 pm
OH YEAH BABY! This film is so gonna rock, cant wait for it to come out!
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Post by: Sandwich on March 13, 2005, 05:16:38 pm
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Originally posted by Ghost
Yeah... Sandwich, those are Star Destroyer's predecessors. It's really quite obvious... also, if you look in the Guide to Vehicles and Vessels, it says Star Destroyers were first developed for the Republic.


No duh, really? The spearhead-shaped hulls didn't give it away AT ALL, honest!!!oneone

:rolleyes:

Doesn't negate the fact that those aren't "Star Destroyers" though - they're Acclamator-class trans-galactic military transport ships - aka. Republic Assault Ships (http://www.starwars.com/databank/starship/republicassaultship/). :D

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Originally posted by SadisticSid
Hopefully it won't leave me in tears of laughter like the Dooku-Yoda fight.



I couldn't agree more. Freakin' green bouncy ball. :ick:

As for the red-cloaked Elite Guards, I don't get it. Why does everyone think they're all that? I mean, Obi-wan said himself that those "blast points, too accurate for Sand People. Only Imperial stormtrooper are so precise."

And then, of course, we see all over the Death Star that Imperial Stormtroopers can't hit the broadside of a barn door at 10 paces. :rolleyes:

Which leads to the question: If the Elite Guard are so good, is it a relative "good" or an absolute "good"? Cuz I gotta say, the relative "good" ain't worth crap. :lol:
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 13, 2005, 05:32:16 pm
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Originally posted by Sandwich

Which leads to the question: If the Elite Guard are so good, is it a relative "good" or an absolute "good"? Cuz I gotta say, the relative "good" ain't worth crap. :lol:


Maybe the Emperor likes playing ping pong and needs a steady supply of opponents?
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Post by: Deepblue on March 13, 2005, 05:42:47 pm
:lol:
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Post by: Ghost on March 13, 2005, 05:45:05 pm
Aldo.. I have a question. Whatever you're on, can I have some?


Sandwich: I didn't say they were SDs. It's obvious that they aren't... anywho. I generally don't go by the prequels; all my knowledge comes from the expanded universe and the original Trilogy.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on March 13, 2005, 05:40:08 pm
Maybe his Elite Guard is just there to make him feel more 1337, sort of like the random Sith you fight your way through in KotOR on your way to slicing open Malak.
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 13, 2005, 05:49:21 pm
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf
Maybe his Elite Guard is just there to make him feel more 1337, sort of like the random Sith you fight your way through in KotOR on your way to slicing open Malak.


Which is really a very crap job.  What must the description have been?

WANTED
Stormtroopers.  Ages 18-45.  Must be willing to travel.

Job responsibilities include being unable to hit a barndoor with a laser at 3 yards, cleaning bathrooms, being choked by a big goth geezer*, getting cut in half by laser-sword.  

Salary negotiable based on experiences; we have an extensive dental care package.  Smugglers secretly impersonating loyal servants to rescue space princesses need not apply.[/i]


*he's a pasty faced moany git wearing all black with dark eyes; thus, Darth Vader is a goth.
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Post by: Sandwich on March 13, 2005, 06:21:13 pm
You forgot:

Must be a clone of Jango Fett. :rolleyes:
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Post by: Grey Wolf on March 13, 2005, 06:17:36 pm
Nah, they stopped that. Too expensive. Far easier to put up some propaganda posters and offer some money to poor people to do it instead.

EDIT: As a note, this post goes after Sandwich's.
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Post by: Ghost on March 13, 2005, 06:37:54 pm
Yeah, but somewhere along the line they got a training academy, so they stopped being clones, hence they become "stormtroopers." If my memory serves, it was on Carida.
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Post by: Sandwich on March 13, 2005, 07:32:39 pm
Carida was written / invented before Ep II. But even so, clones may have the same physical abilities as their template, but they still need to learn the skills to make use of those abilities.
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Post by: Ghost on March 13, 2005, 08:12:16 pm
Yeah, I know, but the stormtroopers were never intended to be clones, until Episode II came around.  Han Solo trained at Carida, did you know that? It's an academy, much like West Point... somewhere along the line, Palpatine has to take over the cloning facilities and hold them for making clones of himself. Besides, didn't you hear the guy on Kamino saying that they learn everything they need for combat in the cloning center?
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Post by: Mongoose on March 13, 2005, 08:41:07 pm
Who says that all of the stormtroopers at the time of the original trilogy have to be clones?  That's a full 18 years or so later, a long time for all of those clones to still be around.  The Empire would need a large influx of new troops, so I'm guessing that they trained regular grunts besides possibly continuing the cloning activities.  After all, wasn't it written somewhere that Han overheard some stormtroopers on the first Death Star talking about their families or what they were going to do when they got leave?  Doesn't seem very clone-ish to me.
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Post by: Ghost on March 13, 2005, 09:31:47 pm
That's what I'm saying... I'm just having difficulty putting it into words. And it wasn't Han; the stormtroopers were talking about vacation spots when Obi Wan was screwing around with the tractor beam.
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Post by: Carl on March 13, 2005, 10:36:12 pm
Leia: "aren't you a little short to be a storm trooper?"

This was said without any suprise or suspicion that he actually wasn't one. if they were all clones, then there is no way he could have been one if he was shorter than the rest, so Leia should have known he wasn't, unless of course she didn't know that they were clones.
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Post by: Corsair on March 13, 2005, 10:47:34 pm
I think that Han went to the Imperial Academy as a pilot, not as a stormtrooper. But I agree, I think that probably by Episode IV, the stormtroopers aren't all clones. Probably some still are but I don't see it being that they all are. There's too much evidence saying that they're not.
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Post by: Gloriano on March 14, 2005, 03:33:01 am
There is rumor that there going to be first Star Destroyers in EP3
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 14, 2005, 04:01:09 am
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Originally posted by Carl
Leia: "aren't you a little short to be a storm trooper?"

This was said without any suprise or suspicion that he actually wasn't one. if they were all clones, then there is no way he could have been one if he was shorter than the rest, so Leia should have known he wasn't, unless of course she didn't know that they were clones.


Stumpy clones; they were put in a test tube that was just a wee bit too short fit them in properly.

NB: the Star Wars databank doesn't say they are, and doesn't really say they aren't; http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/stormtroopers/index.html

It's nice and contradictory.  Which isn't really surprising, as they tend to rewrite that thing every 5 bloody minutes to retcon it..... perhaps the new film will show the cloning tubes in Kamino being destroyed, and solve that little issue.  Either that or a vast clone vs stormtrooper (Empire clones) battle?
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Post by: Sandwich on March 14, 2005, 04:37:25 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14
NB: the Star Wars databank doesn't say they are, and doesn't really say they aren't; http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/stormtroopers/index.html


Ah, but look:

[q]Height: 1.83 meters[/q]

They're all 1.83 meters!! They've got to be clones!! :p
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 14, 2005, 04:43:27 am
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Originally posted by Sandwich

[q]Height: 1.83 meters[/q]

They're all 1.83 meters!! They've got to be clones!! :p


Nah, that's just the height requirement.  Otherwise they'd have to let Ewoks apply.
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Post by: Ford Prefect on March 14, 2005, 02:07:41 pm
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Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano
There is rumor that there going to be first Star Destroyers in EP3

Those'll be the Victory class, I imagine.
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Post by: TopAce on March 14, 2005, 04:14:20 pm
There will be no Victory-class in Episode III, despite they were developed at the end of the Clone Wars. VSDs are the most powerful starships of that era, which is a reason I terribly miss them from this film. I know the reason why there won't be any: This episode focuses on Jedi. As a compensation, there will be more lightsaber battle in this episode than in the other five episodes added.

I wonder... will we see C3-PO's memory erased?

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Originally posted by Kalfireth
....If only those damn tribesmen hadn't killed his mother, the fate of the galaxy could've been so much more pleasent for everyone ;)


Don't ban me for this, but I don't agree. Anakin was found dangerous even before his training actually began. He ends up at the Dark Side anyway, with all the anger and emotion he has. Remember the Jedi Code: There is no Emotion, There is peace.
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Post by: Ford Prefect on March 14, 2005, 04:42:32 pm
I'm beginning to think that Star Wars is actually the spearhead of a transcendentalist revival movement.
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Post by: Sandwich on March 14, 2005, 11:10:55 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14


Nah, that's just the height requirement.  Otherwise they'd have to let Ewoks apply.


Tell that to the poor bloke who banged his head on the doorway of the monitor room in EP IV. :lol:
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Post by: Dough with Fish on March 15, 2005, 12:02:26 am
I wonder if Dreadnaughts are going to make an apearance in this, because IIRC weren't they developed and brand new during the Clone Wars?
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Post by: Corsair on March 15, 2005, 01:03:34 am
The Katana fleet!!
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Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on March 15, 2005, 02:06:16 am
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Originally posted by Dough with Fish
I wonder if Dreadnaughts are going to make an apearance in this, because IIRC weren't they developed and brand new during the Clone Wars?


Small chance of that happening. Lucas doesn't care about EU stuff so we won't be seeing Victory-class, Dreadnaughts or Z-95.
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Post by: NGTM-1R on March 15, 2005, 03:01:47 am
There are X-WINGs in the trailer.

I'm going to put out a hit on Lucas within the hour.
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Post by: TopAce on March 15, 2005, 04:34:27 am
X-wings were developed one or two year(s) before the Battle of Yavin. At most, you will see some Z-95s or their predecessprs.

Dreadnaughts, on the other hand, are possible to appear, at least an older variant of it.
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 15, 2005, 05:01:00 am
It's called an ARC-170; this is (some of) the concept art for it
(http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/bts/artofrev/2004/08/img/ep3_art_170.jpg)
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Post by: Flipside on March 15, 2005, 05:05:04 am
It does look rather good, Mace Windu certainly appears to have a run-in with Palpatine, which could be more than a bit interesting, and the whole thing appears to have taken a leaf out of BattleStar Galacticas' book, Kudos to them :)
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Post by: Gloriano on March 15, 2005, 05:28:20 am
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ace Windu certainly appears to have a run-in with Palpatine, which could be more than a bit interesting


Spoiler:
and Mace Windu wins that lightsaber fight and is ready kill palpatine then Anaki comes in and stop that then palpatine uses force lightining and throws Windu through the window
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Post by: Ghost on March 15, 2005, 06:47:56 am
I want to kill myself now... but I can't ever resist reading what's in the spoiler boxes. Oh well.

Dough with Fish: did you watch the trailer? The Dreadnaught concept got turned into a clonetrooper transport. And those aren't quite X-Wings, like Aldo said. Nor are the other fighters in it quite TIEs.
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Post by: Carl on March 15, 2005, 07:51:04 am
Astrerik wings.
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Post by: Grug on March 15, 2005, 07:56:23 am
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Originally posted by Ghost
I want to kill myself now... but I can't ever resist reading what's in the spoiler boxes. Oh well.


:lol:

Anyway, overall I just hope the movie is good enough to make up for the rest of the crappy series... :doubt:
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Post by: übermetroid on March 15, 2005, 09:44:09 am
I am having such a hard time not reading about the plot.  I want to know, but then I realize I will have more fun if I dont, its back and fourth.
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Post by: Black Wolf on March 18, 2005, 02:16:35 am
So - anyone wanna give me odds that that volcanic planet is going to be Sullust?

http://www.starwars.com/databank/species/sullustan/?id=eu

It'd be cool if it was, but knowing Lucas, he'd rather just make up some random one rather than trying to link together the old movies with the new. I mean, Naboo was just crying out to be Alderaan.
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Post by: Gloriano on March 18, 2005, 08:43:49 am
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Originally posted by Black Wolf
So - anyone wanna give me odds that that volcanic planet is going to be Sullust?

http://www.starwars.com/databank/species/sullustan/?id=eu

It'd be cool if it was, but knowing Lucas, he'd rather just make up some random one rather than trying to link together the old movies with the new. I mean, Naboo was just crying out to be Alderaan.


That volcanic planet is Mustafar
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Post by: Corsair on March 18, 2005, 01:39:59 pm
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Originally posted by Black Wolf
So - anyone wanna give me odds that that volcanic planet is going to be Sullust?

http://www.starwars.com/databank/species/sullustan/?id=eu

It'd be cool if it was, but knowing Lucas, he'd rather just make up some random one rather than trying to link together the old movies with the new. I mean, Naboo was just crying out to be Alderaan.
Naboo should've. And I want this to be Sullust too. It'd just be a little nod to something small from the original trilogy... something that wouldn't be dicking with everything we know and like.
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Post by: TopAce on March 18, 2005, 03:00:24 pm
Sullustans apparently won't play part in Episode III, according to BW's link. Why should that planet be their homeworld?

Now that you mention Naboo: What do you think has become of Naboo? It hasn't been used anywhere in the era of the Civil War.
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Post by: Ghost on March 18, 2005, 03:13:38 pm
Has anyone else noticed the parallels between this and Return of the Jedi? It shows Anakin(instead of Luke) in front of a window with the space combat(specifically a Star Destroyer predecessor) in the background... The name is obviously similar... And plus the scene with a lightsaber duel between Anakin and Obiwan(I think), in front of Palpatine on his throne....
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Post by: TopAce on March 18, 2005, 03:17:10 pm
It's a Sih tradition that if a maverick Jedi is to take the place of the Sith Apprentice, they should fight in front of the Master. It's nothing special. Palpatine was so sure that Luke would join the Dark Side. After he defeated Vader, he tried to lure him finally to the dark side and urged him to take his father's place, knowing a Dark Luke will be more powerful than the Machine Anaking Skywalker.
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Post by: Corsair on March 18, 2005, 03:26:38 pm
Naboo is a pretty backwater planet, from what I understand. It was more or less a miracle that it got so much attention during the Clone Wars. Most likely, it was either more or less forgotten or it was razed by the newly-founded Empire for some purpose or another.
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Post by: Flipside on March 18, 2005, 03:29:27 pm
I'd send in the Star Destroyer just as payback for Jarjar.
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Post by: Corsair on March 18, 2005, 03:42:14 pm
Well looky here. Lucas calls Episode III "a tear-jerker." (http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/03/18/film.starwars.ap/index.html)

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This one's a little bit more emotional. We like to describe it as 'Titanic' in space.

And we all know what happened to the Titanic... :shaking:
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Post by: TopAce on March 18, 2005, 03:53:03 pm
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Luke and Leia's characters will appear as infants in "Revenge of the Sith."


I am not really sure this is a good idea.
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 18, 2005, 04:04:25 pm
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Originally posted by Ghost
Has anyone else noticed the parallels between this and Return of the Jedi? It shows Anakin(instead of Luke) in front of a window with the space combat(specifically a Star Destroyer predecessor) in the background... The name is obviously similar... And plus the scene with a lightsaber duel between Anakin and Obiwan(I think), in front of Palpatine on his throne....


I think the battle in particular definately is/will be a deliberate allusion to the RoTJ scene.... the path Luke didn't take, in many ways - and possible acting as a retcon to explain the Emperors' overconfidence.

I can't help but think it's going to be a bloody negative way to end the trilogy, though; pretty much everyone dies and the galaxy falls into darkness.

Yay!

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Originally posted by TopAce


I am not really sure this is a good idea.


Given that a major part of the ending / plot is their birth and hiding from the emperor, I can't think of any other way they could do it....
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Post by: Grey Wolf on March 18, 2005, 04:04:36 pm
I would hope that Naboo would be taken out, but it survives as shown by the end of Return of the Jedi Special Edition Mk. II (aka the DVD version).
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Post by: Ace on March 18, 2005, 04:50:22 pm
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Originally posted by Black Wolf
So - anyone wanna give me odds that that volcanic planet is going to be Sullust?

http://www.starwars.com/databank/species/sullustan/?id=eu

It'd be cool if it was, but knowing Lucas, he'd rather just make up some random one rather than trying to link together the old movies with the new. I mean, Naboo was just crying out to be Alderaan.


From what I've heard the planet is going to be 'Stennis.' KOTOR2 mentions that the Hissis come from there, and it's a planet of the ancient Sith, and I believe those are the big lizard creatures shown in the trailer.

Most likely from the few KOTOR3 rumors around Stennis is going to be a planet featured in it when it's made.

I do agree that "Naboo" should have been Alderaan. That way EPIV had a certain punch to it which wasn't there before when destroying a seemingly random planet.
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 18, 2005, 04:54:00 pm
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Originally posted by Ace


From what I've heard the planet is going to be 'Stennis.' KOTOR2 mentions that the Hissis come from there, and it's a planet of the ancient Sith, and I believe those are the big lizard creatures shown in the trailer.

Most likely from the few KOTOR3 rumors around Stennis is going to be a planet featured in it when it's made.

I do agree that "Naboo" should have been Alderaan. That way EPIV had a certain punch to it which wasn't there before when destroying a seemingly random planet.


You wouldn't exactly mourn the loss of the Gungans, though.......

I suspect Aldaraan will feature, though; but probably only in a brief shot at the end when Leia is hidden there.
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Post by: Flipside on March 18, 2005, 05:01:07 pm
Seems like a strange plan to keep her anonymous though, 'Let's give her to Alderaan's Royal family, they can make her a Princess and she can be a spy for the Rebellion!'.
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 18, 2005, 05:05:46 pm
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Originally posted by Flipside
Seems like a strange plan to keep her anonymous though, 'Let's give her to Alderaan's Royal family, they can make her a Princess and she can be a spy for the Rebellion!'.


And yet it was the moisture farmers' son that actually was first identified as Vaders' kid...... you'd think he'd notice his own daughter when she's locked up in his own space station for bloody ages, but nooooo.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on March 18, 2005, 05:08:53 pm
I'm fairly sure the spy for the Rebellion thing wasn't planned.  However, hiding in plain sight can work, if they did it right.
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Post by: Flipside on March 18, 2005, 05:13:32 pm
Obvuiusly whilst flying your Tie Advanced in the middle of a huge combat arena is the best time to start wondering about the genaelogy of the guy you are shooting at ;)

Of course, the Jedi like ability to figure out that sending Luke to his own uncle, and not even changing his name was an awesome way of keeping his hidden ;)

As far as the trailer is concerned,
 
Spoiler:

I think the lightning that hits Yoda is not Sideous, I think it's Dooku. I have a suspicion that Yoda will fake his wn death. The duel is most likely ol' Dooks as well, that would be more in running with the 'tradition'.


Edit : What I would have like to have seen was Yoda defeating Dooku on Dagobah, thus explaining the cave that Luke had to enter, but that, apparently, will not happen :(
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Post by: Grey Wolf on March 18, 2005, 05:18:07 pm
It seemed to me that the cave on Dagobah was far older. Hmm... Perhaps a nice tie-in for KotOR 3 :)
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 18, 2005, 05:25:15 pm
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Originally posted by Flipside
Obvuiusly whilst flying your Tie Advanced in the middle of a huge combat arena is the best time to start wondering about the genaelogy of the guy you are shooting at ;)

Of course, the Jedi like ability to figure out that sending Luke to his own uncle, and not even changing his name was an awesome way of keeping his hidden ;)

As far as the trailer is concerned,
 
Spoiler:

I think the lightning that hits Yoda is not Sideous, I think it's Dooku. I have a suspicion that Yoda will fake his wn death. The duel is most likely ol' Dooks as well, that would be more in running with the 'tradition'.


Edit : What I would have like to have seen was Yoda defeating Dooku on Dagobah, thus explaining the cave that Luke had to enter, but that, apparently, will not happen :( [/B]


Spoiler:

I read that Anakin defeats Dooku (whilst 'rescuing' the Emperor); the Emperor coerces him into executing Dooku, and thus begins to turn him....
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Post by: Carl on March 18, 2005, 06:00:57 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14


And yet it was the moisture farmers' son that actually was first identified as Vaders' kid...... you'd think he'd notice his own daughter when she's locked up in his own space station for bloody ages, but nooooo.


He didn't know he even had a daughter.
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 18, 2005, 06:05:36 pm
He worked out he had a son easily enough, though.
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Post by: Carl on March 18, 2005, 06:07:43 pm
he already knew he has a son. he thought Amidala was pregnant with one child, and not twins.
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Post by: Cobra on March 18, 2005, 10:52:01 pm
both trailer links are dead. :(
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Post by: Sandwich on March 19, 2005, 06:21:33 am
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Originally posted by Cobra
both trailer links are dead. :(


That's because it's up on http://www.starwars.com. Silly wabbit, Trix are for kids!
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Post by: TopAce on March 19, 2005, 10:44:41 am
To be honest, I didn't download the trailer from that link, neither from any of the other links given here. It had Hungarian subtitling, which made it clear that Yoda's special parlance won't appear in the translated version:
'Twisted by the Dark Side, young Skywalker has become'