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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: aldo_14 on March 18, 2005, 02:08:17 pm
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4361791.stm
Er.... this is just stupid, really. Can anyone understand the point of a rule "cannot have their head shaved or wear extreme hair fashions of any sort".... I mean, I can understand the former (if the kids doing so to act like a skinhead), and maybe the latter if it's something shaving '**** you' onto the back of their head, but it's still scarcely society destroying stuff.........
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Sucks for you brits :p
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LOL It's racism, pure and simple, it doesn't matter a gnats left testicle if the racism is against dark skinned, light skinned or purple bloody skinned, to exclude a girl for having a hairstyle that they do allow darker skinned pupils to have is blatant racism.
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What i don't understand in particular is, why braids? What's 'extreme' about them in the first place? The only thing even vaguely odd about them I can think of is that they are usually worn by someone of a darker skin colour...scarcely a good reason for a ban, surely?
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Exactly, in fact, there are 2 pupils at that very school who are darker skinned and have braids and have never been disciplined.
Quite frankly, her Dad was far too soft on the school, I'd have been quite blatant about pointing about that the policy is being conducted on a race-based theme, and that, if my daughters school has policies that promote racism, I wouldn't choose to return my daughter to ir anyway. But then, I'm like that, I work in Education and know exactly how vulnerable schools are to local opinion ;)
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Braids are very. very silly.
And ****.
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Well, people do have the right to look very very silly. Bill Gates is an awesome example.
Personally, I think they look bloody painful, but if she wants to wear them, what business is it of the schools?
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****ing hell.
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just be glad it's not the 50's, where you'd be suspsended for showing your belly button.
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That's exactly right Carl, it's not the 50's, we've learned a little tolerance sinc e then, I get angry when a I see schools trying to drag education back into the 50's like they were the good old days.
The fact is that the world has changed, and just like everything else, education has to change. Now, I'm not against more discipline at school at all, but discipline to protect the students, who are at risk, not because they wear a 'radical' hair style. If someone is going to get caned, it's not for their own good, it's because they are a vicious little coward who threatened a kid for money with a knife. I'm perfectly comfortable with that concept ;)
And yes, it could be that the kids father is doing the same thing to him every night, life is never easy, but then, how far can a schools responibility reach?
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We had a similar situation at school.
Mate of mine spent a fortune getting dreads done, then was told by the school he had to have them removed. ******s.
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Just sue 'em. You'd win.
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I'm both bored and annoyed by this
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I believe they're called cornrows. And they're very stupid.
The school was right, you have to make an example out of these sorts of people.
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The problem is Rictor, in this case 'These sort of people' are 'White people who wear a 'Black' hairstyle'. Which isn't equal treatment.
It's not a question of whether they look stupid, or are painful, I've seen people of her age walking around wearing sunglasses in the rain and in boiling sunshine in Duffle-coats, that's not the problem. The problem is that the rule should be applied across the board, fine, if you want to ban her from wearing braids, then do so, but also ban the other 2 girls who have braids. I bet their parents will have no qualms about calling it racism.
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Originally posted by Rictor
I believe they're called cornrows. And they're very stupid.
The school was right, you have to make an example out of these sorts of people.
I think you've got a point there, but there are black* pupils at that school who are allowed to wear "cornrows."
*has this word been banned in this topic? People have only said Darker Skinned" so far. If the word black offends you and you are thinking of flaming me then please click this link. (http://www.linuxmafia.com/~rick/pictures/stfu-big.png)
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I think they said darker skinned as one is of mixed race according to the article.
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I don't think it's overly offensive as such, as long as it's recognised as term used simply to save typing and not to bundle all Dark-skinned people into one big generic group :)
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Rictor, I assume you're joking.
Punishing a Person for doing something the school allows others of another race to do? That's just wrong. I'm all for seeing this school sued by the girl's parents.
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Oh please, when did we get so PC all of a sudden. Blacks, blacks, blacks! There, see?
I actually think this is completely stupid, there's no way a public school can tell you what sort of hairstyle of wear, same for clothes. Not if its compulsory anyway (the school I mean). The fact that they have a double standard just adds an extra layer of bull**** to the case.
However, my love of civil liberties is conflicting with my extreme dislike of stupid people, so I'm kind of torn on this one.
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Originally posted by Rictor
Oh please, when did we get so PC all of a sudden. Blacks, blacks, blacks! There, see?
I actually think this is completely stupid, there's no way a public school can tell you what sort of hairstyle of wear, same for clothes. Not if its compulsory anyway (the school I mean). The fact that they have a double standard just adds an extra layer of bull**** to the case.
However, my love of civil liberties is conflicting with my extreme dislike of stupid people, so I'm kind of torn on this one.
Actually, the reason for not using blacks is because one kid is mixed race.
Another thing is possibly that, for some reason, the colour black has tended to be a negative one throughout history; black and white, black hearted, etc. Possibly that plays on peoples minds a bit.
For me, I didn't use it because black & white are opposites; I prefer 'darker skinned' simply because it emphasises the only real difference is skin tone.
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I prefer black. It makes it easier on everyone. Darker skinned than who? A white person? Why are they a yard stick for anything?
Plus there's lot of people with darker skin. Basically it sounds like a way of lumping together everyone except the caucasians and some orientals.
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Neeegrooooooooo!!!!!
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Domo Amigato...
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She looks like a...word that the word filter would catch. ;)
But I completely agree with her.
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
She looks like a...word that the word filter would catch. ;)
Whigger? Putas? Brit?
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Originally posted by Scuddie
Domo Amigato...
That's "Domo arigato, Mister Roboto". Get your Styx references right :p
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Fine. You miss one letter, and everybody's after your throat. I'm outa here.
Gotta get me some dinner.
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Damnit, the Brits are catching up with us. Quick! We need mandatory chastity belts! Bar codes on everyone's neck! We can't let them win this game!
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there fatter than us now too...
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Bloody hell, that is completely ****ed up.
My school is rather tolerant about dress code, only T-shirts with the more explicit texts aren't allowed, and I haven't seen anyone wearing racist icons, and I doubt that'd be allowed, but the rest is all fair game.
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Well, I work in a training centre for teenagers, and we've had everything from braids to bright-pink and spiky, and the funny thing is that no matter what type of hairstyle the kid had, it had no effect whatsoever on their ability to learn or do a job or an exam. One of the best amdinistrators I ever taught had a ring through her nose and the word 'Death' tatooed to her arm.
That is what pisses me off.
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The only reason certain hairstyles might be considered bad is because they would be dangerous. IE: No long hair in a room with power tools unless you tie it up.
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The thing is, when you see a 60 year old with bright pink spiky hair, your first general impression is of someone who could never accept that their teenage years were over, even teenagers know that in their hearts.
So let 'em wear radical styles and stupid stuff while they can still get away with it. feeling you're free to express yourself isn't just, supposedly, a requirement of who we are, it's actually an incredibly good way of getting the best out of your employees, if schools and industry would get their heads out of the 50's and concern themselves more with the quality of their product and less with their sphere of influence.