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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Grey Wolf on March 18, 2005, 08:20:02 pm
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Seems they had some color quality issues :D
(http://www.dvdcc.com/images/misc/swdvdcaps/anh-saber2.jpg)
Just found this out as I was watching the DVD.
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wtf are those little things in the bottom right corner?
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It's the chess pieces in the millenium falcon, however, the way they are coloured, they look more like the Muppet chorus line ;)
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Luke has a damn nice Lightsabre.
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That's what she said.
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I assume you mean the incorrect coloring of the lightsaber? I'm pretty sure Luke's ANH saber is blue.
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Exactly. He doesn't get a green lightsabre until the very end of The Empire Strikes Back, after his father's (and his hand) fall from Cloud City.
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He had the best opportunity to kill Vader when he gave himself up on the Endor moon. All he had to do was build a trick lightsaber that opens at the wrong end, then when Vader turns it on to inspect his son's magnificent handiwork, he BBQs himself.
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:lol:@Ford
Err.... as far as the "intended" version goes... I'm not watching it. Everything I've heard about it just makes me sadder and sadder...
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errr...maybe the special atmosphere in the millenium falcon turns green when it's heated by something as hot as a lightsaber.
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Or maybe Lucas just ****ed up big time.
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no... NO!!! Lucas is God!
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Originally posted by Corsair
as far as the "intended" version goes... I'm not watching it. Everything I've heard about it just makes me sadder and sadder...
Same here. I have the original VHS versions; that's good enough for me.
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lucas didn't do it, it was the restoration.
Mongoose: The VHS is all you want? :eek2: you have no idea what you're missing.
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yeah, like all the dinosaurs he added!
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I wouldn't have gotten the DVDs if my VHS copy wasn't on its last legs. I'm just generally not impressed by the changes, especially the truly pointless ones.
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my VHS copies are in mint condition. :D
how can you say that about the changes? the special effects and ships don't look as crappy, and all that other junk.
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But... but... his schwartz is green!
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Let's see, negative changes from Episode IV:
-They ruined the Krayt Dragon roar that Obi-Wan uses.
-Mos Eisley is now populated by retarded looking dinosaurs.
-Replacement of the wolf man with the wierd reptilian thing (the wolf man, though cheaper, looked better)
-Greedo still shoots
-Gratuitous Boba Fett shot at the end of the Jabba scene.
Advantages would be the nicer color quality, with Luke's training period excluded, the lightsabres, and the Biggs scene.
On the ships, I'm sort of ambivalent. They look better, but in some scenes they just seem a bit off.
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you..are...an...INFIDEL. :mad2: if you like Episode IV, you wouldn't want the scenes and additions cut out.
the old krayt dragon roar was crappy, the new one was better.
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The biggest thing I hate about the added scenes in ANH is that the '97 CGI sticks out like a bantha in a ewok cannibal party. I mean, some of the poorer quality '77 shots are fine as they were all made with the same restrictions of the time. But when you add poor-quality CGI stuff in to the film all suspension of disbelief is lost.
Oh, and this site proves you the DVD's aren't quite that high-quality as you would think:
http://www.starwarslegacy.com/index.html
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf
Let's see, negative changes from Episode IV:
-They ruined the Krayt Dragon roar that Obi-Wan uses.
-Mos Eisley is now populated by retarded looking dinosaurs.
-Replacement of the wolf man with the wierd reptilian thing (the wolf man, though cheaper, looked better)
-Greedo still shoots
-Gratuitous Boba Fett shot at the end of the Jabba scene.
Advantages would be the nicer color quality, with Luke's training period excluded, the lightsabres, and the Biggs scene.
On the ships, I'm sort of ambivalent. They look better, but in some scenes they just seem a bit off.
...buh? Those aren't DVD changes. They're the special edition changes. I still have the VHS boxset of those.
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i have the first revision, the one where they just added new misc scenes and cleaned up some stuff. From '98 or somthing.
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Originally posted by Cobra
you..are...an...INFIDEL. :mad2: if you like Episode IV, you wouldn't want the scenes and additions cut out.
the old krayt dragon roar was crappy, the new one was better.
What can I say? I like the classic Star Wars, which, although a B-movie in every sense of the term, was a classic and well-done B-movie. The additional special effects and additions distract you from the actual storyline and clash with the original film.
Ransom, to tell you the truth I don't really care where the changes are from. I just honestly don't like them.
And Han shot first.
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I have the VHSs - which are probably worth something by now, but anyway, if you want a DVD Star Wars experience but don't want the horror of the "Intended Version," just get the anniversary edition Star Wars :)
And anyway, does anyone else think that Lucas is trapped in the 1930s? The guy is too busy paying "homages" to all the old Buck Roger shows (which are absolutely **** if you've seen them), with all they're multicolored rayguns with big rings around the barrel, than to actually make something cool.
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I think you will find that the Light Sabre luke is given is the last one that Anakin will lose before constructing his own under the Emperors tutelage. You may see some sort of explanation in Revenge of the Sith. Wait and see what colour Anakin's schwartz is and see if was genetically passed on ;)
And you leave Buck Rodgers alone, the show may have been crap but the babes were pretty damn fine for the time :p
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Originally posted by Lt.Cannonfodder
Oh, and this site proves you the DVD's aren't quite that high-quality as you would think:
http://www.starwarslegacy.com/index.html
That guy needs help.
Who volunteers? :)
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Originally posted by phatosealpha
I assume you mean the incorrect coloring of the lightsaber? I'm pretty sure Luke's ANH saber is blue.
Cyan. It's even stranger that Anakin used the exactly same lightsabre in Episodes II and III, but it's BLUE.
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Right on, Sandwich. :D
Edit: Look at that X-wing model he's working on. Imagine that thing in the Star Wars mod. :)
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Originally posted by Sandwich
That guy needs help.
Maybe, but he's such an excellent artist I can forgive him :D
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One thing that really disturbs me is that the entire starfield has been replaced. Seen left at top is the starfield on the DVD, below is the starfield seen on the Definitive Edition and Widescreen Laserdiscs.
:shaking:
There's only one fix - repainting the entire starfield, star at a time, by hand.
This was truly maddening. I didn't take the time to count as I was doing the painting, but there were tons of stars at various sizes. It took two solid days, but in the end, it lines up star for star with the original plate.
:eek2:
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Originally posted by Ford Prefect
But... but... his schwartz is green!
i feel compelled to show this now, thanks
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Turnsky/The%20Pad/DSC00509.jpg)
"ah, i see your schwartz is as big as mine....let's see how well you 'handle' it "
:p
and yes, that is from fable.
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Originally posted by Mongoose
Edit: Look at that X-wing model he's working on. Imagine that thing in the Star Wars mod. :)
if you're talking about me, thanks mongoose. :)
Darkwarrior's would actually make it into the SW TC, though.
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he wasn't talking about you Cobra, sorry.
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Seems Lucas' "Intended Version" is just a bit off
Judging from the prequels Lucas' intention was to make a vibrant universe and then cock it up. Looks like the DVD is doing what he intended.
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I dare someone to put that X-wing model into Freespace 2. :drevil:
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
I dare someone to put that X-wing model into Freespace 2. :drevil:
If I remember correctly, the model on the site is the low-poly version. The high-res version has much more bevelled edges. Yes, he's a pro :D
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I double-doggie-dare someone to put the high-poly version into FS2. :drevil:
And then use Bobb's animation code to make the S-Foils move. :devil:
And make R2 a BFRed turret. :p
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so once we're done scraping our molten processors and video cards out of our computers what do you want us to do?
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uh, whose Xwing are you talking about? the guy who's working on the restoration?
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Originally posted by Cobra
uh, whose Xwing are you talking about? the guy who's working on the restoration?
Did you even click on the link? :wtf:
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yesss.
i was just making sure. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Cobra
uh, whose Xwing are you talking about? the guy who's working on the restoration?
They're talking about this:
(http://www.starwarslegacy.com/site/images/XWing_Post1.jpg)
EDIT: I love that part:
Disclaimer:
The opinions expressed herein are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the views of certain other people, who are wrong. That's another opinion.
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That's low-poly for him? Some projects should hire this guy with special payment, probably $1.500 for a month. It takes after the movie X-wing.
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We have a different scale of "high poly" than artists do. We're game modding, so high poly to us is whatever pushes the engine to its limits, and so something that must be rendered and collision checked at least 30 times a second. For someone working with a render mesh, 100,000 polys barely breaks into the medium-poly field. Everything we do here is well within the low poly range. That X-wing is "low poly" (actually probably medium) because it has those big flat panels on the wings that are (I'd guess) not detailed in any way. Truely high poly would be the level of greebling that he's got already, plus full detail greebling (panel lines, etc) everywhere that's currently flat. And it's a fighter that's supposed to be in scenes by the dozens at least, so medium is probably the best range for it anyway.
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that's a hell of a cockpit.
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Originally posted by TopAce
That's low-poly for him? Some projects should hire this guy with special payment, probably $1.500 for a month. It takes after the movie X-wing.
He already is, he's a special effects guy who worked in a number of roles during film production.
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Originally posted by TopAce
That's low-poly for him? Some projects should hire this guy with special payment, probably $1.500 for a month. It takes after the movie X-wing.
That's not actually all that much, really.... $1,500 * 12 is $18,000 (~£9,000) per year... which is less than I make. And my job's ****.
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For a part time job, that wouldn't be bad, especially if it's just a side job.
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i can do it.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/Carltheshivan/ebe1f95d.jpg)