Hard Light Productions Forums

Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Andreas on March 23, 2005, 04:59:54 pm

Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Andreas on March 23, 2005, 04:59:54 pm: Strange question, but bear with me now! And no, I'm not insane :nervous:

I'm not talking (purely) in terms of loadout/performance, but the looks. So what is the most beautiful gunship existing? My choice is the Mi-24 Hind. The curviness and the blockiness of it are the things I like in it. It is a very utilitarian design, yet beautiful and elegant (and deadly). Wish I could fly it someday :sigh:
... ...
Did I scare everybody away already? :D
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Nuclear1 on March 23, 2005, 05:04:04 pm: No.

But I have decided that you're a Commie and therefore must die :p

And, being the American that I am, I see the AH-64 Apache as one of the sexiest pieces of flying machinery ever.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Flipside on March 23, 2005, 05:05:13 pm: Lynx. Worked on one of those at Farnborough, they are one sexy Machine ;) Oh, and a pilots opinion of an Apache was 'It looks nicer than it flies, but it's ok' ::)
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Fineus on March 23, 2005, 05:07:08 pm: I'm forced to agree, the Apache is an excellent attack helicopter both in looks and purpose.

That said, I'm more of a jet man myself. If you were to push me on that front I'd say the F16, F18 and SU27 are definitely amongst my favourites.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Flipside on March 23, 2005, 05:09:23 pm: LOL As far as jets are concerned, I'm an F14 man, practically the flying symbol of the Cold War, even if it's outdated these days :) Though the Harrier still inspires a little bit of homeland pride, even if were were stupid enough to contract out the design ;)
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Flaser on March 23, 2005, 05:15:02 pm: Outdated?

It's not much of a dogfighter, but it's still a hell of an advesary in a BVR fight.
Those phoenix are quite hard to dodge.

...though I tend to go against anything in a 2(bandits) vs. 1(me) with my Flanker.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Deepblue on March 23, 2005, 05:14:21 pm: AH-64 Apache owns joo!
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Andreas on March 23, 2005, 05:18:40 pm: Well, if we go into jets (going OT already?:p ) I would have to say that my favorites among them are the MiG-21, Su-15 and the Yak-28.

Yup, teh commie :drevil:
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Flipside on March 23, 2005, 05:25:30 pm: (http://www.army.mod.uk/img/equipment/ab/gazelle_2.jpg)

The Gazelle.... Anyone for a slice of Roast Weapons Officer? ;)

(http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/ah-cobra.jpg)

The SuperCobra :D
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Taristin on March 23, 2005, 05:26:10 pm: *doesn't know what any of these look like*

:nervous:

Edit:

*curses flipside for posting one moment before he did*
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Flipside on March 23, 2005, 05:27:53 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Raa

*curses flipside for posting one moment before he did*

That sentence hurts my brain...

Temporal loop sentences are dangerous ;)
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Deepblue on March 23, 2005, 05:30:49 pm: I'd say F-16, F-22, or the F-15.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Taristin on March 23, 2005, 05:34:39 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Flipside

That sentence hurts my brain...

Temporal loop sentences are dangerous ;)

Truly. Rereading it is paiful.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: redmenace on March 23, 2005, 05:52:50 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Flipside

(http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/ah-cobra.jpg)

The SuperCobra :D

:yes:
I love that helicopter. I see them all the time near quantico.
Excellent piece of hardware for close air support. Although Like all Helicopters have a inherrent weakness to RPGs.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Admiral Nelson on March 23, 2005, 05:52:44 pm: All the F-14s will be gone by 2006. The Phoenix is already retired....
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Gank on March 23, 2005, 06:04:12 pm: Jets the Su-34 is damn nice looking
(http://www.tiheisennoame.net/aircraft/su32/su34.jpg)

Plus its got an onboard bog.

Helos the Hind for looks alone, the Havok coming a close second:

(http://www.greendevils.com.pl/technika_wojskowa/lotnictwo/mi-28/mi_28_4.jpg)

Russians have always made nicer looking gear, ever since ww2
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: WeatherOp on March 23, 2005, 06:04:13 pm: My jet would be the F-15 Eagle, my copter would be the Apache or the Havoc.:D
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Nuclear1 on March 23, 2005, 06:05:38 pm: As for jets, I've got a thing for the way the F-22 looks. It's just so... streamlined and beautiful.

The F117 gets the odd looks department award though.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Flipside on March 23, 2005, 06:10:08 pm: (http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/mk1a.jpg)

Damn joo all! ;)
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Thrilla on March 23, 2005, 06:27:21 pm: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

(http://venus.ci.uw.edu.pl/~animal/military.pl/smiglowce/oh-6_cayuse/oh-6_3.jpg)

(http://www.aviation-art.net/p40%20kill.jpg)
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: redmenace on March 23, 2005, 06:27:51 pm: (http://www.spectrumwd.com/c130/image2/ac130_67.jpg)
(http://www.spectrumwd.com/c130/images/ac130_40.jpg)
(http://www.spectrumwd.com/c130/images/ac130_37.jpg)
(http://www.spectrumwd.com/c130/images/ac130_13.jpg)
:shaking:
Raining death and destruction since Vietnam.
(http://www.spectrumwd.com/c130/images/ac130_30.jpg)
Cambodia, 1969, umm yeah we weren't in cambodia...:nervous:
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Nuclear1 on March 23, 2005, 06:34:43 pm: Sure we were. Didn't you hear John Kerry's platform? :p

*derails thread*
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: redmenace on March 23, 2005, 06:36:49 pm: John Kerry had a platform? :p
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Gank on March 23, 2005, 06:39:09 pm: And next to useless against anyone with any decent form of air defense, even the Iraqis managed to bring one down in the gulf war. part of the reason they're being retired iirc
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: aldo_14 on March 23, 2005, 06:41:40 pm: Hind; most memorable IMO
Comanche was pretty cool looking (if it counts; it was cancelled last year or sometime before); so's the Eurocopter.
If you count them, also the Huey, simply because it's iconic.

On jets - the Harrier first (inherent coolness of VTOL), then the YF-22 (IIRC), and then the SU-2something Flanker (because I had a toy model of it when I was wee).
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Flipside on March 23, 2005, 06:42:40 pm: I must admit, I subscribe to the WWII school of aircraft painting. If I'm up there fighting, I want to be doing it in something with Tigers teeth and Angels wings ;)
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Unknown Target on March 23, 2005, 06:43:36 pm: Helicopters = ugly ass bastards, imho. You want beauty, get an airplane ;)
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: redmenace on March 23, 2005, 06:45:07 pm: it depends on the situation. if I were to use them in such cases of Somalia it would have made a difference. Basically, like many other specialized weapons, they have draw backs.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: MicroPsycho on March 23, 2005, 07:15:07 pm: Sticking with the intended topic I'd have to say the SuperCobra or....

......Sea King! j/k

As for planes:
(http://www.howto-onlinebooks.com/arrowps76.jpg)
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: NGTM-1R on March 24, 2005, 01:32:51 am: Helix...no, just kidding.

Russians build pretty jets (Tu-22M Backfire or even, god help me, the Tu-16 Badger), god-awful fugly helicopters.

Probably the AH-64. Lynx is pretty-looking in the side view, but it's not meant to be an attack helo so it doesn't have the sleekness.

WWII? Probably the A6M or the FW-190.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Andreas on March 24, 2005, 02:43:16 am: Quote
Originally posted by Gank
Russians have always made nicer looking gear, ever since ww2

:nod: And the Su-34 is one damn fine looking jet (although I like Su-37 more), even though I'm not really into jets.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Turnsky on March 24, 2005, 03:35:48 am: (http://www.aeronautics.ru/img001/s37berkutlarge.jpg)

su-47 berkut

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/s37/

need i say more? ;)
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Clave on March 24, 2005, 04:20:12 am: If you want the fastest and best chopper around, then the Merlin is the one :cool:

(http://www.airventure.de/helidays03/Merlin_1.jpg)
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Fineus on March 24, 2005, 04:35:55 am: Best? It's huge! Surely a magnet for all kinds of AA fire...
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: beatspete on March 24, 2005, 04:51:54 am: Quote
Originally posted by Clave
If you want the fastest and best chopper around, then the Merlin is the one :cool:

Hmm, I think its the Lynx that holds the speed record though.

Sikorsky CH54:

(http://www.redstone.army.mil/history/aviation/aircraft/ch-54.jpg)

Who cares if its not an attack chopper, it could drop some sort of giant novely anvil on your house.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Clave on March 24, 2005, 04:54:11 am: http://www.raf.mod.uk/equipment/merlin.html

It's not an attack copter though, which is disappointing, but it's damn fast! - 192mph

They should ditch the troop carrying capability, and load it up with Hellfires...
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: aldo_14 on March 24, 2005, 05:03:35 am: Quote
Originally posted by beatspete

Hmm, I think its the Lynx that holds the speed record though.

I checked that, actually;

Lynx is rated as 256kph, but holds the straight line record at about 302.

Merlin is rated as 309kph.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: TrashMan on March 24, 2005, 06:39:03 am: Quote
Originally posted by Flipside
LOL As far as jets are concerned, I'm an F14 man, practically the flying symbol of the Cold War, even if it's outdated these days :) Though the Harrier still inspires a little bit of homeland pride, even if were were stupid enough to contract out the design ;)

I'm an F-14 man too..
Extreemly fast, manuverable, good looking, deadly.

I would hardly call it outdated, as it can take on most fighters in the world and come out victorious.
why the heck didn't Grumman continue with the development of the F-14S???:sigh:
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: aldo_14 on March 24, 2005, 06:56:20 am: From what i understand, one of the main advantages of the F-14 (over the replacement superhornet) is long range; I guess with the advent of ever more powerful cruise / guided missiles launched from subs & destroyers, they don't feel they need the range.

F-14 was nice though; i remember making a Lego model of it when I was about 11, complete with neat working swing-wings.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Liberator on March 24, 2005, 07:42:01 am: Quote
Originally posted by Gank
And next to useless against anyone with any decent form of air defense, even the Iraqis managed to bring one down in the gulf war. part of the reason they're being retired iirc

Assume you're talking about the AC-130s?

They're withdrawal from service is news to me, last I heard they were slated to be fit with some kind of laser based weapon.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Clave on March 24, 2005, 08:28:01 am: I can't find any good-looking helicopters, so looked for fighters instead.

The Typhoon is pretty nice imho:

(http://www.airshows.org.uk/2003/airshows/riat/flyingdisplays/raf_typhoon_1.jpg)

But for old-school jet beauty, the Hunter kicks ass:

(http://www.militaryairshows.net/cosford2004/img_9616.jpg)

And for propellor power, I have to vote Spitfire 18:

(http://www.militaryairshows.net/spits/spitfire%20mk.xviii_tp280.jpg)
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Admiral Nelson on March 24, 2005, 08:29:26 am: No retirement for AC-130s -- most of the likely opposition America may face in the future in fact has little air defence capability. Thus the demise of the Comanche.

Thw F-14 is a maintainence hog. Those swing wings are cool, but costly to maintain. Additionally the aircraft was designed as a bomber interceptor. It is therefore a rather 'soft' aircraft considerably more vulnerable to damage than the F/A-18. These issues could have been fixed, given time and money, but the Navy preferred not to sink more money in an old platform. Finally, dithering around the procurement of new build F-14Ds meant that a substantial sum of money would have to be paid to restart assembly lines for many of the long lead items needed for the plane.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Sandwich on March 24, 2005, 08:47:48 am: Quote
Originally posted by Raa

Truly. Rereading it is paiful.

Feel The Paif!!! :p

My fav prop-job is the F4U Corsair:

(http://www.spitcrazy.com/corsair.jpg)

Fav modern jet is the YF-23 (darn that YF-22 for winning!):

(http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-23-EC94-42454-3.jpg)

And for the chopper dept., I'd have to give the nod to the Russian Hind, beast that it is:

(http://www.flygplan.info/images/Mi-24%20Hind.jpg)
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Col. Fishguts on March 24, 2005, 09:06:10 am: Quote
Originally posted by Clave
I can't find any good-looking helicopters, so looked for fighters instead.

Oh come on...

(http://www.milavia.net/downloads/wallpapers/mi-24_1_high.jpg)

EDIT: Sandwich beat me to it.

And just because a friend of mine is flying these things, the Cougar:

(http://www.airventure.de/airpower03/Super%20Puma_27.jpg)

Not an attack chopper, but cool nonetheless.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Corsair on March 24, 2005, 02:41:13 pm: Blech. I think jets are just so much prettier than helicopters and the F-22 takes the prize.

As for my favorite propeller plane, well... that's where I get my nick from.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: pyro-manic on March 24, 2005, 02:41:26 pm: I'm not a helicopter man myself, but the Merlin is quite pretty, as is the Gazelle. My favourite aircraft are as follows:

TSR.2 (British nuclear bomber, cancelled before it went into production. Revolutionary, gorgeous.)
(http://84.82.173.12/tsr-2-dirty.jpg)

The de Havilland Sea Vixen. The best-looking jet fighter ever, no contest. Shame about the Red Bull markings, but AFAIK this one is the only airworthy example left in the world. :(
(http://www.zap16.com/lelystad%202004/ley04%20De%20Havilland%20Sea%20Vixen%20G-CVIX.jpg)

Spitfire > everything else. Beauty incarnate. :nod:
(http://www.aoqz76.dsl.pipex.com/Web%20Page%20Components/Wallpaper/Planes/Twin%20Spitfire.jpg)

Most modern aircraft are pretty soul-less in my opinion, however there are a few beauties to be found:

The unique SR-71 Blackbird, one of the few American aircraft I like:
(http://www.aoqz76.dsl.pipex.com/Web%20Page%20Components/Wallpaper/Planes/SR71.jpg)

The YF-23. The other modern American aircraft I like. I wish they'd chosen this 'un instead of the fugly F22... :doubt:
(http://www.voodoo.cz/yf23/b/yf237.jpg)

There are a couple of gorgeous Soviet and British concept aircraft from the Cold War, but I can't find pictures of them (as I can't remember their names :doubt: ).
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Janos on March 24, 2005, 03:06:36 pm: I go for Hind as well. Soviet design pleases the eye.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Flipside on March 24, 2005, 03:15:10 pm: Quote
Originally posted by TrashMan

I'm an F-14 man too..
Extreemly fast, manuverable, good looking, deadly.

I would hardly call it outdated, as it can take on most fighters in the world and come out victorious.
why the heck didn't Grumman continue with the development of the F-14S???:sigh:

Well, the F14 really suffers from restrictive maintenance costs, a lot of them are getting mothballed. The Phoenix missile is an incredibly dangerous Anti-Bomber/Large Fighter missile, and with a range of 200km+ is still one of the longest ranged anti-vehicle weapons. However, they are very expensive to make. F14's also can be vulnerable to returned missile fire, and since the A6 Wild Weasel, their counterpart ECM plane, is starting to be mothballed as well, I guess it was inevitable :(
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: NGTM-1R on March 24, 2005, 03:49:38 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Flipside

and since the A6 Wild Weasel, their counterpart ECM plane, is starting to be mothballed as well, I guess it was inevitable :(

The Prowler? They're not mothballing the Prowler. The A-6E yes, but they can't afford to mothball the Prowler until the proposed Hornet variant replacement comes into service, since the Navy currently has the SEAD mission instead of the Air Force.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: aldo_14 on March 24, 2005, 03:51:33 pm: I personally prefer the Hurricane to the Spitfire, incidentally. Plane that won the BoB.....
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Getter Robo G on March 24, 2005, 04:08:34 pm: Ahem, sexiest attack helicopte goes to (cue fanfare)... AIRWOLF!

http://www.tvshowcentral.net/tvshows/airwolf/airwolf_show_4.jpg
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Clave on March 24, 2005, 04:16:02 pm: The Hurricane was a good workhorse, but not that good looking imo...

The Sea Vixen was a beauty, like a lot of De Havilland's stuff, I loved the Comet racer as well:

(http://www.stewart50.freeserve.co.uk/main/sc/dh88.jpg)

The Mosquito was also awesome:

(http://www.flygplan.info/images/mosie800.jpg)

Back to jets - this is the Avro Vulcan, once our main deterrent bomber:

(http://www.milairpix.com/smlwpics/wpsvulcan_2.jpg)
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Admiral Nelson on March 24, 2005, 04:21:25 pm: What, no one has mentioned the Blackburn Blackburn??

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/NelsonAndBronte/blackburn_blackburn.jpg)
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Clave on March 24, 2005, 04:23:33 pm: Oh, just by strange coincidence I have been collecting these type pics:

(http://www.raf.mod.uk/squadrons/h_images/31sqntorngr4.gif)

To put on disc for my dad (he is on dial-up) I have 595 RAF planes now (so many squadrons in WW2)

I like these style of illustrations a lot, so I could be looking to expand (USA, Japan, Germany etc.) If anyone has found any, I'd appreciate a link or two...:)

PS: Must be Gif or Jpg on white, no patterned backgrounds please!
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Flipside on March 24, 2005, 04:26:37 pm: They always remind me of the instructions to Airfix models for some reason ;)
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: aldo_14 on March 24, 2005, 05:06:18 pm: Damn, I miss airfix. I was ****e at it, of course (nice glue filled cockpits), but I'd be good now, I reckon. Something else to do other than sketch spaceships........
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Flipside on March 24, 2005, 05:11:20 pm: I keep meaning to try Airfix again, but then I keep meaning to try painting Warhammer models again etc etc etc... ;)
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: TrashMan on March 24, 2005, 06:26:07 pm: Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14
From what i understand, one of the main advantages of the F-14 (over the replacement superhornet) is long range; I guess with the advent of ever more powerful cruise / guided missiles launched from subs & destroyers, they don't feel they need the range.

F-14 was nice though; i remember making a Lego model of it when I was about 11, complete with neat working swing-wings.

Range, yes..and speed too...

Lego model? You too? LOL
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Sesquipedalian on March 25, 2005, 01:49:59 am: Fear the L-390!

(http://www.finkel.org/avi/lego/390.jpg)

Now, that's a sweet machine.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Rictor on March 25, 2005, 01:55:08 am: That's one sexy chopper right there.

As for the best looking, either the Hind or Tiger:

Eurocopter Tiger
(http://www.adf-serials.com/gallery/albums/Eurocopter-Tiger-A38-001/LA_3A38_001c.jpg)
(http://www.adf-serials.com/gallery/albums/Eurocopter-Tiger-A38-002/LA_3A38_001b.jpg)
(http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/tiger-uht.jpg)
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Deepblue on March 25, 2005, 02:01:35 am: Bow down before the might of the Apache.

(http://www.stunkworks.com/gallery/ah-64/ah-64_008.jpg)
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Clave on March 25, 2005, 02:05:32 am: Quote
Originally posted by Flipside
I keep meaning to try Airfix again, but then I keep meaning to try painting Warhammer models again etc etc etc... ;)

I threw out my last remaining kit the other day, it was over 10 years old :lol:
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Sesquipedalian on March 25, 2005, 03:27:46 am: [size=18]L-390: Better than your chopper.[/size]

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/scroll/misc/L390bombsU.jpg)

LVLSHOT tags removed - you don't need them when the image is only 640 pixel wide. :p // Sandwich
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Sandwich on March 25, 2005, 05:27:23 am: ROFLMAO!!!!!!! :wakka:
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Gloriano on March 25, 2005, 05:41:41 am: LOL!!
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Flipside on March 25, 2005, 07:40:02 am: Quote
Originally posted by Getter Robo G
Ahem, sexiest attack helicopte goes to (cue fanfare)... AIRWOLF!

http://www.tvshowcentral.net/tvshows/airwolf/airwolf_show_4.jpg

(http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/scene_4.jpg)

Blue Thunder pwns Joo ;)
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Liberator on March 25, 2005, 07:43:49 am: Quote
Originally posted by Flipside
I keep meaning to try Airfix again, but then I keep meaning to try painting Warhammer models again etc etc etc... ;)

Yeah, I looked into getting a 40k model or 2, but unless you play, you can't justify pay $45.00 for 6" model.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: aldo_14 on March 25, 2005, 07:49:46 am: Quote
Originally posted by Flipside

(http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/scene_4.jpg)

Blue Thunder pwns Joo ;)

Hm.... blue thunder - actually looked like an attack chopper (was a modified Gazelle)

Airwolf.... basically a corporate chopper in black (Bell 222). Which shot down stock footage of migs with looped footages of some indiscernable yellow blob.

On the other had.... Ernest Borgnine
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Nico on March 25, 2005, 07:57:52 am: The coolest? The Ka50, and then the Tigre, because of national pride. The Apache is an outdated relic that is usualy downed by the US army itself coz it's such an old piece of junk ^^
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: vyper on March 25, 2005, 08:01:45 am: Quote
Originally posted by Deepblue
Bow down before the might of the Apache.

(http://www.stunkworks.com/gallery/ah-64/ah-64_008.jpg)

Nice, but dated.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Unknown Target on March 25, 2005, 08:07:39 am: Fat, fast, and heavy:

(http://www.gustafsen.nu/billeder/p-47.gif)

A sea queen:

(http://nexus.polaris.net/services/image-archive/mech/F18.jpg)

And gimme another jet, cause this thing is awesome:

(http://ftp.k2.net/misc/pic/a-10.jpg)
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: vyper on March 25, 2005, 08:14:56 am: (http://www.raf.mod.uk/equipment/images/harrier.jpg) (http://www.raf.mod.uk/equipment/harrier.html)

(http://www.raf.mod.uk/equipment/images/tornadogr4.jpg) http://www.raf.mod.uk/equipment/tornado_at.html

Future: Not sure about the X35.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: TrashMan on March 25, 2005, 08:33:49 am: Oh yeah...The A-10 Thunderbolt II . It KICKS SOME SERIOUS ASS!
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Gank on March 25, 2005, 10:01:52 am: Quote
Originally posted by redmenace
it depends on the situation. if I were to use them in such cases of Somalia it would have made a difference. Basically, like many other specialized weapons, they have draw backs.

Eh, they were used in Somalia, one was lost there due to an ammo explosion or something.

Quote
Originally posted by Liberator

Assume you're talking about the AC-130s?

They're withdrawal from service is news to me, last I heard they were slated to be fit with some kind of laser based weapon.

You're right, my bad. Must have read something about the older A, E and H models being retired. And a laser weapon? What sort? Cos the only lasers that are available at the minute dont really fit in with the AC-130s purpose

And lol at the hornet, the only us plane to be shot down in air to air combat since vietnam
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Cyker on March 25, 2005, 10:11:36 am: Helicopter: Apache
Fiction Helicopter: Orca

Plane (War): F22 or F15; A-10 or B2; Hercules or Globemaster
Plane (Passenger): Concorde
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Odyssey on March 25, 2005, 02:11:13 pm: Referencing an earlier post, the Lynx managed to get its speed record by cheating a bit - they made lots of modifications such as venting the exhaust gases backwards instead of upwards, and cutting loads and loads of weight from the thing. Production Lynx's don't have these modifications, so don't get anything like the same speeds. Still fast though.

The Merlin has plenty of defences from anti-aircraft weaponry, namely chaff and flare dispensers and missile lock warning systems. And agreed, it's damned fast - it has three engines where really it only needs two as it can fly fine on two (on a long-distance flight they just shut down one engine to save fuel). So, when all three are working, it goes like the clappers.

It's amazing what doing work experience at Westland Helicopters can teach you ^_^ There were a few Apache Longbows on the assembly line too, that they're making on contract for the British Army. Fugly beasts, but strangely appealing for their practicality.

I think my vote for most beautiful attack helicopter would probably go to the Ka-50 Hokum, it just looks good with its coaxial rotors.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Gank on March 25, 2005, 05:31:27 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Clave
I like these style of illustrations a lot, so I could be looking to expand (USA, Japan, Germany etc.) If anyone has found any, I'd appreciate a link or two...:)

www.acic.org ****loads of stuff from different airforces on there, though by your stated countrys it might be too modern for ya.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Clave on March 25, 2005, 05:39:58 pm: Arkansas Crime Information Centre? :wtf:
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Rictor on March 25, 2005, 06:03:35 pm: Hmm, Clinton's not on the Sex Offenders list. How odd.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Clave on March 25, 2005, 06:20:22 pm: :lol:

But.. oh...

Nevermind... where's the real link?!! :confused:
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Gank on March 26, 2005, 12:45:12 pm: umm www.acig.org
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Clave on March 27, 2005, 03:01:28 am: Thanks! :yes:

There's masses of stuff there, I'm still thinking about what to do...
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: TrashMan on March 27, 2005, 01:59:39 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Flipside

(http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/scene_4.jpg)

Blue Thunder pwns Joo ;)

the Blue thunder has one SERIOUS weakness...talk about cockpit size. The front is allmost completely made out of glass! Can't be good for structural integrity.
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: Flipside on March 27, 2005, 02:10:11 pm: It was designed really to be a police helicopter, not an army one, so I suspect armour was traded for visibliity.

Airwolfs ability to carry 16 internally mounted Hellfires was always impressive, specially since they are Anti-Tank missiles, and yet always used to get used on Migs ;) Admittedly, the AGM 114 is smaller than some cannon rounds, but still, where exactly did Stringfellow Hawk buy this stuff?
Title: The most beautiful attack helicopter in the world?
Post by: pyro-manic on March 27, 2005, 03:37:01 pm: He's probably a member of the NRA.... ;)