Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 23, 2005, 09:23:54 pm
FCO is handled similarly to games like Warhammer, or my favorite, A Call to Arms (http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/rpg/detail.php?qsID=510&qsSeries=11). Select your units, place them, move them, then attack with them.
PS. Even though I can really shorten the amount of weapons listed for each ship while still maintaining maximum efficiency and balance, the Colossus still takes a whole page just for all the weapons listed, as opposed to the rest of the ships, taking a page for everything, not just the weapons.
Chart:
-Terran Data Charts [DONE]
-Vasuan Data Charts [DONE]
-Shivan Data Charts [DONE]
*Terran Counters [85%]
*Vasudan Counters [10%]
*Shivan Counters [15%]
*Rules [5%]
•Playtesting/Hosting
Total :}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{ 60%
Teaser Shots:
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Post by: Cobra on March 23, 2005, 09:31:53 pm
Post by: Ferret on March 23, 2005, 09:40:32 pm
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Originally posted by Dark RevenantX
There are some setbacks such as the lack of pictures for the ship pieces. If someone can be nice enough to provide me with top-down screenshots of all the ships in the game, I will be forever grateful.
Contact me I'm sure I could work something out, I'm pretty sure that Modelview screenshots would be more than succifient.
Infact contact me anyway because, like I said, I'm very interested.
Post by: Cobra on March 23, 2005, 09:52:07 pm
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 23, 2005, 10:04:58 pm
And for some reason, after saving the root.vp with an accidental "v" in the middle, I can't run freespace 2 OSX Port.
After seeing the badly drawn A Call to Arms tokens, I decided I would use in-game models instead of 2d drawings.
And, thanks for the support, guys!:nod:
Post by: Cobra on March 23, 2005, 10:22:53 pm
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 23, 2005, 10:50:07 pm
Post by: Cobra on March 23, 2005, 11:04:52 pm
and i'll need you email address. :)
Post by: Ferret on March 23, 2005, 11:50:20 pm
I'll help in whatever way. :D
My e-mail address is [email protected] if you want the help. :P
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 24, 2005, 09:29:01 am
Exclude cargo boxes, and make the Ganeymede shot at an almost top-down view, so you can actually see what it looks like.
Im relieved that people are actually excited about this, as I didn't want to do all I had already done for nothing.
Post by: Star-Epock on March 24, 2005, 09:44:11 am
You can then lump turrets into batteries which makes things easyer.
Great Idea non the less!
Post by: Ferret on March 24, 2005, 09:58:08 am
I hope it's how you want it. (Png so there is no image quality loss)
http://www.ferretgames.com/imageupload/images/fenris14242e1e0c8221.png
http://www.ferretgames.com/imageupload/images/fenris24242e22289bec.png
If it's fine I'll do more, how about I'll do all of the Terran cruisers and corvette?
Post by: Cobra on March 24, 2005, 11:28:48 am
Post by: StratComm on March 24, 2005, 01:54:16 pm
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Originally posted by Ferret
http://www.ferretgames.com/imageupload/images/fenris14242e1e0c8221.png
http://www.ferretgames.com/imageupload/images/fenris24242e22289bec.png
Don't get me wrong, I love the Fenris as much as the next guy, but good god that's an ugly angle. And don't use modelview for the screenshots if you can help it; a proper render would be infinitely better.
Post by: Ferret on March 24, 2005, 02:37:01 pm
They're in this rar:
http://www.ferretgames.com/FCO-ships1.rar
Ships in it have both black and magic magenta flavoured backgrounds.
I did:
Aoleus Cruiser
Alastor Gun Platform
Amazon Drone
Amazon Advanced Drone
Arcadia Installtion
Argo Transport
Boadicea Base
Charybdis AWACS
Deimos Corvette
Elysium Transport
Faustus Science Vessel
Ganymede Drydock
Hermes Pod
Hippocrate Medical Vessel
Hygeia Support Ship
Iceni
Knossos Portal (!)
Meson Bomb
Mjolnir Cannon
Pharos Bouy
Poseidon Freighter
Triton Freighter
Watchdog + Cerberus Gun Platform (Use the same model)
Zephyrus Gas Miner
And I thought it would bge a good idea to to the Subspace Node marker too.
And now I REALLY hope they're okay.
[edit]
Whoops did them before I saw Stratcomms post... *Shrugs*
Getting them from a useable angle in-game would be a nightmare.
Post by: Cobra on March 24, 2005, 02:44:22 pm
drx: do you want fighters?
Post by: Cobra on March 24, 2005, 03:21:45 pm
Post by: karajorma on March 24, 2005, 03:55:17 pm
*bets someone stickies the thread just to annoy me now* :D
Post by: Charismatic on March 24, 2005, 06:08:23 pm
Anyways, this is a good idea. Im doing to download modelview tonight..
So, Dark, is this like a C&C game? (Command & Conquer)
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 24, 2005, 06:15:06 pm
For a status update, I am nearing completion of the Vasudans, which happens to be the smallest ship section.
Should I scale the large ships down to a 3x4" Sathanas so you dont have a huge ship next to a tiny wing of fighters, or should I keep it more realalistic? Also, batteries won't work. Do Freespace 2 ships have laser batteries? There is a good reason why the turrets are spread out.
I am using unusual firing arcs to simulate blind spots to an otherwise 360º angle, such as F 270º, rather than having three identical guns that are F 90º, P 90º, and S 90º. Is that ok?
Sadly, you will have to cut out all the ship tokens. I do not wish to deal with Volition and Interplay for the rights to use it in a marketing act.
If you guys are patient, I will let you in on a shocking secret.;)
Post by: Cobra on March 24, 2005, 06:48:03 pm
anyway, i've finished all destroyers and jugs. working on shivan ships right now.
Post by: Ferret on March 24, 2005, 06:47:41 pm
I mean, it's your game, who knows better than you?
Yes that's the reason I took most fo them from top down, because of angles. A couple of them, like Ganymede and Knossos I didn't because it's better from a slight angle.
Anyway you didn't say if mine were good or not. If you don't like then I wont do anymore.
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 24, 2005, 07:12:30 pm
I didn't mean any offense, they are good for what I need.
I said to slightly downscale the smaller ships because it is not the best thing to waste hosting space with unnessicary sizing.
You do not need to resize them yourself, I am happy with what I have now.
Im suprised this is more popular than freespacer!
Post by: Ferret on March 24, 2005, 10:33:10 pm
And don't worry about the hosting space, I have it coming out of my ears, I have a little image upload script (which I used for the Fenris pics) which at this mo has about 2.5k pictures in total uploaded. It hasn't made much of a dent in my hosting. :D
I thought it best to do them all the same relative size since I didn't know what you want. Nyah?
How else could I have possibly done it with such vague instructions? ^_^
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 24, 2005, 11:48:44 pm
I need a good hosting space for the .pdf downloads, and I am very short on cash, so a free site would do nicely. The Mjolnir looks great with those glowmaps! Il post some pics soon.
Don't mind the black background, for some reason Graphic Converter does weird things to clipboard pastes.
The white crosses are dividers for firing arcs.
-IMAGE REMOVED OUT OF DATE COUNTERS-
THIS IS ACTUAL SIZE
Post by: Ferret on March 25, 2005, 12:10:03 am
Or if you are familiar with FTP I can set up an FTP account on my server for you, you'll be centralised to a single sub-folder which means you could even build a little website there if you wanted. (Would probably be www.ferretgames.com/fco or something)
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 25, 2005, 08:50:01 pm
There were some setbacks to my work, but those are eliminated.
Post by: Luigi30 on March 25, 2005, 09:52:50 pm
Post by: Blitzerland on March 25, 2005, 09:56:00 pm
Post by: Luigi30 on March 25, 2005, 09:58:45 pm
Speaking of which, anyone know a site that has help for using FRED?
Post by: karajorma on March 26, 2005, 03:21:08 am
Post by: Luigi30 on March 26, 2005, 07:52:04 am
Post by: karajorma on March 26, 2005, 10:55:06 am
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 26, 2005, 11:02:02 am
Post by: Ferret on March 26, 2005, 11:12:48 am
.... That's a good idea!
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 26, 2005, 11:46:15 am
Also, It has been a while since you have done those pictures. Any chance of the destroyers and whatnot?
Post by: Ferret on March 26, 2005, 12:20:35 pm
What about fighters and bombers? Do you want those too? I can do them tonight.
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 26, 2005, 01:56:36 pm
Also, do them in magenta, I figured out how to make transparencies! Since many ships have black crap all over them, the black will be transparent unless the picture is in a stand-out background.
Thanks for what you have done so far!
Post by: Ferret on March 26, 2005, 01:57:27 pm
So again, fighters and bombers?
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 26, 2005, 02:42:09 pm
If you have time, the ships for the Vasudans
Post by: Jal-18 on March 26, 2005, 03:04:03 pm
Post by: StratComm on March 26, 2005, 03:07:56 pm
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 26, 2005, 03:31:57 pm
-image removed look down-
Post by: StratComm on March 26, 2005, 04:29:15 pm
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 26, 2005, 06:34:23 pm
I need a big one for the big ships and crap.
Post by: Blitzerland on March 26, 2005, 07:00:06 pm
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 27, 2005, 12:15:05 am
Post by: Cobra on March 27, 2005, 12:21:58 am
Post by: Annorax on March 27, 2005, 12:26:32 am
At the time of FS2, there was only one Iceni-class ship... Bosch's flagship. You might want to change its designation.
Post by: Cobra on March 27, 2005, 12:38:29 am
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 27, 2005, 12:40:17 am
Bigger starfield. I have a starfield for each race, plus one for neutral objects:
CLICK ME TO SEE (http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?folder_id=1272428)
Also, Ferret, when you get to the Shivans, include the Lucifer.
Post by: deep_eyes on March 27, 2005, 08:45:17 am
Post by: Ferret on March 27, 2005, 08:59:44 am
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 27, 2005, 11:14:49 am
The Colossus, however, is an only ship. So if the NTF took it, they would call it the NTF Colossus because it is theirs, and nobody will mistake it for a "new variant of the Colossus", because there is only one.
This rule applies to the Iceni. Before called GTFr Iceni, now called NTF Iceni.
I made it GTCV Iceni because of:
1. It is for game reasons. You sometimes are not playing as NTF and want to use an Iceni. With my above arguement, you can just fly multiple Icenis as you can with multiple Colossus vessels. It is like Fredding, there is no hardcoded line saying that you can not have more than one Colossus or Iceni.
2. It looks like a Corvette, and is the size of a Corvette.
3. It has the stats of a powerful Corvette, but not of a weak destroyer.
4. This is a friggin game! Little does it actually apply to the storyline in FS2, as to create non-volition battles. However, you can easily make any battle you choose to.
5. Like the Mjolnir MkII (Home Mjolnir with MjolnirBeam#Home), which is seen in one mission, and most of the time is unrecognizeable to the other Mjolnirs, I just try to add all the content of base FS2, plus new and different stuff.
I still havent made any fighter data charts, mainly because their data chart setup is different than the non-fighter data chart.
Ferret, I am going to need those pictures soon as my game nears completion.
Post by: Cobra on March 27, 2005, 02:28:38 pm
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Originally posted by Dark RevenantX
Also, Ferret, when you get to the Shivans, include the Lucifer.
i already did the lucifer and all other destroyers and juggernauts. :p
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 27, 2005, 04:32:39 pm
-Terran Data Charts [DONE]
-Vasuan Data Charts [DONE]
-Shivan Data Charts [DONE]
*Terran Counters [65%]
•Vasudan Counters
•Shivan Counters
*Rules [5%]
•Playtesting/Hosting
Total :}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{ 55%
Post by: Ferret on March 27, 2005, 04:42:41 pm
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 27, 2005, 07:34:23 pm
I am doing a lot more work than you are.
If you were talking about the chart, I apologise.
Post by: Cobra on March 27, 2005, 07:38:31 pm
sorry about the pics, haven't gotten to 'em yet, i will give 'em to you... now. :D
Post by: Luigi30 on March 27, 2005, 07:41:29 pm
Post by: Ferret on March 27, 2005, 08:00:03 pm
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Originally posted by Dark RevenantXI really don't think you have a right to say something of this nature as if it was a demand.
I am doing a lot more work than you are.
I'm doing them as a favour to you, and I don't even know you.
It's not as if we gave some agreement or there are any deadlines. Do not act so aggressivly when people are being kind, or they will not do anything for you at all.
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 27, 2005, 08:09:41 pm
Lugi, I weigh the more time consuming things higher than less time consuming things.
Cobra, thank you for the ships, they do a great lot of help.
Post by: Cobra on March 27, 2005, 08:13:42 pm
[EDIT] crap, DRX posted before i did.
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on March 27, 2005, 09:09:27 pm
http://knossos.firenebula.com/ (http://knossos.firenebula.com/)
Though it's a touch more complicated than A Call to Arms.
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 27, 2005, 10:21:32 pm
I still lack weapon names for the Terran Turret, Terran Huge Turret, Beams, Shivan Turret, and some other thing I forget the name of.
My version has more detail than A Call to Arms, but not by much.
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on March 28, 2005, 02:06:36 am
Post by: Luigi30 on March 28, 2005, 09:31:40 am
Post by: StratComm on March 28, 2005, 10:56:39 am
Post by: Cobra on March 28, 2005, 01:52:35 pm
Post by: Luigi30 on March 28, 2005, 03:14:43 pm
Terran primary beam cannon, class AA, power rating 1000!
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 28, 2005, 06:19:05 pm
Thanks for all the support!
Post by: Cobra on March 28, 2005, 06:21:02 pm
[EDIT] Er, what's your email?
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 28, 2005, 06:38:06 pm
whoops, the email address exploded! Owhell...
Post by: Cobra on March 28, 2005, 06:39:03 pm
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 28, 2005, 07:24:37 pm
Post by: Cobra on March 28, 2005, 07:30:32 pm
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 28, 2005, 08:59:58 pm
Post by: Cobra on March 28, 2005, 09:01:43 pm
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 29, 2005, 09:48:50 pm
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on March 29, 2005, 10:07:43 pm
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Originally posted by Cobra
i'm thinking i should make a white background for the sath, it's really hard to see...
Just increase the brightness/gamma control before you slap it on the background.
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 30, 2005, 09:40:30 am
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on March 30, 2005, 12:05:00 pm
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 30, 2005, 06:43:26 pm
Post by: Cobra on April 05, 2005, 05:23:01 pm
Post by: Dark RevenantX on April 13, 2005, 08:20:44 pm
I desperately need the remaining ships. If anyone can provide them for me I would be eternally grateful. To appease you guys, I have teaser shots of a small portion of the ship data charts. These snapshots are of reduced quality, and are NOT in final form. Don't even attempt to print them.
Cobra and Ferret, you guys are great!
Post by: Cobra on April 14, 2005, 12:13:10 am
Post by: Dark RevenantX on April 14, 2005, 09:56:16 am
Vasudan non-destroyers
Shivan non-destroyers
NO KNOSSOS NO ARCADIA NO JUMP NODE NO COMM NODE
That's all! I know it's a lot, but A Call to Arms has 200 pieces with twice as many ship classes.