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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: aldo_14 on March 24, 2005, 10:32:30 am
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4379441.stm
[q]The opposition in Kyrgyzstan says it has taken control of the capital, Bishkek, after overrunning the president's palace.
Protesters confronted supporters of President Askar Akayev before flooding into government offices.
A prominent Kyrgyz opposition leader, Felix Kulov, made a televised appeal for calm after being freed from jail.
Demonstrations were stepped up after recent parliamentary elections, which the opposition said were rigged. [/q]
Toppling like dominos, these governments. Who's your bet for being the next?
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Elbonia!!!
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There goes the cheap mud then.
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Togo if that Gnassingbe guy is "elected" back into office. Maybe Tonga, but I don't think things have come to a head over there quite yet. Serbia and Montenegro could very well spilt up soon, that might be a violent, government toppling sort of event, or it might be a more peaceful sort of process - The Zimbabwean elections have a slight chance to destabilize Mugabe, but with the state of the opposition over there, I doubt they'd bve able to rally the kind of support they'd need to orchestrate something like this... overall, tis hard to say.
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I was thinking Uzbekistan, myself, because it's in that same former-USSR type area.
Although there might be a problem for getting 'external' support (as it was suggested there was in the Ukraine and Georgian 'revolutions'), as the US (main spreader of democracy, apparently) is in good terms with the current Uzbek government (they regularly send prisoners over there to be "interrogated").
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Zimbabwe - UK should go in there under a UN banner and get things sorted out. We've got British subjects in there getting turfed out their own homes, and destroying the infrastructure of the country in the process.
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We narrowly avoided a humanitarian distaster here. Do you know what the potential of choking to death on your own tongue is when 10,000 people are chanting 'Free Kyrgyzstan!'?
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Who's to say that these 'revolutions' won't just bring anoether dictator to power?
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You mean that revolutions are intended to put in representative style governments? You be teh funnies... :lol:
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I don't much care what happens in countries whos names i cannot pronounce.
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If only our president had that philosophy.
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wouldn't make any difference.
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Well, we probably wouldn't have had the war in Eye-rack.
EDIT: Curse you, timewarp.
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Originally posted by Ace
You mean that revolutions are intended to put in representative style governments? You be teh funnies... :lol:
Oh yes, stupid me. What was I thinking? :dizzy:
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It would certainly change the world if you couldn't use weapons you couldn't pronounce ;)
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"Colonel! Deploy the krtyogf....kytpp....kopy.... thingymabob!"
"This thingymabob?"
"No, the thingmabobmajob!"
and soforth
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Another one of these. What is that like 5 or 6 now? And more in the works.
Though the 2 places in the region that really deserve to get a can of "regime change" opened up on them, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan, don't look too hopeful.
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Originally posted by Black Wolf
Togo if that Gnassingbe guy is "elected" back into office. Maybe Tonga, but I don't think things have come to a head over there quite yet. Serbia and Montenegro could very well spilt up soon, that might be a violent, government toppling sort of event, or it might be a more peaceful sort of process - The Zimbabwean elections have a slight chance to destabilize Mugabe, but with the state of the opposition over there, I doubt they'd bve able to rally the kind of support they'd need to orchestrate something like this... overall, tis hard to say.
I don't think there's going to be a civil war or anything, a few fists flying here and there maybe, but nothing too serious. My take on it is that if they want to go, let them ****ing go cause then at least there's nothing left to loose (well, not really, but anyway). Jesus, I think Serbia is a serious contender for steadiest loss of territory in this century, excluding the Empires. First, 4 provinces break off, then Kosovo, then Montenegro, and the North is getting really pissy all of a sudden.
/sorrowful rant
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edit: blah, nevermind
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Instability and war are bad for business, unless you are selling arms I suppose, but it's a limited market unlike DVDs, trainers, McDonalds and the other trappings of Western civilisation which are the real money-makers.
If you have fanatics in charge - like Zimbabwe (and Iraq) then it's almost impossible to have any dialogue, and basically nothing gets done. The UN needs to put it's house in order and become what it is supposed to be - a global moderator/policeman - then the US can stop doing that job, and just supply troops etc along with everyone else...
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I agree with you there Clave, but, as I said in another thread, theres a reason the character of Justice is blindfolded and carries a pair of scales. I'm not saying the world doesn't need one single organisation to Police it in it's current state, but, I don't think that organisation should be a country, that is probably the single most obvious path to a War that exists, We could have invaded Iraq wearing Bobby outfits and the tit-shaped helmets, and we still would have been invading, not policing.
I think the power of Veto should be removed from the UN for matters of security. Too many countries, both Eastern and Western are self-involved to have a world-level responsibility, to care about another country not because they have the same type of government, not because they have the same type of God, but because they are people.
I suppose that's my problem with the whole 'Police the World; thing at the moment, somewhere along the line, rather than trying to find the 'nobleness' in humanity, our belief in ourelves and humanity in general seems to be waning, and our behaviour, througout the world, seems to be echoing this :(
Edit : I wonder if this drop of faith in the physical side of human nature led to the rise in faith in less 'tangible' aspects of human nature, such as religion?
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Originally posted by Flipside
I think the power of Veto should be removed from the UN for matters of security.
Aren't they planning to do that, along with increasing the number of permanent members of the Security Council (Germany, Japan, Brazil, India and some African country)?