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Title: The Colossus has been reborn
Post by: Kosh on March 26, 2005, 05:39:53 am
(http://web.engr.oregonstate.edu/~plankerj/colossus%20reborn.JPG)


As a support ship. :D
Title: The Colossus has been reborn
Post by: Primus on March 26, 2005, 05:47:55 am
What game?
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Post by: Grug on March 26, 2005, 05:48:05 am
:wtf:
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Post by: Fury on March 26, 2005, 05:57:04 am
Nexus - The Jupiter Incident.
Great game.
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Post by: TopAce on March 26, 2005, 06:51:04 am
How could a Support ship be called Colossus? Is that the biggest ship in the game? :wtf:
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Post by: Turnsky on March 26, 2005, 06:55:42 am
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Originally posted by TopAce
How could a Support ship be called Colossus? Is that the biggest ship in the game? :wtf:


actually, yes, it is


it's basically a giagantic shield generator (fortress sheild)
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Post by: Flipside on March 26, 2005, 07:25:04 am
Well, considering Colossus was a Giant who held up the Sky, that's actually a far more appropriate name. And strictly speaking, Colossus wasn't a Giant, he was a Titan, who chose to hold up the sky for eternity rather than get sent to Tantarus.

The Giants were actually the Earths revenge on Zeus for ousting his Father, Chronos, and could be defeated only with the help of Herakles.
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Post by: Axem on March 26, 2005, 09:54:02 am
Argh, I hate that Colossus even more than the FS2 one. Takes them some stupid amount of time to bring up their fortress shield, and then they say "Oh by the way, they have a long range fortress shield peircing seige laser." And they're 30km away and the Colossus is down to a third hull...

From this, I conclude that anything named the Colossus isn't worth it.
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 26, 2005, 09:53:46 am
Am I the only one who finds it appropriate the the Colossus also shares its name with the Colossus of Rhodes, a gigantic statue which was also destroyed?
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Post by: TopAce on March 26, 2005, 10:55:47 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Am I the only one who finds it appropriate the the Colossus also shares its name with the Colossus of Rhodes, a gigantic statue which was also destroyed?


Coincidence
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 26, 2005, 11:11:59 am
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Originally posted by TopAce


Coincidence


why?  It's even introduced as the '8th wonder' (and the Rhodes one was, of course, one of the original wonders of the ancient world).

Seems eminently plausible to me.
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Post by: Freyr on March 26, 2005, 11:44:33 am
It could be named after the HMS Colossus, which survived several battles before sinking in a gale?
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Post by: Kie99 on March 26, 2005, 11:49:11 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14


why?  It's even introduced as the '8th wonder' (and the Rhodes one was, of course, one of the original wonders of the ancient world).

Seems eminently plausible to me.


Wasn't the mission called the 6th wonder?
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 26, 2005, 11:55:52 am
Don't think so.  6th wonder would be a strange name, wouldn't it?
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Post by: karajorma on March 26, 2005, 12:03:32 pm
Mission SM1-08.fs2 was indeed called The Sixth Wonder.

I'm pretty certain the Colossus was named after the Colossus of Rhodes. The name of the mission shows that [V] were definately aware of the 7 wonders. (Although by the name of the mission they appear to have believed that there were five of them :D )
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Post by: Nuclear1 on March 26, 2005, 12:04:27 pm
It was... I remember it being titled "The Sixth Wonder."

Oh well, it doesn't matter. It was crap anyway :doubt:
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 26, 2005, 12:35:34 pm
Hmm... furry muff :)

Still find it an odd name, though - were the Ancient Wonders numbered?
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Post by: Gank on March 26, 2005, 12:47:04 pm
Colossos is usually listed as the sixth, bit obvious that one really.
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Post by: TrashMan on March 26, 2005, 01:26:25 pm
the Nexus Colossus was a extreemly usefull and durable ship. one the Fortress shield got up, only a siege laser could pierce it.
It can allso carry more AA guns than any other ship and can be equipped with some heavy weapon.

Falls short of a battleship in firepower, but with 4 anihhhilatoir missile launchers....oh boy! Loved those blinding blasts!
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Post by: Grimloq on March 26, 2005, 02:13:47 pm
Wasn't... I thought there were 7 'Wonders', and 5 'Wonders of the World'... Hmm... Shows how much I know.
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Post by: StratComm on March 26, 2005, 02:59:22 pm
It was "Seven wonders of the ancient world" and "Five wonders of the world".  Several ancient wonders no longer stood by the Victorian area, when the "Wonders" were re-discovered, and so things like the Great Wall of China got included where only mediterranian structures were in the "ancient world".  Off the top of my head I can think of the Lighthouse at Alexandria, the Colossus of Rhodes, I think the temple to Athena at Delphi, the great pyramids, and the Parthenon of Athens.  Though I'm sure they were re-ordered countless times throughout history.
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Post by: Ghostavo on March 26, 2005, 03:03:25 pm
Seven wonders of the ancient world:
- Colossus of Rhodes
- Hanging Gardens of Babylon
- Mausoleum of Halicarnassus
- Pharos of Alexandria
- Pyramids of Giza
- Statue of Zeus
- Temple of Artemis
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 26, 2005, 04:27:00 pm
Another stupid coincdence; the Colossus of Rhodes was a statue of Helios, the sun god (IIRC).  

It was destroyed by earthquake after only 30-odd years, and was also built to commemorate the survival of a siege; IIRc Rhodes was allied with Ptolemy, later ruler of Egypt, in a battle to control the remnants of Alexander the Greats empire.

 After it was destroyed, Ptolemy offered to help rebuild it - it was lying on the ground, i.e. could be put up again - but the Rhodians refused (I think they believed the statue had been destroyed by an offended Helios).
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Post by: karajorma on March 26, 2005, 05:51:06 pm
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Originally posted by Ghostavo
Hanging Gardens of Nineveh
 


Corrected it for you.

When they find evidence that there were ANY kind of gardens in Babylon I'll give them their props. Till then I think its a pretty big coincidence that there is concrete proof that Sennacherib built a magnificent set of gardens 60 miles down the road.

Okay it's possible that he was mearly copying more impressive gardens in Babylon but they've still found very little proof that Nebuchadnezzar built anything of the sort.

Sennacherib on the other hand gives a detailed account of how he built them and also explains how he watered them using  Archimedes' screws (several hundred years before  Archimedes himself was actually born incidentally)

anyway rant over. :) It just bugs me that Babylon seems to be getting the credit for someone elses work. :)
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Post by: Dranon on March 26, 2005, 09:09:02 pm
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Originally posted by Axem
Argh, I hate that Colossus even more than the FS2 one. Takes them some stupid amount of time to bring up their fortress shield, and then they say "Oh by the way, they have a long range fortress shield peircing seige laser." And they're 30km away and the Colossus is down to a third hull...

From this, I conclude that anything named the Colossus isn't worth it.


I agree...
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Post by: Corhellion on March 26, 2005, 10:00:20 pm
Nexus rules!

Awesome RTS game!
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Post by: Carl on March 26, 2005, 10:17:40 pm
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Originally posted by Axem
Argh, I hate that Colossus even more than the FS2 one. Takes them some stupid amount of time to bring up their fortress shield, and then they say "Oh by the way, they have a long range fortress shield peircing seige laser." And they're 30km away and the Colossus is down to a third hull...

From this, I conclude that anything named the Colossus isn't worth it.


Naming something "Collosus" is almost as bad as naming something "Titanic"
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Post by: Dranon on March 26, 2005, 10:42:52 pm
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Originally posted by Carl


Naming something "Collosus" is almost as bad as naming something "Titanic"


You know, i thought the same thing myself when i first saw the Collossus in Nexus...
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 27, 2005, 10:50:26 am
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Originally posted by karajorma


Corrected it for you.

When they find evidence that there were ANY kind of gardens in Babylon I'll give them their props. Till then I think its a pretty big coincidence that there is concrete proof that Sennacherib built a magnificent set of gardens 60 miles down the road.

Okay it's possible that he was mearly copying more impressive gardens in Babylon but they've still found very little proof that Nebuchadnezzar built anything of the sort.

Sennacherib on the other hand gives a detailed account of how he built them and also explains how he watered them using  Archimedes' screws (several hundred years before  Archimedes himself was actually born incidentally)

anyway rant over. :) It just bugs me that Babylon seems to be getting the credit for someone elses work. :)


The list for the 7 wonders is effectively taken off Plinys' (?) own list though, isn't it?  So even if they didn't exist, it's still the Gardens of Babylon on said list.
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Post by: karajorma on March 27, 2005, 12:07:14 pm
Antipater of Sidon was the source of the list and he lived after the time of Alexander the Great (who AFAIK never once mentioned the gardens even after taking Babylon from the Persians).

If you're taking the 7 wonders as being a work of fiction then yes fair enough the list must remain what Antipater wrote but if you're taking it as a list of real wonders that actually existed at one time then you must transpose the gardens to their real location in Nineveh or just boot them out completely.
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Post by: Kosh on March 28, 2005, 12:33:46 am
I'm on the second to the last mission of Nexus. I thought this game was, overall, fairly difficult. There were a couple of missions I seriously had to try 5 or 6 times before I got it.



And I seriously wonder how Norbank got to that position in the first place, considering that I had to save his ass 3 times.


I also think that this was a great game. One thing I like about it is that it is "alt-tab compatible". You can pause it, alt tab, and then go back to it and it works without a problem.
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Post by: Dranon on March 28, 2005, 06:50:08 pm
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Originally posted by Kosh

And I seriously wonder how Norbank got to that position in the first place, considering that I had to save his ass 3 times.
 


I disliked that guy as soon as i first ran across him in the game...
If not for some graphical glitches i had i would of finished it by now, but i got stuck playing CnC Generals and have yet to get back to Nexus.