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Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: vyper on March 31, 2005, 05:21:43 pm: https://freeinternetpress.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3267

[q]Pope John Paul II was given the last rites of the Roman Catholic Church late Thursday night as his health deteriorated, a Vatican source has told CNN.

The sacrament does not necessarily mean that the pope is dying. Last rites -- also known as the sacrament of the sick or extreme unction -- are commonly given to people who are seriously ill as well.[/q]
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: MatthewPapa on March 31, 2005, 05:47:34 pm: So he seems to be going downhill very rapidly at this point.
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: Ford Prefect on March 31, 2005, 07:53:34 pm: If the Vatican wants to keep up with the latest fashions, they'll pull his feeding tube.
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: delta_7890 on March 31, 2005, 08:06:13 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Ford Prefect
If the Vatican wants to keep up with the latest fashions, they'll pull his feeding tube.

That's kinda harsh..
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: StratComm on March 31, 2005, 08:12:04 pm: Not to mention in very poor taste :doubt:
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: Solatar on March 31, 2005, 08:26:22 pm: Clever isn't always funny...

Too bad for the pope though. I happen to attend a 3 year old school that bears his name so we'll definantly hear about this when we go back.
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: Grey Wolf on March 31, 2005, 08:31:15 pm: I tried seeking some confirmation for this story, and as of right now, it seems that the Vatican is refusing to say anything. Despite that, I'd say odds are the College of Cardinals will be forced to convene at the Vatican soon.
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: Liberator on March 31, 2005, 09:24:15 pm: All that, and yet, for some unfathomable reason, he won't step aside and let a new pope be named.
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: Taristin on March 31, 2005, 09:30:07 pm: Stubborn?
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: Black Wolf on March 31, 2005, 10:07:52 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Raa
Stubborn?

Against the rules of the Catholic church actually.
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: Taristin on March 31, 2005, 10:09:45 pm: w00t! Fight the power!
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: Liberator on March 31, 2005, 10:15:16 pm: You mean he has to stay Pope until he dies, even if he can't do his job. Does that strike anyone else as slightly caca?
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: Solatar on March 31, 2005, 10:22:33 pm: He can't be forced to resign by people threatening him, etc.
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: Corsair on March 31, 2005, 10:49:44 pm: And anyway, he can barely speak.
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: Night Hammer on March 31, 2005, 11:02:48 pm: so how long do you think he drags his life out?
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: Taristin on March 31, 2005, 11:07:44 pm: What, you wanna start placing bets on when the old geezer kicks off?
Shame on you :p
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: Liberator on March 31, 2005, 11:15:10 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Solatar
He can't be forced to resign by people threatening him, etc.

Who's threatening him? Being Pope is likely a high stress positon. Such a position would be taxing in the best of circumstances. He's trying to recouperate from a major illness. Logic suggests, for the good of the flock, that he step down, allow a new Pope to be named and heal.
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: Solatar on March 31, 2005, 11:17:16 pm: Nobody's threatening him...was just a reason that the people who thought of all this might have made sure he couldn't resign. Also, you're supposed to be completely dedicated, until your last breath. If he had been living the time of the original writers of the "rules" (Vatican Law I think..) he would have been dead long ago and everything would have been fine and dandy.
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: Liberator on March 31, 2005, 11:22:17 pm: Doesn't Vatican run by "Vatican 2" that was written in the '60s though?
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: Solatar on March 31, 2005, 11:37:28 pm: Yeah, but I don't think they changed stuff like that.

If they did, then it's still probably symbolic that the Pope is the Father until he dies. There is no "stepping down" after you've had enough, 'cause you're in it for the long run. The unfortunate side affect of this I think, is that you are screwed in a situation like this.

I hate to say it, but I don't think he's going to recover anytime soon. Meanwhile, it's not killing the Church to leave him in office for a bit.
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: Night Hammer on March 31, 2005, 11:43:04 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Raa
What, you wanna start placing bets on when the old geezer kicks off?
Shame on you :p

its always fun to have a pool or somthin of that nature;7
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: Knight Templar on April 01, 2005, 12:19:14 am: Viva la resitance!
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: aldo_14 on April 01, 2005, 03:23:09 am: I've read the Pope wrote a letter which stated he would resign when he was judged (due to the Parkinsons') to be no longer mentally competent; problem is, which cardinal would be willing to claim that?

The other thing is, he is totally dedicated to being Pope; it's his life. I doubt he'd resign voluntarily, even if his health is collapsing.
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: vyper on April 01, 2005, 04:47:07 am: He's had a heart attack now anyway, just be patient.
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: JR2000Z on April 01, 2005, 05:58:23 am: Quote
Originally posted by vyper
He's had a heart attack now anyway, just be patient.

Are you excited about something?
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: karajorma on April 01, 2005, 11:32:17 am: BTW this thin' about him confirmin' 17 new bishops. The hearty can't speak. Anyone think that th'priest hied in, hung about for five minutes an' then just said t'everyone outside "Hey! The pope just made us all bishops. Where do I hie t'collect me pay raise?" :lol:

EDIT : Italian priest speaking in pirate lingo just made the joke even better :D
Title: Pope Given Last Rites
Post by: aldo_14 on April 01, 2005, 11:35:38 am: "Well, he didn't say I couldn't be one!"