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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: MicroPsycho on April 21, 2005, 03:02:28 pm
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What are your thoughts on this piece of crap?
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You should be burned on a stake for saying that...
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Agreed...
Let's teach him how to say this in Korean and throw him into some place where all the SC players meet....and then......force him to scream this sentence several times...:shaking:
We'll visit you in hospital, I promise:nod:.
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I don't have much use for old games because, well... new games are better.
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warcraft is so much better
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Originally posted by Ford Prefect
I don't have much use for old games because, well... new games are better.
Right. Because the buckets of crap they're passing off as 'games' these days are sooooooo much better. :rolleyes:
SC is good because of it's replayability, and it's multiplayer (which is still free, BTW)
Shiny graphics and pretty pictures aren't what makes a game good. *Resists urge to quote LS about X2*
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Agreed. Starcraft is good - no, not good, but damned good! It's one of the only games other than WC3 that actually has properly and well balanced units, excellent gameplay and all comes along with an interesting story.
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plus the bad guys win in the end.
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Shiny graphics and pretty pictures aren't what makes a game good.
There are new games that have good storylines and gameplay, so given the choice between those and old games with crappy graphics, I would much rather play the ones that also look nice. It's like watching really dated movies; they might have good ideas behind them but I just can't get past the ridiculous music and dumb camera angles.
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Originally posted by MicroPsycho
What are your thoughts on this piece of crap?
**** you.
Starcraft is one of the best multiplayer masterpieces ever. There are still over 60k players online at a given time even though the game was made in 1998.
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Starcraft is still Korea's national game. Starcraft is still in the top 10 most played games in the world, even though it's 7 years old (and yes, we know CS is still well played too).
Don't get me wrong, i love other games... i play WC3 more than i play SC nowadays... and WC3 may have flashier graphics, but it's a newer game, and it STILL doesn't have the multiplayer audience that SC has. The only multiplayer game that can maybe compare to SC for its age, is probably CS (Counter-Strike)... but guess what... CAL and CPL (or at least one of them) is switching from CS to CS:S (counterstrike source... released a few months ago)... HOWEVER, there's no talk of them switching Starcraft touranments to something else. no sir, SC is still going strong.
i could keep going, but i won't :D
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Originally posted by MatthewPapa
Starcraft is one of the best multiplayer masterpieces ever. There are still over 60k players online at a given time even though the game was made in 1998.
I second that. One of the best games of all time. Even today, that game can still teach a lot of pseudo-publishers how to make and release a real game.
It had everything going for it. A good story, excellent voice acting and CGI cutscene, excellent gameplay and replay value, great balance, awesome music, it had it all. Most of all, Starcraft had that epic feel to it, like very few have managed to replicate to this day. The Protoss story was just overwhelming.
I would place Starcraft in the top 5 games of all time, definitelly.
Infact, i think i´ll install the bugger and play it right now!
:nod:
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yeah i'm going to get on tonight and play too (about 6 hours from now max)... if anyone else is up for it, let me know
- http://firingsquad.com/games/top_10_2004/page4.asp
- http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/listmania/list-browse/-/1F0HTCBRGDXQC/104-8048617-3997518
- http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/listmania/list-browse/-/3DHALDQ3NKMOY/104-8048617-3997518 (note the #9 entry, hehehe)
- http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=332232
just to mention a few :)
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Oh, oh, I want to play!
*installs in like 3 seconds*
Let me know when u want to play.
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Originally posted by Stealth
http://firingsquad.com/games/top_10_2004/page4.asp
http://firingsquad.com/games/top_10_2004/page8.asp
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Originally posted by MatthewPapa
Oh, oh, I want to play!
*installs in like 3 seconds*
Let me know when u want to play.
I've got it installed as well. I don't mind a game as well, but i'll be out for around ~14 hours. After that though, dont mind playing :D
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I think the game is stupid. its full of n00bs online, matches take little to no strategy and are generally over in 10 minutes or less and victory is heavily based on unit and resource-whoring early in a game. It looks plain ugly, AI is absolute **** and sound effects are bad, why the hell do things pop when they die. It may have a good story (I don't know because I havn't played it beyond a few multiplayer matches) but there are plenty of newer games with good storylines and 3D models/animation.
Besides, a 'friend' has been *****ing about it for almost 3 straight months and it pisses me off to no end.
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Wait... You're basing your entire judgement on a few MULTIPLAYER[/b] matches?! Those maps are the lamest, user-rape-world maps ever made! They're certainly going to suck. 9/10 do!
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Originally posted by MicroPsycho
I think the game is stupid. its full of n00bs online, matches take little to no strategy and are generally over in 10 minutes or less and victory is heavily based on unit and resource-whoring early in a game. It looks plain ugly, AI is absolute **** and sound effects are bad, why the hell do things pop when they die. It may have a good story (I don't know because I havn't played it beyond a few multiplayer matches) but there are plenty of newer games with good storylines and 3D models/animation.
Besides, a 'friend' has been *****ing about it for almost 3 straight months and it pisses me off to no end.
Just because you got your ass whooped in a few multi games it doesnt give you the grounds to say what your saying. N00bs online? hardly so if anything its the opposite. My average game time is about an hour on land maps and 2 hours on air superiority maps. And no strategy? thats hardly so. Just because you just suck at SC doesnt give you the grounds to bash it.
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what would "getting my ass whooped online" have anything to do with my opinion. I admit to losing games online, but I have one at least one. My success or failure in a multi game has no bearing on whether or not I like a game, I've played FS2 online and got my ass handed to me and I obviously don't hate that game. And as for noobs, I was in a match where a guy did not have a clue what lag was.
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Didn't know what lag was? So? Big deal.
Anyway...
I've never played Starcraft, so I'm probably missing alot. And I would be interested in it. But, what MicroPsycho described sounds alot like Warcraft II online. No strategy at all, just map full of units and that's it... So SC is better than that? I did like WC2 single player, though.
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kekeke...zerg rush =^_^=
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http://www.gamespot.com/gamespot/features/all/greatestgames/starcraft.html
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The cutscenes from StarCraft are still some of the my favorites, ever. Oh, and it's damn fun, too.
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Originally posted by Anaz
kekeke...zerg rush =^_^=
There's another retarded aspect of the game. All you need to do to win a multi match is mass 1st tier units, whcih requires no strategy.
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Love Starcraft offline... suck at it online.
Still one of my favorite games, but i just don't have the skills for playing this (or many others for that matter) online.
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Originally posted by MicroPsycho
There's another retarded aspect of the game. All you need to do to win a multi match is mass 1st tier units, whcih requires no strategy.
If you knew how to counter that you can totally destroy the other palyer when they do that...
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build enough rangers and rocket troopers in C&C Generals and you can do that too.
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Originally posted by MatthewPapa
If you knew how to counter that you can totally destroy the other palyer when they do that...
Logically the way to counter that would be to form/find a bottleneck, or whore defense buildings. Or you could sneak behind their rush to crush them.
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Originally posted by MicroPsycho
Logically the way to counter that would be to form/find a bottleneck, or whore defense buildings. Or you could sneak behind their rush to crush them.
Exactly, there you go. Strategy.
And after theyve wasted their imminent resources rushing you instead of building defense, you counterattack and crush them.
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If you hate Starcraft, you are anti-american. Why do you hate Freedom?
Obviously, I'm joking. But still, this is the type of nonsense that is this thread.
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full of n00bs?
you need to do two things
1) join Asia's server
2) try playing a ladder game......
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Originally posted by MicroPsycho
There's another retarded aspect of the game. All you need to do to win a multi match is mass 1st tier units, whcih requires no strategy.
99% of maps have some sort of cliff or bottleneck into a base... all your early buildings should be around that bottleneck... you don't have to build defense buildings... just one or two supply depots and a barracks to block the entrance, and one or two marines behind your wall, and you're set.
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Love StarCraft...lost many hours to that game. Much fun on all fronts...although Brood War was redicululously hard.
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Originally posted by IceFire
Love StarCraft...lost many hours to that game. Much fun on all fronts...although Brood War was redicululously hard.
Signed.
I used to play a lot before the Koreans got a hold of it. Had something around 80 wins and 2 losses or some strange **** like that (considering my strategic skills are dumbass).
It was pure ownage.
Can't stand it today because of the really really ugly graphics (hey, it was 1998, my eyes got used to some of the shiny crap of today), but I wouldn't mind playing again if they re-released it with better graphics. Wouldn't even want content change to buy it.
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We should get a good ole fashioned HLP starcraft tourney going. I love starcraft. I remember once, just once, I beat the #1 player in the world, and I felt like "the man".
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Originally posted by MicroPsycho
What are your thoughts on this piece of crap?
Flamebaiting?
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SC is gay, its
A) pointless
B) for people that have absolutely no lives
C) people that still own p2s
D) it looks like ****, sounds like ****, gameplay is ****
E) it is repetative
F) multiplayer sucks my aunts bawls
G) the storyline sucks ass
H) the terran are cool, the 2 other races are no doubt the lamest idea of an enemy i have ever layed eyes about.
I) the people who play it have no self esteem
J) the people who RAPE you:
A) only care about APM
B) saving the replay to watch it over and over
C) waiting for the WCGs that year so they can get their asses handed over and lose any hope of being a 'noobhammer'
K) I rather play minesweeper or solitare on windows 95
L) there are so much games that are worth playing over SC
M) Worms armageddon > SC
Joint ops > SC
Flat out > SC
Act of War > SC
Rome: total war > SC
Planetside > SC
Brothers in arms > SC
FS > Sc
Freelancer > SC
Eve > SC
hell even pong and tetris > SC
Not to mention my 3 friends who are just discovering SC and they talk about it 24/7 and think they are uber noobhammers and think they have a chance at WCGs, which they don't
they play everyday, have no lives, they are a bunch of followers and cannot afford decent pcs, well 2 of the 3 can, but one I have respect for, one i have little to no respect for and the 3rd, he is justa plain follower, so he does what they do because he can be very pathetic at times
I'm not saying that you people who like it are complete moronix smacktards, but when people talk about it like decades after is release, and still play it over 20 hours a week, it frankly pisses me off to a point where i can not deal with it
I have nothing against SC players, only the ones who play SC as their only game, for instance, these 3 friends
let go guys, meet some chicks or something, they are so much better than lame 9 year old pc games, especially RTS
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If you actually registerred just to ake this post (which I assume, reading your signature) then I hope your stay on HLP is short lived, and not very enjoyable.
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And if you went to all the trouble to register for that, try adding more funny next time.
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well a) i have an account, couldnt remember the pass, so i made a new one and chose that as my sig because it is true
now go to beddy byes now you young tards
oh, and as for you Raa, you just bought me another 2 weeks minimum, get used to me
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harsh...
Ya, that's pretty much the situation and as someone said earlier, if it had better graphics, at least 3d models I would consider giving it a second chance, but as it stands, its not worth my time.
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Originally posted by FelixMajor
oh, and as for you Raa, you just bought me another 2 weeks minimum, get used to me
You're going to make friends with my ignore list! :D
And wee! Nothing to have to get used to! ^^
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haha only tards that can't stand being humiliated will put someone on ignore
but lets stay on topic raa, shall we
SC is the topic remember you smacktards, and how much it sucks
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
And if you went to all the trouble to register for that, try adding more funny next time.
it was not meant to be funny, it is my opinion along with a few majority facts
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Wow. Flamebait! How original!
Call me a tard all you want, you're still the one who registerred here just to bash a game that has nothing to do with what HLP was formed for.
Also, I don't get humiliated easily. I laugh at most insults, and yours are no exception.
And also... :lol: @ 'smacktards'
I've never heard that word used by real people before! Always on the GS banner advertisements! Kudos!
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we will see raa, we will see
and as for smacktards, you must be either american or do not get out much
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*sigh* I used to be addicted to this game so badly (Stealth would know).
Sadly, WC3 and FS2 took over my life. Though WC3 is good, SC just had an old appeal to it that was just plain addicting. I don't know what it was, but it was just right.
The singleplayer story was just classic, and I don't think I've seen better in any other game. Period.
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I've not heard any of the Brits, here, say 'Smacktard' either, FYI.
But yes, I am American.
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nuclear1 is someone who can be a man and move on
why can't you?
and brothers in arms is a great game for storyline, not to mention planetside if you actually follow along
*although BIA is based on WWII, so its nothing original, but very accurate and it pleased me
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Originally posted by Raa
If you hate Starcraft, you are anti-american. Why do you hate Freedom?
Obviously, I'm joking. But still, this is the type of nonsense that is this thread.
how did you know?!
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SC and Brothers in Arms are two completely different genres. You can't really compare the two.
Star Craft is a strategy game.
Brothers in Arms is a shooting game.
oh, and as for you Raa, you just bought me another 2 weeks minimum, get used to me
Oh, cats, look, it's a moron!
Raa is an active, contributing member, here. You are a moronic n00b who signed up to post a load of rubbish. Hey, and guess what? Star Craft can't be "gay," because it's a computer game. Computer games can't have gender issues, you poorly-educated slob.
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Originally posted by FelixMajor
nuclear1 is someone who can be a man and move on
why can't you?
Err. You keep replying to my posts, and directing remarks to me. How am I the one who can't move on?
Seriously, grow up a little. Insulting other users because of a game that they like really shows the content of your character.
You can attack my 'manliness' all you want. You're such a funny n00bar! :lol:
And you did it! You made friends with my ignore list! :)
Have a nice night!
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Raa. Ban him. He isn't going to contribute to the community. Send him back to lurking.
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Originally posted by Blitzerland
Raa. Ban him. He isn't going to contribute to the community. Send him back to lurking.
I'm not an admin. I cannot ban people, Blitz. :)
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I seem to have made a critical, boneheaded mistake. The notion that you were only the moderator of the modding forum seemed to escape me. Beginning blame transfer.
*transfering blame now*
Dang, at the very least, he could've thought you were an admin. Way to reply to my post. :p
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according to my friend, you can compare fps to an rts....
im not saying its easy, but if you read my post, i was talking about storyline, so genre has no purpose..and as i said BIA is based on real life history, of course you cant compare the gameplay, but its still a great game
and raa im just ****tin, i like to spamm post and add lame, and sometimes funny remarks
dw, its not gonna stay that way im done
might hang around, but i havnt really explored the forum, so ill check it out, but as the being a dick, its not me dw
blitz im canadian, im guessing that you are british, so get used to it dude we use different words, over here it have become a word as common as lame or stupid....
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Maybe it's an0n. Seems a little outrageous to be a real person over the age of ten.
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according to my friend, you can compare fps to an rts....
Your "friend" is thus, a moron.
and raa im just ****tin, i like to spamm post and add lame, and sometimes funny remarks
Then go post at PenguinBomb. They'll flame you to death, and we won't have to deal with you. And by "sometimes," I assume you really meant "never?"
blitz im canadian, im guessing that you are british
You fail. I'm American.
so get used to it dude we use different words, over here it have become a word as common as lame or stupid....
This isn't helping the Canadian stereotype. Ruddy uneducated lumberjacks. :blah:
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wow... well put blitz
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its actually kinda lame when people make themselves sound older on the internet.....
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It's actually kinda lame when felix posts on the internet.
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ok blitz thats more of what im used to from you:p
felix who are you(your "other account that you lost the password to")? why do you feel the need to spam like a moron, saying things that really have no meaning to anyone
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Oh, Felix,
:welcome:
:lol:
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FelixMajor, you have no room to use my name as a man who can "move on". I was simply saying that I don't play SC much anymore; I never came anywhere near your position of bashing SC.
I put a few good words in about it, and I think you, sir, need to grow up and move on.
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Originally posted by FelixMajor
its actually kinda lame when people make themselves sound older on the internet.....
True enough. But a sloppy or poorly-though-out post shows ones ignorance, or one's laziness. Both qualities are negative in nature, and both are present in most young posters. By assuming that a person is young and immature, you are in fact giving that person the benefit of the doubt, and assuming that it's not a lazy or ignorant 28 year old, but merely an understandably lazy or ignorant 11 year old.
On topic-
I loved starcraft when I played it. It is, IMHO, one of the best and truest real time strategies ever made. To say that there's no strategy, and that a few cheap tricks will bag a win for you, doesn't do justice to the amout of time people STILL spend competing in this game. Why would they keep playing if it was that simple. For every strategy, there's a counter-strategy.
I understand the reasoning, however- I get my head handed to me every time I play an RTS with a friend of mine; I COULD just go 'meh, he just whored the paladins and rushed me, how lame', or I could sit back and realize that If I had expected the onslaught, I could have defended myself. I don't think RTS-ish, I'm just not good at that mode of competition.
I also play CS, another game where people who suck at it sit back and say 'hah, all you have to do is camp/rush/drop the bomb/ by x weapon/ and you win. It's so lame'. Also not true, I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum with this tactical FPS- CS, like SC, is a defining game for it's genre-. I think very well in that environment, and there's a strategy and set of rules and tactics in CS. I hand my friend's head to HIM in CS.
Some people aren't competitive in different genres; they just arent wired the same way. That's why the gaming industry is as diverse as it is, the demand is so varied. To bash any one genre, or a genre-defining game (because to insult SC is to insult Age of Empires, AoE II, The warcrafts, Empire Earth, Rise of Nations, the star wars RTS spinoffs; any game based on the rock-paper-scissors strategy of Starcraft and it's predecessors) because the path to victory seems stupid is arrogant and foolish.
And, if the poster ISNT ignorant, or a child(ish), then it's flamebait, and should have been ignored.
*whew*
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My big problem is that these days it seems like 90% of the focus is on real-time strategy, and I actually prefer turn-based games. Anyone ever play Imperialism? Man, that was a fun game.
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Wow!! :wtf:
I think i´ll let FelixMajor make friends with my ignore list too.
Sorry dude, but i have a strick policy not to feed the trolls.
Now go away, shooohh.
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I didn't read this thread, but I'm closing it on general principles.