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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stealth on April 24, 2005, 05:05:50 pm
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PROVIDENCE -- A police detective was shot to death with his own service weapon at department headquarters early Sunday while he was questioning a potential suspect in a stabbing, the police chief said.
James Allen, a 27-year veteran, was shot in a detective conference room while questioning Estenban Carpio, Chief Dean Esserman said.
Police believe Carpio, 26, who was not handcuffed, got hold of the officer's gun, shot Allen, broke a third floor window in an adjacent office and jumped onto a service road, Esserman said at a news conference. Carpio was captured after a struggle a few blocks away.
Allen had been questioning Carpio about his possible connection to a stabbing attack Saturday on an 84-year-old woman, Esserman said. Carpio was not under arrest and had been taken out of handcuffs, he said. The woman was expected to recover.
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Yeah, supposedly the cops beat the living piss out of him for that. His face looks fake.
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Holy crap...
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Is that a bloke or a woman in the background. :wtf:
*shudders*
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Originally posted by Raa
Yeah, supposedly the cops beat the living piss out of him for that. His face looks fake.
i'm assuming it looks fake because they had to graft his skin back together...
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I'm still torn about this. I feel bad for the guy. I mean, look at him. It makes me cringe to see that. But I don't like what he did, either.
Although... why was the cop armed in an interrogation room? :wtf:
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Ironically enough, it was probably procedure for interviewing uncuffed prisoners.
As for the having the living **** kicked out of him. Though I'm in two minds about it all, he's still breathing (atm) the copper is not so he's still ahead in the game. Personally, I have no mercy for murderers, but I do have a feeling that Police shouldn't display the kind of behaviour they were created to suppress....
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Why is he wearing a Hannibal face-mask? Are they afraid he's going to eat someone's liver with a nice chiante?
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If you saw ur buddy shot by a bum like that you would most likely do the same thing. Hell, I would have probably killed the guy.
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Welcome to 101 - Wrong things with the people in this world.
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Originally posted by Flipside
Ironically enough, it was probably procedure for interviewing uncuffed prisoners.
As for the having the living **** kicked out of him. Though I'm in two minds about it all, he's still breathing (atm) the copper is not so he's still ahead in the game. Personally, I have no mercy for murderers, but I do have a feeling that Police shouldn't display the kind of behaviour they were created to suppress....
The way I see it is that police have a duty to observe the law regardless of provocation....yes, it's a reprehensible act the guy did, but I don't believe one crime can solve the problems of the first. I mean, if someone killed a friend or relative or mine, I'd want to kill them; but at the same time I wouldn't be able to stoop to that level - their level.
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But the difference is, if you took revenge it would be as a private citizen, and therefore more or less understandable. Those acting on behalf of the government, especially those tasked with preventing crimes, must act from the moral high ground if they are to be taken seriously.
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Originally posted by Rictor
Why is he wearing a Hannibal face-mask? Are they afraid he's going to eat someone's liver with a nice chiante?
police say it's to stop him from spitting.
the general consensus is that his face is too messed up to show it...
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the underlying "problem" here, is that if that guy shot a guy on the street, and the dead guy's friends beat the hell out of him, they'd all be in jail now. but because it was cops that did it, they're all going to get away scot-free.
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If you saw ur buddy shot by a bum like that you would most likely do the same thing. Hell, I would have probably killed the guy.
That's kinda why we have laws and regulations. We all know that we'd want to beat the hell out of him if we were in that situation, but when we condone it, society frays at the edges.
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Originally posted by Rictor
Why is he wearing a Hannibal face-mask? Are they afraid he's going to eat someone's liver with a nice chiante?
They also say its the saliva/puss/blood oozing from his mouth.
Nice mental picture, eh?
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freakycool, we need more people like him. it would greatly help reduce earth's population.
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Originally posted by Rictor
But the difference is, if you took revenge it would be as a private citizen, and therefore more or less understandable. Those acting on behalf of the government, especially those tasked with preventing crimes, must act from the moral high ground if they are to be taken seriously.
It's not really understandable IMO for even a private citizen; afterall, think about why would you want revenge? Because what you want to do in revenge, is the same or close to the act which you want revenge for. Remove the order of them, and you're both as bad as the other.
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Remove the order and Britain invaded France on a whim and attacked Germany withoutout provocation.
It's not that I disagree with you, at least not completely, but I think that revenge is more understandable when carried out by an individual with emotions, feelings and passions than by an organization, cold, beaurocratic and calculated. So the question then becomes, were the cops acting as people, or as agents and representatives of the government.
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Originally posted by Rictor
Remove the order and Britain invaded France on a whim and attacked Germany withoutout provocation.
Not if you take the war as a single instance (in which case the 2nd instance would be Britain or France invading Germany in, say, 1955 for revenge)..
My point is the simple one of '2 wrongs don't make a right'; i.e. you can't avenge / amend / repair a mistake with one just as bad.
Originally posted by Rictor
It's not that I disagree with you, at least not completely, but I think that revenge is more understandable when carried out by an individual with emotions, feelings and passions than by an organization, cold, beaurocratic and calculated. So the question then becomes, were the cops acting as people, or as agents and representatives of the government.
Well, the question is surely 'can you stop being human'?
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The guy looks like Rocky after the fight with Apollo. It´s a wonder he can still see at all, from behind those potatoes in his eyes....
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yeah imagine what he looks like under that mask... the cops really gave it to him, no doubt about that