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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rictor on April 24, 2005, 11:17:25 pm
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So says Efraim Halevy, former head of Mossad and advisor to Sharon.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/568076.html
In a visit to the United States two weeks ago, I was told by several well-informed observers that should one of the more severe scenarios come to pass, the United States will have no choice but to deepen its presence in the Middle East. To that end, it will have to renew the draft, to ensure that there are enough forces to deal with developing situations in countries like Saudi Arabia.
ation of President Bush to act consistently to realize his policy in Baghdad. There is a good possibility that Iraq will not be the last country in the region that will require a lengthy American military presence. The U.S. campaign in Iraq was perceived as a signal of long-term American commitment to do whatever is required and to stay in the "neighborhood" for as long as needed. It was none other than Martin Indyk, the former U.S. ambassador to Israel, who not long ago raised the idea of establishing an American trusteeship regime in the areas of the Palestinian Authority, if it should turn out that the Palestinians are not ripe for self-rule. That arrangement would require an American operational military presence along Israel's border with the Palestinian territories.
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What is Haaretz anyways? It'd be nice to see multiple sources...
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Ha'aertz is one of the leading Israeli newspapers. And there's no other source cause it's an opinion article, not news. I probably should have put a dislaimer somewhere, this wasn't intended as news, just an interesting article considering the source..
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To that end, it will have to renew the draft
...Oh hell no...uh uh...If they try that crap, i'm screwed...unless you don't have to go for being the only male child your parents have o_O
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Same boat here.
How about we start a rebellion? :)
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Originally posted by Ace
How about we start a rebellion? :)
I'd love to, but we can't. The Democrats have all our guns. :p
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If you're whining about a lack of guns since you can't improvise your own weapons out of paperclips, bubblegum, and cellphone batteries, you don't deserve to be in the rebellion :p
Then again, you're probably one of the people who voted for the reason this rebellion had to be started in the first place. :ick:
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Originally posted by Ace
If you're whining about a lack of guns since you can't improvise your own weapons out of paperclips, bubblegum, and cellphone batteries, you don't deserve to be in the rebellion :p
Oh, I think I could - I'm an engineer, after all. But guns would make it so much easier. ;)Then again, you're probably one of the people who voted for the reason this rebellion had to be started in the first place. :ick:
Only partially. I voted for Bush in 2000 but Badnarik in 2004.
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You can only be halfway in the rebellion then :)
Which means you can engineer the anti-matter bombs, but not use them. (only half the fun!)
Canadians are welcome to join in. We need the man (and woman ;7 ) power!
*Homeland Security watchdog visits the thread*
Ermm... *gives Imperial salute* Long Live the Empire!
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Originally posted by Ace
You can only be halfway in the rebellion then :)
Which means you can engineer the anti-matter bombs, but not use them. (only half the fun!)
But... but... but... I want to do both. :(
Hmm... a significatnt part of engineering anything is testing it... :drevil:
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Originally posted by Ace
Same boat here.
How about we start a rebellion? :)
Move to Canada.
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Quite frankly, they'd have to draft at gunpoint. And if they did that, how could they claim to be any better than the people they are fighting, the mask would be off entirely.
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That reminds me. I need to do that whole Selective Service thing in the next month or so.
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Originally posted by Flipside
Quite frankly, they'd have to draft at gunpoint. And if they did that, how could they claim to be any better than the people they are fighting, the mask would be off entirely.
Exactly why there will be no such thing as the draft.
Originally posted by Goober5000
I'd love to, but we can't. The Democrats have all our guns. :p
Point number two. I'm sooo resisting the urge to elaborate :p
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Bah, if they draft me, I'll tell them I'm gay. They'll kick me out real quick.
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Originally posted by Flipside
Quite frankly, they'd have to draft at gunpoint. And if they did that, how could they claim to be any better than the people they are fighting, the mask would be off entirely.
I suspect all they'd need would be an appropriate 'national security emergency'; i.e. something to make it look a forced decision and rouse up patroitic urges.
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*rereads Amendment II*
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Hmm... now, if you asked me, I'd say that reads "the people have the right to bear arms IN ORDER TO have a militia (i.e. what's now the National Guard)."
Then again, I suppose a rebel group would be sorta a militia, wouldn't it? :D
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Originally posted by Corsair
*rereads Amendment II*Hmm... now, if you asked me, I'd say that reads "the people have the right to bear arms IN ORDER TO have a militia (i.e. what's now the National Guard)."
Then again, I suppose a rebel group would be sorta a militia, wouldn't it? :D
Technically, yes.
Now building that rebellion... ;7
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Originally posted by Raa
Bah, if they draft me, I'll tell them I'm gay. They'll kick me out real quick.
They can't do that these days. Your ass pleads you not to do it.
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They can, actually. If you are gay, and in the military, it's a don't ask don't tell policy. They won't ask you, and you don't tell anyone, and you can stay and fight. Even if it's blatantly obvious.
However, as soon as you tell them, they still have a 0 tolerance policy, and will kick you out, probably with a dihonourable discharge... :p
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Originally posted by Raa
They can, actually. If you are gay, and in the military, it's a don't ask don't tell policy. They won't ask you, and you don't tell anyone, and you can stay and fight. Even if it's blatantly obvious.
However, as soon as you tell them, they still have a 0 tolerance policy, and will kick you out, probably with a dihonourable discharge... :p
Or, they promote you to the position of 'Designated Bullet Shield'.
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Operation Hide Behind the Homos
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<------------ wants to assemble a joke about Gays, the American Army and Dishonourable discharges, but thinks he'll get into trouble with someone no matter how he words it ;)
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According to George Orwell, we're not poor enough to rebel and for it to make a difference. We'll just restart the cycle. Although, I do agree, there needs to be a "regime change" and it's our right to change our government if we don't like it.
If there's a draft, you can bet it'll be like Vietnam again with protests, civil disobedience and such. The government will be fending for it's own preservation. It'll be the 60's all over again. Those who don't learn from history are condemned to repeat it. Although, even history itself is biased.
If you're going to start a rebellion, you'd better overthrow the media first, or you'll be squashed by a much of zombies.
"The Neo Terran Front is an army of stupid cattle, driven by their hatreds, their fears and insecurities. Ignorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny and old wounds open all too easily."
Think about it, even though this isn't the NTF.
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Or, they promote you to the position of 'Designated Bullet Shield'.
No, no, it's 'Shell Catcher 1st Class'.
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Such a classic term...
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"Tactical Meat Shield"
(aka infantry)
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:lol: It's amazing how fast this went from a serious discussion to who could come up with the funniest term for the suicide grunt squad.
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As Plato once said....
'Only the Dead have seen the end of War'.
And yes, you'll find we have InterSubject Ballistic Threads around here ;)