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Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Ghost on April 29, 2005, 08:08:38 pm: I liked it, but the ending... god, it made me mad. I can take Mirror Archer being killed by Hoshi, but the fact that they didn't show Hoshi blow up any ships.... god dammit!
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: neo_hermes on April 29, 2005, 08:13:59 pm: :/ man...
Spoiler:
She's goin to blow each and every Major city till they surrender.

she's evil, sexy, and a leader...
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: vyper on April 29, 2005, 08:34:48 pm: She's going to blow each and every officer as well probably. Boom boom.

Anyway - I know I shouldn't be looking at spoilers till I see the episode but WTF is going on with the torrenting folk tonight? You just can't get the pirates these days ;)
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Ghost on April 29, 2005, 08:38:11 pm: You can't really blame them, can you? At least for Enterprise... Seeing as how it's going off the air, and no amount of money's going to bring it back, why would you blow money on DVDs that just puts money in the paramount *******s' pockets?

Anyway, who else watched this episode? I knew Archer was gonna get the shaft, but I was hoping that they would show more stuff exploding.

I <3 the Connie

EDIT: hey, Bob... this part had the bearded Vulcan you were wanting.
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Ace on April 29, 2005, 11:03:21 pm: Empress Sato... niiice :)
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Annorax on April 29, 2005, 11:19:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Ghost
You can't really blame them, can you? At least for Enterprise... Seeing as how it's going off the air, and no amount of money's going to bring it back, why would you blow money on DVDs that just puts money in the paramount *******s' pockets?

Anyway, who else watched this episode? I knew Archer was gonna get the shaft, but I was hoping that they would show more stuff exploding.

I <3 the Connie

EDIT: hey, Bob... this part had the bearded Vulcan you were wanting.

Why pay for it? I'm sure you have a friend who shoplifts.... I sure wish I did...
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Ghost on April 29, 2005, 11:25:31 pm: I already answered that question: it won't bring Ent. back, and the money just goes into some paper-pushers' pockets.
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Omniscaper on April 30, 2005, 01:17:58 am: GREAT TWO PARTER!!! I LOVE THE CONNIE!!!!

Yes... that ending SUCKED!!! I got nothing against Sato... nice body BTW. Archer's rise to Emperor would have sucked too. He is still Captain Cheese Beagle no matter what universe. I guess those episodes require much more time to end satisfyingly.

Those episodes are such c*ck teasers......

I DEMAND A CONTINUATION OF THE MIRROR UNIVERSE STORY!!!!

The 1960's motif LOOKS GREAT with today's effects, cinematography, and music. I would love the next Trek TV carnation [ if ever again :( ] to be based on pre-Kirk times but after Cpt Cheese Beagle. I would love to see the missions of Captain Pike be made into a series. The motif for "The Menagerie" would also probably appeal to the folks who think Kirks multi-color madness is too campy. I'm not one of those people, and as you can see in these last two episodes... it worked quite well IMO.
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Mongoose on April 30, 2005, 01:55:16 am: Yum...Constitution :D Looking at that ship never gets old, especially in high-poly rendered goodness.

Another fantastic episode. I honestly didn't mind the ending; it threw me a little bit. I mean, I expected Archer to get shafted in one way or another, but Hoshi? I mean, come on; she's had ten lines during the entire series! :p What did make me stop and think for a second was the very real possibility that this could be the last time that a Constitution-class ship is featured in a Star Trek episode, which would be an unbelievable shame. :( At the same time, I'm eagerly anticipating the next two weeks; the penultimate two-parter should be unbelievable, and I just want to find out how the heck the finale will fit in. Guess I'd better start saving up for the exorbitant cost of those DVDs, too. :p
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Singh on April 30, 2005, 02:18:08 am: ya know, one of these days, when I get a new HD, i'm gonna download the entire series, find an empty sunday, and just watch it....till then, i guess I miss all the fuss...
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Ace on April 30, 2005, 02:50:15 am: Quote
Originally posted by Mongoose
What did make me stop and think for a second was the very real possibility that this could be the last time that a Constitution-class ship is featured in a Star Trek episode, which would be an unbelievable shame. :( At the same time, I'm eagerly anticipating the next two weeks; the penultimate two-parter should be unbelievable, and I just want to find out how the heck the finale will fit in.

It is sort of strange that the last scene is also the first time that the original Constitution class ship is scene over Earth.

The upcoming two parter does seem interesting. In the preview it claims that T'Pol and Tripp have a child, but I thought that Spock was the first Human-Vulcan? Probably a misleading preview.

The show finale, from what I've heard from rumors, is crap and might turn Enterprise into nothing more than a holodeck adventure.
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: SadisticSid on April 30, 2005, 08:16:14 am: Quote
Originally posted by Ace

It is sort of strange that the last scene is also the first time that the original Constitution class ship is scene over Earth.

The upcoming two parter does seem interesting. In the preview it claims that T'Pol and Tripp have a child, but I thought that Spock was the first Human-Vulcan? Probably a misleading preview.

The show finale, from what I've heard from rumors, is crap and might turn Enterprise into nothing more than a holodeck adventure.

At least those f*cktards B&B won't be able to do any more damage to the Star Trek universe... although if what you suggest is true, it'll cock up any attempts to get it restarted in the future. :(
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Liberator on April 30, 2005, 08:46:28 am: No, Spock was the first Hybrid in Starfleet.
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Ashrak on April 30, 2005, 09:45:26 am: i loved the ep ... especially the ending .. it was ...well surpriseing :D so yeah kickass ... to bad its cancelled :(
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: vyper on April 30, 2005, 02:32:52 pm: **** me that was awesome. :D
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Mongoose on April 30, 2005, 03:06:18 pm: From what I understand, the holodeck issue in the last episode won't negate the rest of the series. That being said, I'm still very unsure as to what they're going to do with it; guess the only way to find out is to wait two more weeks.
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Dough with Fish on April 30, 2005, 04:51:06 pm: Well, who says the child has to survive?
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Annorax on April 30, 2005, 06:03:27 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Dough with Fish
Well, who says the child has to survive?

Who says the child isn't adopted?
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Carl on April 30, 2005, 06:07:31 pm: Here's an idea: T'pol and Trip's Baby is Spock. Sarek is Spock's adopted father.
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Annorax on April 30, 2005, 06:19:29 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Carl
Here's an idea: T'pol and Trip's Baby is Spock. Sarek is Spock's adopted father.

Nope. I'd buy their adopted full-blood Vulcan son named Sarek... but not this.
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Carl on April 30, 2005, 06:23:43 pm: He can't be adopted, because she's pregnant. Unless you mean they adopted a second child, which seems kind of silly when they just had their first. Not enough episodes left.
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Annorax on April 30, 2005, 06:27:20 pm: Do they even have the medical technology to cross human and Vulcan DNA yet? As I recall, organic life on Earth is carbon-based... and Vulcan life is iron-based.

Although it wouldn't surprise me if Phlox was the one to finally figure this one out.
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: StratComm on April 30, 2005, 06:31:32 pm: No, no, no... Vulcan hemoglobin is copper-based, while human is iron. I'm pretty certain all humanoid life in ST is carbon-based.
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Hunter on April 30, 2005, 06:36:50 pm: Another fangasm episode. Great music too, sounded great on my 5.1 anyhow. And the Gorn CGI was pretty decent. Oh, and all them devilish characters.. And everyone was looking so hot... I LURBED IT. MORE :(
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: vyper on April 30, 2005, 06:47:29 pm: Erm, guys. She doesn't actually "have" the baby - it's been created elsewhere afaik using their DNA. **** knows how, it just has.
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Getter Robo G on April 30, 2005, 08:35:44 pm: Sheesh, [Teacher hat time...] Ok Trip and T'pol HAD a son (forgets name).. he wasn't IN starfleet just on Enterprise (which became a generational ship). because they were out of time they cant go back to Earth and mess up teh timeline so they stayed in the Expanse until Ent shows up with archer adn company... So you see Spock was NOT the first hybrid, but only the first hybrid to officially enter Starfleet... [Removes Teacher hat...]

Any other questions?

btw I missed like almost all of last season out of protest... (sorry Manny but you still got one of B&B on board and he must die also)...
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Grey Wolf on April 30, 2005, 08:53:35 pm: Quote
Originally posted by StratComm
No, no, no... Vulcan hemoglobin is copper-based, while human is iron. I'm pretty certain all humanoid life in ST is carbon-based.
You forget your TOS. How can you possibly not think of the Horta?
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Annorax on April 30, 2005, 09:53:09 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Grey Wolf
You forget your TOS. How can you possibly not think of the Horta?

Hortas are humanoid? :confused:
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Ace on April 30, 2005, 11:25:30 pm: Only if you count those obese Wal-Mart customers as human...
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Mongoose on May 01, 2005, 02:36:31 am: Getter Robo G, none of that really matters anyway, since that Enterprise ceased to exist in this timeline when they helped save the original Enterprise. Also, if you're referring to boycotting season 4, you've done yourself a massive disservice; I consider this to be perhaps the best Trek season out of all of the series.
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Annorax on May 01, 2005, 06:44:48 am: Quote
Originally posted by Getter Robo G
(sorry Manny but you still got one of B&B on board and he must die also)...

Berman is just as unemployed as the rest of Enterprise's cast and crew... with no Trek projects in the works, there's no point in keeping him around, is there?

Besides, if Paramount's retirement benefits work the same way as the rest of the world's, after 18 years of working on various Trek projects in various capacities, the SOB should be getting downsized just about a year short of retirement. :nod: :nod:
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Grey Wolf on May 01, 2005, 12:38:43 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Annorax

Hortas are humanoid? :confused:
No, I just misread the post by missing the word "humanoid".
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: IceFire on May 01, 2005, 12:44:34 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Annorax

Berman is just as unemployed as the rest of Enterprise's cast and crew... with no Trek projects in the works, there's no point in keeping him around, is there?

Besides, if Paramount's retirement benefits work the same way as the rest of the world's, after 18 years of working on various Trek projects in various capacities, the SOB should be getting downsized just about a year short of retirement. :nod: :nod:

Naa he's producing a new non-Trek series.
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Ulala on May 02, 2005, 01:50:36 am: Mmmm, never thought I'd see the Constitution be so menacing.. :drevil:
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Liberator on May 02, 2005, 10:25:06 am: Tell me about it. Nor have I ever seen it as graceful as it was either.
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: mitac on May 02, 2005, 04:44:45 pm: Having grown up with TNG, I always looked at the Constitution as a tiny, little, old ship. Compared to the Galaxy class, it certainly is - but compared to the NX ... :nervous:
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: neo_hermes on May 02, 2005, 05:26:29 pm: i want to see a miranda or a Soyuz... but a constitution is fine..
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: vyper on May 02, 2005, 05:28:16 pm: I liked the fact they stayed true to the TOS sound effects and phaser colour (although it wasn't exactly consistent anyway)
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Liberator on May 02, 2005, 06:24:09 pm: yeah, twas cool, but the phasers we're blue enough.
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Carl on May 02, 2005, 07:15:30 pm: in TOS the phasers were sometimes blue, sometimes red.
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Sandwich on May 04, 2005, 04:29:02 pm: I must say that Hunter said it best: fangasam. I was shouting things like "No freakin way!!!" and "unbe-freakin-leivable!!" all throughout the two episodes. One heck of a ride. :)
Title: In a Mirror, Darkly part II(spoilers)
Post by: Ace on May 04, 2005, 04:50:21 pm: I think most of this season has been a fangasm. The whole Orion stuff, the augments, Vulcan W. Bush, etc. :)