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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Annorax on April 30, 2005, 10:17:37 pm
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http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/showcase/la-fg-photo27apr27.story
Stupid people comment here: http://www.boingboing.net/2005/04/28/la_times_pedophilia_.html
Can we say slander? They bust one hardcore Trekkie who robs the cradle, so now all Trekkies are baby rapists? WTF?
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actually it is kinda depressing.
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Agreed. How dare they slander our good name!
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very sad...
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Ha! Get used to it! It's like how they ban all homosexuals as having aids, and all furs as being into beastiality! :p
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ven diagrams.
most pedaphiles could be considered humans, but that doesn't mean that most humans could be considered pedaphiles. the same thing goes with trekkies.
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Originally posted by Raa
all furs as being into beastiality! :p
no, just wrong in the head.
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I agree that that comment was either overexaggerated or taken out of context. After all, in the sentence before that one, they state that all of the officers in that unit are Trekkies too.
On a related note, that article was horrifying. I couldn't even begin to imagine doing that job day after day, looking at those horrific images. No punishment is too severe for the monsters who do these things.
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most pedophiles have to be protected in jail.... the common criminals tend to be extra creative when those type of lawbreakers show up.....
Personally, i think they should all be shot.....
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:sigh:
Here we go again.
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i think the point was that the archetype of a pedophile generally has them living in a fantasy world. i dont see how anyone with any grasp of reality could commit such atrocities.
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This is idiotic. The officers are Internet saavy techies chasing down other internet saavy techies.
How many people do you know who fall into that category who aren't fans of Star Trek? Note that on the other page we find that he simply meant that they were fans of Trek not actual trekkies.
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ah, baseless labelling of a group because of one member's action... wouldn't be the human race without it..
seeing as how people who believe such labels are complete utter idiots who need to exist for wasting people's time, and resources..
pity them, for they are uneducated morons who wouldn't know their arse from their elbow, and wouldn't know if either were on fire either.
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Originally posted by Carl
most pedaphiles could be considered humans
That's debatable. :doubt:
I live in a non-capital punishment country, and think that they should be shot.
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Ah so finally the personalities of Trekkies all over the world has been revealed in that article.
Although when you actually think about it, I'm going to wager a guess that there are at least a few pedophiles here among us on HLP.
You know. Because people love Star Trek. :doubt:
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Originally posted by Dranon
most pedophiles have to be protected in jail.... the common criminals tend to be extra creative when those type of lawbreakers show up.....
Personally, i think they should all be shot.....
Well, i wouldn´t go that far, but i sure get a kick when i hear some pedophile got anally raped by an angry mob in jail. Kinda poetic justice...
Lots of them now answer to the name "ho", and all walk funny now.
:drevil:
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Originally posted by Grug
That's debatable. :doubt:
I live in a non-capital punishment country, and think that they should be shot.
I live in a non-capital punishment state that's currently considering bringing back capital punishment because of a recent child abduction and murder (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151486,00.html) in my city. I think shooting the bastards is actually too good for them, and those convicted of murdering or raping children should be tortured to death.... the slower and more painful, the better.
edit: the bastard killed the kid to try to cover for his brother who raped her. dump em both in a vat of boiling acid already?
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Or turn them over to a shrink who can analyze them, figure out what went wrong and find a way to stop it going wrong in other people?
There's a novel idea for you all. Actually find a prevention method that addresses why people do something, not what will happen to them once they have.
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This, of course means that Neil Armstrong, Steven Spielberg and Will Smith are all paedophiles? Not to mention Gene Rodenberry.
I wish people would think before opening their mouths sometimes.
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Originally posted by vyper
Or turn them over to a shrink who can analyze them, figure out what went wrong and find a way to stop it going wrong in other people?
There's a novel idea for you all. Actually find a prevention method that addresses why people do something, not what will happen to them once they have.
Good luck!:D
Each individual is an universe for itself. A shrink can't really do or know much...
And besides, there could be millions of possible trigers for such behaviour..you can't find tham all. Nor prevent it. When you catch the guy it's allready too late...
I say shoot the bastardz.
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Shrinks are probably the second most evil things on this planet. I've been to one, and all he did was make me feel even worse ( several years ago when my family was having problems). He made everything seem like it was my fault, regardless of whether it was or not.
They should be stuck in a room together for a few days, and see how many don't kill each other....
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Originally posted by vyper
Or turn them over to a shrink who can analyze them, figure out what went wrong and find a way to stop it going wrong in other people?
There's a novel idea for you all. Actually find a prevention method that addresses why people do something, not what will happen to them once they have.
Assuming you can correctly identify warning signs or causes of some sort, what then? To apply such information to the general population would require surveilliance and invasion of privacy on a level that exceeds anything yet done by humanity. Or you can rely on the general population...which is exactly the system that we have now.
All efforts to date to treat pedophiles, indeed, sexual predators in general, have failed miserably. The recividism rate under such programs has never been any better then that of simply sending them to jail. Indeed, sending them to jail actually works better, because the sentences are longer and when they get out, if they get out at all, they're generally too old to do something like that again.
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Originally posted by ngtm1r
Assuming you can correctly identify warning signs or causes of some sort, what then? To apply such information to the general population would require surveilliance and invasion of privacy on a level that exceeds anything yet done by humanity. Or you can rely on the general population...which is exactly the system that we have now.
All efforts to date to treat pedophiles, indeed, sexual predators in general, have failed miserably. The recividism rate under such programs has never been any better then that of simply sending them to jail. Indeed, sending them to jail actually works better, because the sentences are longer and when they get out, if they get out at all, they're generally too old to do something like that again.
It's always better to prevent as well as punish; it may not be possible to identify paedophiles at birth (if such a thing can be genetically determined), but it may be that you can gleam useful information to either detect it whilst developing (i.e. in abused kids), on within adults in sensitive positions (i.e. teachers, volunteers working with kids, etc).
My impression is that paedophilia is some form of mental defect or illness, so ever draconian punishments aren't going to be such an effective deterrent as for other 'conventional' crimes. Not that I'm advocating light sentences for the bastards, of course, I'm just saying I see the point of trying to identify cause and cure at the same time. At the very least, it allows the danger level of released offenders to be better gauged.
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Which is where the problem with "shooting the bastards" comes in. Then they'll try even harder to stay hidden. So it'll be even harder to tell if the babysitter you sent your kids to is a pedophile or not. And of course it'll make people even more reluctant to get any sort of psychological help or support.
Wasn't there some big scandal about Catholic priests being pedophiles? And weren't all sorts of people blaming suppressed feelings because of its doctrine of celibacy? Saying "you can't do this OR ELSE" hasn't worked in the past at correcting behavior too well, I doubt this will be any different.
It'd be less effective at correcting the world's problems and about as rational as rounding up everybody in Africa and all the homosexuals in the world and shooting them to take care of STDs, which is a really ****ed up idea I've heard people toss around before. :doubt:
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a majority of pedophiles live in a self contained fantasy world, weather it be based on star trek or the bible it doesnt make much difference. theese are powerless feeling people who are missing something mentally and the only thing they can do about it is dwell in their imagination and abuse small children. what makes a pedophile is similar to what would make a cult leader or tyrant dictator. something screwed up theese people, find out what it is and destroy it.
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haha he said kiddie fiddlers:lol:
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Not to mention you'd have shot all the people who were accused due to false memory syndrome.
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Screw this planet. First chance I get I'm defecting to the Vasudans. ;7
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Originally posted by Nuke
a majority of pedophiles live in a self contained fantasy world, weather it be based on star trek or the bible it doesnt make much difference. theese are powerless feeling people who are missing something mentally and the only thing they can do about it is dwell in their imagination and abuse small children. what makes a pedophile is similar to what would make a cult leader or tyrant dictator. something screwed up theese people, find out what it is and destroy it.
But killing people for being a pedophile is just going to encourage people to remain silent and stay in their 'fantasy world'. I'm not saying that we should legalize pedophilia or child porn :shaking: but the "solution" isn't to round them up and shoot them like rabid dogs. Especially when they may not actually be doing anything wrong to anybody by simply existing.
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update:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/abuse_disney
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Pedophilia is very often the result of psychological trauma that causes irregular sexual development. A large percentage of pedophiles were the victims of similar abuse as children. Just something to consider.
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BEGONE WITH RATIONAL THOUGHT PROCESS.
"SHOOT THEM" THEY SAY!
Though seriously, my opinion is, in the world of today, if you are an active pedophile, you deserve everything that's coming to you, because you put yourself in that position.