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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Eishtmo on September 23, 2001, 02:41:00 pm
I took me a while (and $1.00), but I finally found a record for Delta Serprentis.

R. A. = 15hr34m48s
Decilination = +10deg32m21s
Color = F0, Blue Main Sequence
Distance = 27 parsecs, 88 lightyears
Might be a Binary system, but I'm having problems understanding the chart at the moment.

For reference, this comes from a book dated 1983.  Should still be accurate, its the Guinness Book of Astronomy, 2nd Edition.

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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Darkage on September 23, 2001, 03:14:00 pm
I found it when i bought FS1 on the starmaps (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

err..but cool you found the real Delta Serpentis (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Sandwich on September 23, 2001, 03:50:00 pm
Here's a picture of the real Delta Serpentis:
 (http://www.carmine.demon.co.uk/astro/Doubles/059.jpg)

Got that from the Double Club ("http://www.carmine.demon.co.uk/astro/Doubles/doubleclub.htm").

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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Alikchi on September 23, 2001, 04:11:00 pm
The real Delta Serpentis is a blurry jpg?
Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Stryke 9 on September 23, 2001, 04:59:00 pm
How many people live on that blurry JPG?
Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Anduril on September 23, 2001, 07:10:00 pm
Looks like a binary blurry JPG to me...
Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Eishtmo on September 23, 2001, 07:32:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by darkage:
err..but cool you found the real Delta Serpentis  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Well, concidering there are only about four stars in FS that I haven't found records for yet, this is a big thing.

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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Shrike on September 23, 2001, 08:34:00 pm
Toldja it existed.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Setekh on September 24, 2001, 08:20:00 am
Neat. So what's next on the list?
Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Eishtmo on September 24, 2001, 10:54:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Shrike:
Toldja it existed.    (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

Too bad you couldn't tell me much else buddy boy.

Anyways, there are only three stars I have yet to find any record of and a bunch I have incomplete records on.

Not Found:

Laramis
Ribos
Ikeya

Incomplete Data:

Dubhe
Gamma Draconis
Episilon Pegasi
Beta Cygni
Alphard
Adhara
Mirfak

The three Greek ones I'll have data on soon, I've just got to look them up.  The rest I'm still looking on.  Any links or info you can provide to the completion of my table would be appretiated.  I'm looking for the info I provided on D.S.  Later.

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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Vertigo1 on September 24, 2001, 09:46:00 pm
Thats not Delta Serpentis!  Thats Carl nuking a star so he can travel to Earth!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: The Avenger on September 25, 2001, 05:50:00 am
(4037) Ikeya
 this was the closet i can find and that on website is classed as a minor star/planet the rest say it is a asteroid found mar 2nd about 30 years ago. hope this can help.
I gotta pick of ikeya aswell
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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Xelion on September 25, 2001, 08:33:00 am
Well considering I'm at my friends place I've decided to post a bit.

Eishtmo heres a few tips about star naming conventions you might find useful along the way. Bayer designations are all the letters in the Greek alphabet from alpha to zeta, you can also use catalogue numbers such as HD, HR, etc. There is also Flamsteed which the uses the Greek Alphabet but in a different way(eg. 16 Beta Cygni).

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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: phreak on September 25, 2001, 03:22:00 pm
Epsilon Pegasai is also known as Enif.
Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Setekh on September 26, 2001, 03:16:00 am
 
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Originally posted by The Avenger:
I gotta pick of ikeya aswell
  (http://www.ikea.co.uk/bilder/logo.gif)  

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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Culloden on October 02, 2001, 01:20:00 pm
Two things

1. The 3 you have nothing about don't exist under those names. I have a catalougre of over 2 million stars infront of me right now and none of them are in there. It is possible that the GTA renamed them to those names when they found them.

2. I'll get you some info on the others. Give me 20 mins to upload it.
Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Culloden on October 02, 2001, 01:52:00 pm
Okay, i've got 210 kb of info on Alphard but nowhere to upload it. Any suggestions?
Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: aldo_14 on October 02, 2001, 01:56:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by sandwich:
Here's a picture of the real Delta Serpentis:
  (http://www.carmine.demon.co.uk/astro/Doubles/059.jpg)  

Got that from the Double Club ("http://www.carmine.demon.co.uk/astro/Doubles/doubleclub.htm").

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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Culloden on October 02, 2001, 02:20:00 pm
Problems uploading. I'll e-mail it to Eishmo instead.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

[This message has been edited by Culloden (edited 10-02-2001).]
Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Setekh on October 02, 2001, 06:01:00 pm
Or me.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Culloden on October 03, 2001, 01:47:00 pm
Well, it's nothing secial, but if you really want it, it should be in youre inbox by the time you read this. That goes for the $5 bill too.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Eishtmo on October 03, 2001, 06:58:00 pm
Thanks Cul.  I'll be posting the basics on all the stars I've found soon (like in 10 min).  Enjoy it.

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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Setekh on October 06, 2001, 03:42:00 am
For those who haven't seen it yet:

 (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/alphard.jpg)
Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Culloden on October 06, 2001, 10:12:00 am
Thanks for posting that Setekh.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: penguin on October 06, 2001, 11:47:00 pm
Any of the Greek ones are in the named constellation, the letter is the relative magnitude within the constellation.  So Delta Serpentis is the fourth-brightest star (as seen from Earth) in the constellation Serpens; Gamma Draconis is the 3rd brightest in Draco; Alpha Centauri is the brightest one in Centaurus, etc.

A lot of these have other names as someone else pointed out: Epsilon Pegasi = Enif; Alpha Cygni = Deneb, etc.

Alphard is Alpha Hydrae.

Mirfak is Alpha Persei (or whatever the genitive of "Perseus" is, I've forgotton all my Latin)

Dubhe is Alpha Ursa Major (won't even try the Latin on this one)

Adhara is Epsilon Canis Major (ditto)

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Ikeya seems to be a comet... did  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/v.gif) mess up?  Unless you count the one at White Marsh Mall (sorry, that bad joke's been made already)

Ribos apears to be from an old "Doctor Who" episode (this is not a joke).

.... and all references to Laramis that I could find via google.com pointed to FS forums  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Setekh on October 07, 2001, 02:24:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Culloden:
Thanks for posting that Setekh.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Not a problem dude - just out of curiosity, where did you get all of it? I mean, that program - what is it, exactly?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

 
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Originally posted by penguin:
.... and all references to Laramis that I could find via google.com pointed to FS forums  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)! Oh and hey, welcome to HLP, penguin! Enjoy your stay  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Culloden on October 07, 2001, 09:20:00 am
It's from a program called Red Shift 4, which combines a planetarium, astronomy dictionary and picture gallery all in one.

The dictionary and picture gallery isn't anything you couldn't find online, but the planetarium is quite unique. If I remember correctly, it was the first program to make use of the full Tycho 2 Catalouge and has records for apx 18 million stars down to magnitude 20, aswell as 70,000 galaxies, 1,700 comets and 15,000 asteroids.

It's very good value for money. I got mine for £20 and by now it's down to £10 or $7.

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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Culloden on October 07, 2001, 09:56:00 am
 
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Originally posted by penguin:
Dubhe is Alpha Ursa Major (won't even try the Latin on this one)

Don't quote me on the spelling, but it's something along the lines of Alpha Ursae Majoris.
Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Setekh on October 08, 2001, 02:55:00 am
Looks like a heck of a lot of info there. I'll see if I can find it anywhere around here...
Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Scorpius on October 12, 2001, 08:55:00 pm
I found something on Ikeya. I Think Ikeya is a comet (full name is Ikeya-Seki) But this is the closest I could find. Take a look:
 http://www.noao.edu/image_gallery/html/im0304.html ("http://www.noao.edu/image_gallery/html/im0304.html")
Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Boct1584 on October 23, 2001, 04:59:00 pm
Sweet! I didn't know that Delta Serpentis really existed!

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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: VR7 on October 23, 2001, 09:27:00 pm
I dare somebody to look for a Knossos portal in Gamma Draconis  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Fulgrymm on October 24, 2001, 07:19:00 am
I never got to do anything this interesting when I was at Uni, doing my Astrophysics degree.
 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)
Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Eishtmo on October 24, 2001, 10:54:00 am
For those interested, a more or less complete list of the Stars of Freespace was posted here a couple of weeks ago.  Go back a page or two and you might find it.

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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: ##UnknownPlayer## on October 27, 2001, 04:51:00 am
Ikeya does exist as a star. I can't remember its other name, but there my school once had this skydome thing around which was basically a picture of the night sky on the inside of a dark dome (it was pretty cool). The guy running it was pointing at stars, and at one stage pointed out Ikeya, which appears to be its secondary name. So keep looking! It is out there!

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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Labcoatguy on October 29, 2001, 11:33:00 pm
Hey, new guy here. If I recall correctly, Laramis is/was the name of the company that made the Super Soaker. I think this may be a [V] injoke, because remember that the first time that it was mentioned was when they created the Flail.
Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Su-tehp on October 30, 2001, 04:15:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Eishtmo:
Anyways, there are only three stars I have yet to find any record of and a bunch I have incomplete records on.

Not Found:

Laramis
Ribos
Ikeya

Incomplete Data:

Dubhe
Gamma Draconis
Episilon Pegasi
Beta Cygni
Alphard
Adhara
Mirfak

The three Greek ones I'll have data on soon, I've just got to look them up.  The rest I'm still looking on.  Any links or info you can provide to the completion of my table would be appretiated.  I'm looking for the info I provided on D.S.  Later.

About Mirfak: I noticed on some of the FS2 command briefing cutscenes that it is actually spelled "Mirfax" with an "x", rather than a "k".

In your starcharts all of you have found, is its official spelling with the "k" or the "x"?

Did [V] make another error here?

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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: ZylonBane on October 30, 2001, 06:27:00 pm
It's Mirfak with a K. That had me concerned for a while because I was making a mission set there.

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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Eishtmo on October 30, 2001, 11:19:00 pm
Yeah, its a 'k.'  But as I said, a thead called "Stars of Freespace" is somewhere on this very forum, and it has just about all of the info you could want or need.

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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Vertigo1 on October 31, 2001, 11:26:00 pm
Eishmo: here's something you might be interested in.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
 http://www.relex.ru/~zalex/main.htm ("http://www.relex.ru/~zalex/main.htm")  - StarCalc.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)  Its 100% free.

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Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Culloden on November 01, 2001, 01:45:00 pm
I don't know about you, but I don't find 404's very interesting.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: Delta Serprentis Found!!
Post by: Vertigo1 on November 01, 2001, 09:43:00 pm
Eh?  Works for me.

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