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Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: NeoHunter on June 22, 2001, 08:10:00 am
I know this is SUPER off topic but what the hell. Its the Hard Light section, not the FreeSpace forums. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

This topic is about the new game from Westwood Studios called Emperor: Battle for Dune. I thought why not start a small topic about the game for people here who play it.

To start it off, I would like to bring to your attention the different House and sub Houses.

Which of the three Houses is your favourite? Is it the noble Atreides, the insidious Ordos or the evil Harkonnen? Which of the sub Houses are your favourite? House of Ix, House Teilaxu(sp?), the Sardaukar, the Fremen?

For me, I prefer the Atreides. Lots of firepower to throw at the enemy. Especially the Atreides Minotarus. Long range and high damage.

As for sub Houses, I prefer having the Sardaukar and the Fremen.



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Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: NeoHunter on June 23, 2001, 10:53:00 pm
*BUMP*

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Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: Shrike on June 23, 2001, 11:39:00 pm
Haven't played it yet.
Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: Setekh on June 24, 2001, 01:47:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Shrike:
Haven't played it yet.

Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: Apothess on June 24, 2001, 04:53:00 am
Harkonnen and Sardaukar are my fav, Especially the Devasator!!
Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: IceFire on June 24, 2001, 03:21:00 pm
Atredies, Fremen and either the Ix or the Sardukar.

In the last Atredies mission, I cleaned out half the enemy installations using a Sardukar and Fremen hit team.  The Fremen would nail any infantry taking them completely by surprise, lure them back to the Sardukar which would then deal with vehicles, aircraft, and whatever else was thrown around, and then proceed on.

I kinda like the Ordos as well, although not so much as the Atredies.

Harkonen I dislike so far.
Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: DragonClaw on June 24, 2001, 03:23:00 pm
 
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Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: Sandwich on June 24, 2001, 04:33:00 pm
ARRGGHHHH!! I didn't even know the game was out yet.... I hate the delay that translating the manuals into Hebrew incurs here...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)

Next you'll be telling me that C&C: Renegade is out too, right? :-/

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Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: NeoHunter on June 25, 2001, 11:21:00 pm
Hehehe......so far, I'm 70 percent deep in Ordos territory. Haven't touched the Harkonnen yet. I hate the Ordos because of their Kobra Tanks.

I still prefer the Sardaukar and Fremen combination. But never use the Sardaukar Elites to fight the shielded Ordos tanks. Both of them get blown up. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

By the way, does anybody know how to return veteran units to their respective barracks or factories?

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Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: NeoHunter on June 25, 2001, 11:32:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Apothess:
Harkonnen and Sardaukar are my fav, Especially the Devasator!!

Harkonnen?! I find that the Harkonnen have been weaken some what. Their Inkvine Catapult does not do much damage. In my opinion, they only good Harkonnen units are the Flame Tank and their airborne unit. Forgot what its called.

The Devastator is too slow. Lots of firepower but far too slow for my tastes. If you want speed and firepower, I rather go with the Atreides Minotaurus. Four long range cannons with a nice splash damage.

As for the Sardaukar, they're the best!!! Next to the Fremen of course. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)



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Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: Apothess on June 26, 2001, 12:10:00 pm
The Harkonnen may have been weakend but they're still Evil, i like going the bad guys its more fun, i have also taken the role of an evil god in Black & White, now that is classic game.
Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: Snipes on June 26, 2001, 12:12:00 pm
Yes, it is fun to be evil, no?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: Sandwich on June 26, 2001, 07:21:00 pm
Hmmm... so tell me before I go spend money on the game when it DOES come out here, how does it compare to, say, Total Annihilation for it's time? (I know, hard to beat no matter WHAT time, but that's why I'm asking...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif) )

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Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: Fineus on June 27, 2001, 02:16:00 am
IMO after Total Annihilation the only two good RTS games have been Warzone 2100, and to a much much larger extent: Homeworld. All of Westwoods offerings (not counting Battle for Dune, haven't played it yet) have been pretty much the same, and whilst some say "why change a good thing?" you can tell that little effort has been put into really advancing the genre. I'll try the demo of Dune, as its Westwoods first spinny-rotaty™ 3D accelerated offering - I just hope they get back into the act of advancing a slightly stale genre.

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Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: Apothess on June 27, 2001, 12:35:00 pm
If any of you have read the PC Zone review of battle for dune it is spot on, the engine is poor very little detail on the units, its your bog standard stragey game, cheesy FMV. On the plus side, Brillant music, multiplayer, sub houses. This game could have been alot better and it felt rushed to me, well thats my opinion. just hope Warcraft3 blizzards 1st 3d strat game isn't crap.
Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: NeoHunter on June 28, 2001, 04:45:00 am
   
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Originally posted by NeoHunter:
By the way, does anybody know how to return veteran units to their respective barracks or factories?

Nobody answered this question. Hmm. Is it just a rumor then?

Here's a map of my Atreides progress. Hehehe   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

  (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/excellence/AtreidesMap.jpg)  


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Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: Sandwich on June 28, 2001, 06:13:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Thunder:
IMO after Total Annihilation the only two good RTS games have been Warzone 2100, and to a much much larger extent: Homeworld. All of Westwoods offerings (not counting Battle for Dune, haven't played it yet) have been pretty much the same, and whilst some say "why change a good thing?" you can tell that little effort has been put into really advancing the genre. I'll try the demo of Dune, as its Westwoods first spinny-rotaty™ 3D accelerated offering - I just hope they get back into the act of advancing a slightly stale genre.



I couldn't agree with you more - with the slight exception of WarZone 2100 maybe. I started to play it and got sidetracked by something else... I think maybe FS2...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

But have you tried Earth 2150? It's quite excellent - the 3d unit animations are out of this world.


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Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: Nico on June 28, 2001, 06:30:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Apothess:
just hope Warcraft3 blizzards 1st 3d strat game isn't crap.

Rhaaa! I've seen it running  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
believe me, it's not crap, it's so beautifull you can't believe it (ok, like everything shown at the E3 this year...).
I was a weswood fan, but I bet WIII will rule.



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Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: NeoHunter on June 29, 2001, 01:27:00 am
I saw the screenshots for Warcraft 3. They are not bad. But a lot of ny friends hope if Blizzard Entertaiment does Starcraft 2, they don't do it in 3D.

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Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: Apothess on June 29, 2001, 12:34:00 pm
Just saw the E3 preview of War3 and jesus those FMV's are beautyfull, there the best ones i've seen for a PC game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why NeoHunter do you want starcraft2 if its been made to be 2D?
Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: NeoHunter on June 30, 2001, 04:41:00 am
Because if Starcraft 2 were to be made into a 3D game, it would not really be that nice ingame. Also, the system requirements to will jump to very high specifications. Many of us will have to upgrade just to play the game.

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Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: Raven2001 on July 03, 2001, 01:51:00 pm
Battle for Dune is out already!!!! I gotta get it!! Seeya guys!!

I love the Dune series, and I mean all of them, from Cryo's dune to the Battle for dune, altough Dune 2000 wasn't what I was expecting....

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Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: Akira on July 03, 2001, 08:16:00 pm
I have Emperor, but haven't played it much, what do you get when u ally yourself with each house? i know if u ally with sardaukar and fremen u get sardaukar and fremen trops, how about the Bene Tleilaxu? and Ix? i'd expect Ix u'd get something advanced since well as the Guild 3rd stage navigator put it "Many machines on IX, New machines, better than those on Richesse."

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Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: NeoHunter on July 04, 2001, 03:33:00 am
Here's a list of what each sub house gives you:

Sardaukar:
Sardaukar Troopers(Very powerful machine guns)
Sardaukar Elites(Laser guns and knife)

Fremen:
Fremen Warriors(Sniper Rifles)
Fremen Fedaykin(Wielding Module?)

House IX:
IX Infiltrator(Stealth Mine)
IX Projector(Who says holograms can't kill?) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)



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Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: Akira on July 05, 2001, 03:53:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by NeoHunter:
Here's a list of what each sub house gives you:

Sardaukar:
Sardaukar Troopers(Very powerful machine guns)
Sardaukar Elites(Laser guns and knife)

Fremen:
Fremen Warriors(Sniper Rifles)
Fremen Fedaykin(Wielding Module?)

House IX:
IX Infiltrator(Stealth Mine)
IX Projector(Who says holograms can't kill?)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)



and Bene Tleilaxu give you those things that infest your vehicles and those mutants that convert your troopers to the enemy mutants.

and the fremen Fedaykin have Wierding Modules not welding modules.

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Title: Super OT - Emperor: Battle For Dune
Post by: NeoHunter on July 06, 2001, 06:14:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Akira:

and Bene Tleilaxu give you those things that infest your vehicles and those mutants that convert your troopers to the enemy mutants.

and the fremen Fedaykin have Wierding Modules not welding modules.


Oops! Wrong spelling then. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) I also forgot to add that the Fedaykin are capable of calling and ridnig Sandworms.

Those mutants are Contaminators. Leeches don't infest your vehicles. They shoot some leech on to your vehicles and cause them to change into additional Leeches.


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