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Title: Nintendo Revolution pics.
Post by: Rictor on May 17, 2005, 10:57:20 am
(http://ve3dmedia.ign.com/ve3d/image/article/615/615081/nintendo-revolution-hi-res-system-shots-20050517084234572.jpg)
(http://ve3dmedia.ign.com/ve3d/image/article/615/615081/nintendo-revolution-hi-res-system-shots-20050517084219574.jpg)
(http://ve3dmedia.ign.com/ve3d/image/article/615/615081/nintendo-revolution-hi-res-system-shots-20050517084227057.jpg)

Looks...bland. It looks like a router.
Title: Nintendo Revolution pics.
Post by: neo_hermes on May 17, 2005, 10:56:35 am
:wtf:

Edit: Timetravel.
Title: Nintendo Revolution pics.
Post by: neo_hermes on May 17, 2005, 11:00:04 am
as long as it play's games i don't think people will care.
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Post by: Kamikaze on May 17, 2005, 11:05:26 am
Out of the three consoles this one looks the best.

I really like the Gamecube for parties because of its size and games; it looks like the revolution will continue that.


Though my sense of aesthetics may be suspect. I really like the IBM Thinkpad designs... most people don't seem to...
Title: Nintendo Revolution pics.
Post by: aldo_14 on May 17, 2005, 11:07:49 am
Doesn't look very Nintendo-y, but it's that small I couldn't care.  It's an ickle box.... hella useful for taking over to other peoples houses.
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Post by: Flipside on May 17, 2005, 12:30:46 pm
It'll have Zelda and Mario on it.... nuff said ;)
Title: Nintendo Revolution pics.
Post by: Rictor on May 17, 2005, 12:33:35 pm
Erm, new Zelda game (for the GC) over yonder ("http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/614/614296p1.html").
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Post by: Nuke on May 17, 2005, 12:52:54 pm
they better not coe out with a stupid controller design this time :D
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Post by: WeatherOp on May 17, 2005, 03:04:40 pm
Yeah, it's the best looking of the PS3 or X-box 360, but still don't look as good as the gamecube, but on the other hand, it's so small :eek2: , the only problem I don't like so far is, that it don't use the little disks, tohse are cool.:D
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Post by: achtung on May 17, 2005, 04:14:43 pm
I wonder how mario will look on that?:D
Title: Nintendo Revolution pics.
Post by: aldo_14 on May 17, 2005, 04:33:37 pm
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Originally posted by WeatherOp
Yeah, it's the best looking of the PS3 or X-box 360, but still don't look as good as the gamecube, but on the other hand, it's so small :eek2: , the only problem I don't like so far is, that it don't use the little disks, tohse are cool.:D


Well, it sort of does (GC games will run on it); apparently there's some sort of arrangement planned that'll allow Rev owners to download & play SNES & NES (maybe also N64) games, but I'm not sure of the details of it.
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Post by: Taristin on May 17, 2005, 05:07:28 pm
More wireless controllers... :sigh:
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Post by: kode on May 17, 2005, 05:18:50 pm
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Originally posted by Raa
More wireless controllers... :sigh:


the wavebirds are actually really good, so it's evident nintendo can make good wireless controllars.
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Post by: Taristin on May 17, 2005, 05:48:43 pm
I just don't like the idea of my gaming being reliant on me remembering to recharge the stupid thing every night. Because I barely remember to charge my cell phone.

That said, I looove the minimalistic look of the Nintendo system. But I'll probably be springing for the 360, and then in a few more years, the ps3...
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Post by: Ransom on May 17, 2005, 05:54:09 pm
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Originally posted by Raa
I just don't like the idea of my gaming being reliant on me remembering to recharge the stupid thing every night. Because I barely remember to charge my cell phone.

The Wavebird runs on batteries. It lasts quite a while.
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Post by: Deepblue on May 17, 2005, 06:09:24 pm
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Revolution ends up dominating the Japanese market just because the PS3 is a monster and the Xbox360 is only a little smaller.
Title: Nintendo Revolution pics.
Post by: aldo_14 on May 17, 2005, 06:24:24 pm
Somehow, I doubt the physical size of the console will determine sales in Japan of all places; the X-box's abject failure in Japan wasn;t because it was big, it was because it didn't have all that many games that'd appeal to the Japanese customer.
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Post by: WeatherOp on May 17, 2005, 06:24:49 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14


Well, it sort of does (GC games will run on it); apparently there's some sort of arrangement planned that'll allow Rev owners to download & play SNES & NES (maybe also N64) games, but I'm not sure of the details of it.



That would be awesome!!:D  I hate having to change to my SNES to play Super Metroid and Super Mario World, and then still play my NES games, and then play Mario 64. If that is the case then I'll have to pick this console up.
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Post by: Deepblue on May 17, 2005, 06:26:04 pm
It was that and because it was big.

The games issue might take a turn this time... I think Msoft has been working harder on getting developers than anything else for the Xbox360.
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Post by: EtherShock on May 17, 2005, 06:32:20 pm
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Originally posted by WeatherOp

That would be awesome!!:D  I hate having to change to my SNES to play Super Metroid and Super Mario World, and then still play my NES games, and then play Mario 64. If that is the case then I'll have to pick this console up.

This is probably just their way of fighting off emulation.
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Post by: Setekh on May 17, 2005, 08:46:48 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Doesn't look very Nintendo-y, but it's that small I couldn't care.  It's an ickle box.... hella useful for taking over to other peoples houses.


Just what I was going to say, on both counts. Especially about taking it to other people's houses... popping the Xbox into its carry bag with a couple of controllers will just about break anyone's neck if you carry it for more than half an hour.
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Post by: Taristin on May 17, 2005, 08:53:37 pm
Bah!  No it won't. You've obviously never had to carry 6 700 pg textbooks throughout elementary school. :p
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Post by: Setekh on May 17, 2005, 08:55:58 pm
Well, I'm exagerrating a little. ;) But still, the current Xbox is way heavier than its competitors at the moment. I'm interested to see how heavy the 360 is, given its much more compact form factor.
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Post by: Taristin on May 17, 2005, 08:59:08 pm
That's because the XB is currently a PC with an emulator for an OS... basically.
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Post by: EtherShock on May 17, 2005, 10:30:45 pm
Nintendo is kind of like Apple. They do their own little thing, very innovative, and always different from the rest.
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Post by: adwight on May 17, 2005, 10:50:52 pm
Here's a link (http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/8278/Nintendo-Unveils-Revolution/) to the announcement of the Revolution.  You can get all of the old SNES and NES games on it, this already kicks PS3's and 360's ass.  Dear god I want one NOW.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on May 17, 2005, 10:58:45 pm
Damn them. I had settled on a single next-gen console, then they had to do this. They really want to make me indecisive, don't they?
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Post by: Drew on May 17, 2005, 11:46:59 pm
they need to give us better details about netgaming on the system, and how it will compete graphically with the other systems.  and they still seem content releasing on the backs of old characters, nothing really new and exciting. like if they told me SSB was releasing with netplay, that would be exciting
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Post by: kode on May 18, 2005, 01:36:40 am
well, drew, that's what I've heard. about super smash brothers and netplay, that is.
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Post by: Kamikaze on May 18, 2005, 01:43:06 am
Goddamn. I can't really decide if I want a PS3 or Revolution more. I may have to get both. :p

Actually, a major tipping factor in this would be if either company suddenly became wise and benevolent and got rid of the really stupid region control junk. If I have to purchase a PS3 from Japan to play all my games I'll be unhappy.

Speaking of which, what do you suppose they'll do with that SNES game plan and games never released in the USA? Do you suppose US gamers will finally be able to play games like Romancing Saga 3 or Seiken Densetsu 3 or do you suppose they'll be *****y about regions?
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Post by: Drew on May 18, 2005, 01:59:53 am
the whole download a 64 game will be pretty cool.  my freinds still own a 64 and we still play it regularly
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Post by: Mongoose on May 18, 2005, 02:00:06 am
Holy crap, adwight; Nintendo wins in my book.  This is the first news about these new consoles that's actually gotten me excited. :D
Title: Nintendo Revolution pics.
Post by: Rictor on May 18, 2005, 04:54:21 am
(http://ve3dmedia.ign.com/ve3d/image/article/615/615669/newer-better-nintendo-revolution-pics-20050517085520971.jpg)
(http://ve3dmedia.ign.com/ve3d/image/article/615/615669/newer-better-nintendo-revolution-pics-20050517085524830.jpg)
Title: Nintendo Revolution pics.
Post by: Grug on May 18, 2005, 05:07:46 am
http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/default.asp?subsectionid=1587&articleid=35825&pagetypeid=2

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As for the console's specs, Nintendo is claiming that Revolution is around two to three times more powerful than Gamecube. While Ninty has been saying for some time that it wasn't going to place a focus on ever-more-powerful hardware, it's interesting to note that Xbox 360 is said to be 10 to 13 times more powerful than Xbox, while PS3 is, according to Sony, a whopping 35 times more powerful than PS2.


By the sounds, it will just be an upgraded GC. o_O

I fail to see how they are going to contend graphically with the Xbox and PS3...
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Post by: aldo_14 on May 18, 2005, 05:26:43 am
I don't they're interested in getting into a graphical pissing match, but rather trying to make accessible games and widen their audience accordingly.
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Post by: Grug on May 18, 2005, 05:35:55 am
It would seem so. I hope they make the games to survive on then.

I personally like the eye candy coupled with the gameplay. The most thing I want to see though is some MMO games.

Otherwise I might end up sticking with the PC for my online games...
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Post by: Mefustae on May 18, 2005, 05:40:11 am
I doubt the Graphics Gap is going to be THAT big, i mean, just take a glance at the Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess trailer - hot DAMN that game looks great - you'll see that the Graphics are fine as they are on the 'Cube, so i won't really mind if the Revolution isn't as good graphically as the '360 and the PS3. Also, you simply CANNOT beat the games Nintendo owns, as in the Zelda Series, Mario, and their already profitable bond with Capcom - Resident Evil 5 anyone? :D
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Post by: Grug on May 18, 2005, 05:44:08 am
I was always tempted to get a Cube for Smash Bros, Zelda and Pikmin (which looks hilarious).

I'm quite content with my Xbox for now though. I've been looking into MMORPG's for the PC lately. They all cost so damn much though. o_O

I picked up Splinter Cell: Chaos theory other day, and am having much fun with it. :)
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Post by: Andreas on May 18, 2005, 07:44:55 am
I must say that I am deeply dissapointed with all the new console designs. Dreamcast is still one sexy beast compared to these, umm...modems? I wonder if they are all designed by the same guy? ;) Oh well, the only thing that really matters to me is what games they are gonna release for them. That said, I'm planning of getting Revolution, especially if it can play old games.
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Post by: Taristin on May 18, 2005, 07:51:04 am
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Originally posted by Grug

I'm quite content with my Xbox for now though. I've been looking into MMORPG's for the PC lately. They all cost so damn much though. o_O
 


Play Anrarchy Online! :D Free to DL and play until Jan 2006!
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Post by: Grey Wolf on May 18, 2005, 02:38:13 pm
Or Guild Wars. $50 to buy, but no monthly fees. Only reason I bought it...
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Post by: adwight on May 18, 2005, 03:38:18 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14
I don't they're interested in getting into a graphical pissing match, but rather trying to make accessible games and widen their audience accordingly.


I don't think that the graphics for games can get much better, and personally games really wouldn't be games if the graphics were too realistic.  I don't really want my games having everyone look realistic.
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Post by: Ransom on May 18, 2005, 03:49:14 pm
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Originally posted by adwight
I don't really want my games having everyone look realistic.

Yeah. I liked it better when games had graphical styles n stuff. Hopefully this whole realism 'fad' will go away once they actually achieve it (well, at least something close to it).
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Post by: DaBrain on May 18, 2005, 03:53:30 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14


Well, it sort of does (GC games will run on it); apparently there's some sort of arrangement planned that'll allow Rev owners to download & play SNES & NES (maybe also N64) games, but I'm not sure of the details of it.



:eek2:  GREAT!
 
I like the design, but I even more like this news about SNES games. I'm a big fan. But importing some games that never came to europe is damn expensive. This might be the solution. :drevil:
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Post by: Grey Wolf on May 18, 2005, 04:42:46 pm
Wonder how much they're actually going to charge for them, and how well they'll adapt them, or if it'll just be better to stick with emulation.
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Post by: Deepblue on May 18, 2005, 05:13:41 pm
BTW, Xbox Live will have something like this in Live Arcade. Basically your standard free online games.
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Post by: aldo_14 on May 18, 2005, 05:20:29 pm
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Originally posted by Deepblue
BTW, Xbox Live will have something like this in Live Arcade. Basically your standard free online games.


:rolleyes: :wtf: :sigh:

Can you make a single bloody post without churning out an Xbox advert, please?  It's starting to get on my tits.

FYI, Live Arcade charges $10-20 (http://money.cnn.com/2004/10/13/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/index.htm) for downloading versions of old arcade games like Galaga and Dig Dug.  

Whereas we're talking the entire back catalogue - at the least - of the worlds best 1st party developer over the history of console gaming.
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Post by: WeatherOp on May 18, 2005, 05:37:17 pm
Nintendo had better have SMRPG for me to get.:D
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Post by: Deepblue on May 18, 2005, 05:45:26 pm
Of course, I was going to make that point in my post but I couldn't find a way to phrase it at the time. No need to be hostile. All in all, the Revolution sounds like it could be very attractive.
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Post by: Drew on May 18, 2005, 06:03:12 pm
at least N learned from their lack of netplay on the GC and now its gonna be hard for Sony and microsoft to compete agains the free netplay service by Nintendo, specialy when xbox live is such the major profite  boosting asset it is.
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Post by: Turnsky on May 18, 2005, 11:09:57 pm
what about the controllers?
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Post by: Deepblue on May 19, 2005, 05:16:47 pm
You'll be forced to buy DS's... :D
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Post by: aldo_14 on May 19, 2005, 05:26:46 pm
Probably not a bad thing if you get free phone calls (Nintendo are making a VOIP program for the Ds to use the free wireless; don't know if it'll cover just DS or all phone numbers, but is strill a pretty cool idea).

I've heard rumours that the Revolution controllers are squeezy, have gyroscopes, and/or have a touch sensitive LED rather than predefined buttons.
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Post by: Triple Ace on May 19, 2005, 06:21:55 pm
Im gonna say this once, PC OWNS ALL! I do like console games, but we all know which is better.
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Post by: Deepblue on May 19, 2005, 08:12:01 pm
Busted!!!

...

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000270043981/

...

Ouch...
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Post by: achtung on May 19, 2005, 08:24:30 pm
You must remember it is just a prototype.  And they said it was empty at the E3 presentation.
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Post by: Ransom on May 19, 2005, 08:25:13 pm
Read the comments.

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Originally posted by klinko
Nintentdo stated a few days ago that it was empty.


It's not really surprising it doesn't work, it's a prototype.

Edit: Yeah, what Swantz said.

Also,
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Originally posted by swarmster
The Xboxes on display were empty boxes, too. The games were running on Apple's G5s.
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Post by: Deepblue on May 19, 2005, 08:36:24 pm
Not entirely true. The xboxes were not empty, however, they were running the games on the Alpha dev kits.
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Post by: Kamikaze on May 19, 2005, 09:30:13 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14

I've heard rumours that the Revolution controllers are squeezy, have gyroscopes, and/or have a touch sensitive LED rather than predefined buttons.


I really hope they don't do non-button controls. I don't think I could play games without the feedback from mechanical buttons. :|

By the way, I've heard that Nintendo historically doesn't show much of their stuff at E3 and saves it for the TGS. So don't get too disappointed at them.
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Post by: kode on May 20, 2005, 05:05:09 am
nintendo at e3 is usually really really good. take last year as an example. it's entirely possible they're saving a lot of gunpowder for tgs, though. they'd almost have to ;)
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Post by: aldo_14 on May 20, 2005, 05:15:08 am
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Originally posted by Deepblue
Busted!!!

...

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000270043981/

...

Ouch...


Not exactly news; they did say it was a prototype design and even asked the audience for opinions on it (which is somewhat bizarre).

Did any of the manufacturers bring a working console, anyways?  MS brought devkits, and I'd expect Sony to have done the same.

@Kami; yeah, I'm worried about a lack of tactile feedback myself.  Of course, it's possible they'll have that and a touchpad or something...
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Post by: Deepblue on May 20, 2005, 05:05:03 pm
MS had working consoles there, they just didn't use them as it is still not completely finalized (more specifically, the disk drive).
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Post by: aldo_14 on May 20, 2005, 05:07:47 pm
Soooooo........... they had the final product all ready, but didn't want anyone to see it because.....it wasn't finished?!
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Post by: Deepblue on May 20, 2005, 05:31:50 pm
Final product is not the same thing as working. And they did show it. :wtf:
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Post by: aldo_14 on May 20, 2005, 05:38:21 pm
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Originally posted by Deepblue
Final product is not the same thing as working. And they did show it. :wtf:


So a final product doesn't necessarily have to work?  That's a curiously MS-esque view.

 (because if they did have a working product, they wouldn't need to use devkits to run the demos, would they?)
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Post by: Deepblue on May 20, 2005, 05:46:09 pm
Gah, I know they have versions that work that are not dev kits (not necesarily at E3)... Let's just leave it at that.