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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Dark RevenantX on May 20, 2005, 07:46:29 pm
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I have started a Freespace 2 card game, and it can't be fully completed without your help. I need images for some of my cards, so that while you play, you won't have a colored card with a black square near the top with the words "NO IMAGE" painted in a very ugly fashion where the picture should be. Luckily, I have all the ship images I need, so all I need are the weapons, money, and accessory pictures. If you want to help, just give me a PM and I will give you more detail.
Here is the finished product for all six card types!
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-5/1013395/TheStuff.jpg)
Suggestions are welcome!
Go to the play testing thread if you want to get it now!
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Sweet work. Um sorry cant help tho.
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Newsified. I hope you get some help there. :yes:
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Thanks, Setekh!
Also, I will be releasing the cards in stages. I will send out the Terran Deck first, then the Vasudan deck, and finally the Shivan deck.
Just for knowledge, the green cards are terran ships, the yellow cards are vasudan ships, and the red cards... you can figure that out by yourself! The orange cards are add-on weapons, and the blue cards are non-weapon add-ons. The purpleish cards are the cards that do not fit into any other category.
The cards are designed for college students. All that is required is a small stack of heavy paper. The front goes on first, and then you put the pages back in order, with the front showing up. Flip the pages over, print the backs, and you have cool cards that you can't see through.
Also, the back of the cards are rather plain. The GTVA Logo with the words "FREESPACE 2 (two lines) CARD GAME". I will need a name for this card game.
Edit: Read the news article
Luckily, I am not going to add cargo containers. The hp counters don't count that low. Also, you can't just have a single Myrmidon. It is either a light/medium/heavy fighter/bomber wing. The wings will be mixed according to what type of wing it is. A light fighter wing would include fast ships like the Perseus, a medium would have ships like the Myrmidon, and the heavy wings with Erineyes and the like.
I have the ship images, but nothing else.
The best images for now are screenshots of virtually every capship beam and aaa beam, plus the standard flak, fusion mortar, vasudan flux, shivan super laser, and shivan megafunk. Plus, I need three images of increasingly larger amounts of ammunition.
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didnt an0n come up with this a while back?
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An0n's version has 2 problems.
1. I don't really like how it plays.
2. You can't download it anymore.
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I don't have the time to help, but wouldn't it be cooler to have in game shots of the ships instead of tech room images? Like a Fenris firing its beams with a nebula in the background or something
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I think you could fill up the "no image" spaces without too much trouble. Get an ingame shot of a nice slashing beam and crop it into that space. Also, I'm willing to bet there's a render artist out there that could whip up a nice looking Shivan reactor for you (or at least, what they think a Shivan reactor looks like), and that could be cool too. Great work! :nod: :yes:
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I am on a mac that can't run fs2. I am unable to make images, so I will need someone else to do so. The images I have are from a fs2 site.
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Hey Dark i have the full bag of tools for this kind of work. Gim'me a list of images you need and i will get you all the caps you need even some ingame stuff if you'd like.
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Thanks bunches, man! I'l send you a PM with my email+details.
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Fascinating.
Not my bag, really, but still.
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I used to play the Star Trek card game on occasion, and there used to be event cards. Are you gonna have something like "Alpha 1 has transferred to your destroyer. Destroy the enemy capital ship of your choice."?
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funny thing is i started a similar card game not too long ago (well almost 4 yrs ago) based on FS2, i had made the lisitings for HP, weapons, specials, trap cards, special mission cards, SOC cards etc, but never got around to finishing it...
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This game will be simpleish. The spotlight is on the battles of the ships. Weather you are quickly sending out many cruisers in desparation, or saving up for a supercap for a damaging assault, your objective will be to destroy the enemy ships, and invade the other player's "planet". Eventually, one player will be unable to send out a ship to soak up some damage, and the enemy will attack the planet. The planet's defenses have a lot of HP, but everything is a sure hit. All ships have a chance to be missed by an attack. Even the Sathanas has a small chance to be missed. The game ends when one player loses all his/her planet's hp.
Battles are not completely hack and slash. Energy and Ammunition restrictions make it so that you have to save up your big guns for more dangerous targets. The accuracy of the weapon is very important. Unlike projectile weapons, beams can partially hit targets. Of 6 damage, 3 can hit and 3 can miss. Projectile weapons are binary. It's either a full hit or a full miss. Beams are strong. A lot of damage and very accurate. The only thing stopping you from killing everyone with them is the energy and time consumption. Many beams require you to wait a turn or two before firing again. Energy is important, too. If you fire all your beams, your energy is completely depleted unless your reactor was upgraded. Fighters are hard to hit, so it is a good idea to use your AAA beams on them, as they have an increased chance of blowing a subsystem.
Critical hits, a trait I sorta picked up from one of my games, are fate deciding. Your cargo bay could be blown, removing free space. If you can't accomidate for the lost space, you lose some weapons or accessories. Your fighter bay could be hit, meaning that the limited free fighter launching ability could be limited even further.
There is much more, but I don't want to spoil you.:p
There are 6 rarity levels, which are shown on the top-right. 1 is Common, 2 is Uncommon, 3 is Semi-Rare, 4 is Rare, 5 is Super Rare, and 6... is more or less one of a kind.
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Originally posted by Trivial Psychic
I used to play the Star Trek card game on occasion, and there used to be event cards. Are you gonna have something like "Alpha 1 has transferred to your destroyer. Destroy the enemy capital ship of your choice."?
I still play it, and Magic as well.
STCCG never had an event that outright destroyed a ship, and I believe this game shouldn't either... it seems horribly unbalanced.
I'd be willing to help with design, both graphical and gameplay. PM me if interested.
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Normally, I would accept your help. However, I wish to do all the graphical and gameplay design myself. It wouldn't by my card game if it was made by someone else! Get what I mean?
Card games have 2 aspects. Graphics and Gameplay. If both are done by the same person, that person is the main creator of the game.
A subtle watermarked GTVA logo goes very well on the cards.
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****, kids, I'll play this. I don't know if I can help or not, though... let me know, and I'll see if I can do anything for you. I know at least one person I can test the game with, at the very least.
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Another Person on my playtest list...
33 types of cards is a lot! I think the Terran deck will be split into three. Small, medium, and large. The small deck has the advantage of having what you want pretty quickly, while the large deck has the advantage of being able to replace most things that are destroyed.
My goal is at least 50 cards for this deck, and at least 150 cards for all the races combined.
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I am going to need someone to host the files once they are finished. If anyone can do this, give me a PM.
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More images.
That home planet card is what you want to keep alive.
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Agh, post #4 in a row.
I've been a busy bee. All fiftey cards for the Terran deck are done, and about 110 cards will be used per player. The download will contain sheets with different rarities of cards. In total, 221 cards will be printed. 63 are purple, 73 are green, 42 are orange, and 43 are blue. With the large variety of cards, you should be kept happy for a while.
Some of the cards are for all races. The blue and purple cards work for every deck, and the orange and blue cards can be equipped on another race's ship. SReds on a Sobek, VSlashes on an Orion, or BGreens on a Sathanas.
Here is a vote: Do you want to have a huge deck with 110 cards, or should I release different decks that leave out some cards, but get reduced to less than 80 total cards in the deck? I think that the best way to do it is release the whole thing, and let the user to remove and add cards as neccesary. However, you never know what someone can want.
The next release will be the Vasudans. Since it is very hard to balance the battles with one race's ships attacking that same race's ships, let alone another race's ships, I will have just one download with the Vasudan deck. When that happens, you can combine the Terrans and Vasudans, but good luck in balancing it!
At this point, I take back what I said about the different deck sizes.
I still need a lot of images. If anyone else wants to help, I am just a PM away. This won't be released until I can remove all the "no image"s in the whole pdf.
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Hmmm... hang on. For putting in images where there are none... for the beam cannon type stuff, do you just want a small screencapture of a beam in use?
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Originally posted by Ashrak
didnt an0n come up with this a while back?
His was really about the HLP members and more or less died when he got banned.
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for all weapons, I would like a screen capture of it in action, cropped to the size of the slots in my cards.
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Okay... My email address is [email protected]. Send me a list of the ones you need pictures for, and I'll get all I can.
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I hope you like spam... :rolleyes:
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Eh, oh well. Gmail has a pretty good spam filter, so I can handle it.
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Yes! The Terran deck is going to be released very soon. If you want to playtest it, give me your email so I can send it to you. I will start sending them out for playtest tomorrow.
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So this'll be without images? Send it to me, and I'll play. Will it include the rules?
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Will you make cards for subspace nodes?
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*Sathanas fires BFgreen at subspace node*
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Originally posted by Setekh
Will you make cards for subspace nodes?
That's probably a good idea. How bout it, DR?
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It doesn't fit with the gameplay. Sorry.
Also, you can make the images. I can't just wait for everything THEN playtest, I need to make use of my free time. The "rulebook" is almost done. I will take playtest requests tomorrow night.
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I need a permanent hosting area. I will look at Game Warden, but if I can't get a hosing there, I will have to ask someone else to do it. The stuffed file is 8.3mb, which is pretty big for an email. IF YOU WANT TO BETA TEST, ASK ME!
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Like I said, I'll playtest it.
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I'l send it to you soon.
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I would love to be a beta tester!
[email protected]
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Since Game Warden seems to... well... not care about the card game, I will need someone else to host it for me. If anyone has a place to host it, that would be great!
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We can provide you with space for the cards. Email or PM me ([email protected]) and we'll work something out.
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:eek: an fs card game! sw33t! *drools*
time to help DRX again. :p
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<—Would be glad to accept your help
THREE HUNDREDTH POST!!! WOOT!!!
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so, on the plasma blobs, do you want, like, just a simple picture of the blob or a ship firing the blob?
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Plasma Blobs... NAH! They aren't cards. I'l give you the game so that you can see which cards need images.
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Would this be useful? http://www.ccgworkshop.com/
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To me? No. To others? Yes. Since I am on a Mac, that has no value to me. If anyone wants to do the job for me, that would be fine, as long as you give me the original credit.
Besides, who wants to play a computer card game when you could play the actual game on the computer?
The purpose of the card game and tabletop game is to play it with your butt off of the computer chair.
Also, that system does not support dice yet. 20-sided dice are needed to play, so it does me no good.
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20-sided?! what the hell? :wtf: why don't you just use 2 10-sided? :wtf:
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No offence, but that was a pretty silly reply
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no, it wasn't.
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because how do you roll a 1 on 2 10 sided die?
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plus 2 ten sided die gives 50 combinations, not 20.
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20-sided is easier to find than 10.
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Originally posted by FireCrack
plus 2 ten sided die gives 50 combinations, not 20.
Originally posted by Hippo
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because how do you roll a 1 on 2 10 sided die?
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K, I stand my point, sorry, those points never occured to me
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Ahg... Setekh still hasn't gotten back to me about the hosting!
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I might be able to host it, you said it was 8 MB, right? I might be able to host it on my webspace on users.pandora.be, which has nice speeds for EU.
Email me at [email protected]
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It is actually 18mb. The newer versions that will be released will make it grow much larger. Besides, I need a stable webspace that that won't go down very often and can take a good amount of traffic.
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Damn, 18, I'm using 35 from the 50 MB, maybe I can take down my photos, they take the bulk. Just how big will th newer versions be?
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probably around 30-60MB. ;)
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Ok, I removed the pictures (After I backed them up), I have 5MB Used Space, so should be more then enough for the early versions
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what the hell? Are you using bitmaps? No set of images should EVER be more than 2mb, TOPS...
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They were 500 Kilobytes, and there was about 69 of 'em, plus some vids, just pictures of a fieldtrip with school
EDIT: Was het alking to me or Revenant?
EDIT: Ok, I'm going to sleep, so I'll be unavalible for some time
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yeah... 500k is FAR to big for a 1280x1024 pixel jpg at MAXIMUM quality. I think you've got to compress them a bit, or shrink them.
EDIT: i was origonally talking to Rev, but now i've gotten them both combined :D
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They are not images, it is a pdf. I need a good way to quickly combine text and images
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Very prommising. I'm looking forward to this. Just hope my HP has enough ink:)
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nevermind.
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Cobra, he's been here since December of 2003.
2003!!!
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Game Warden has confirmed hosting. Thanks for the offer, though. I'l post a link as soon as I can get my ftp client to behave.
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Originally posted by Raa
Cobra, he's been here since December of 2003.
2003!!!
Eh? He's been here since December 2004.
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Hes not talking about me.
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This sounds fun. I would be willing to help test it. PM'd my e-mail to you Dark RevenantX.
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I'm about to upload the new version to my IDisk. I will give you the link after the upload.
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Originally posted by Raa
Cobra, he's been here since December of 2003.
2003!!!
someone who hardly posts for 2 years? :wtf:
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Says the guy that has 2000+ posts in one year.
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pipe down, old man. :p
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pipe down cobra, and listen to Raa... *looks down*
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*sigh* Keep it civil, and use common sense, please. Or I'll split the tardness again, and lock it off in a small room by itself.
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Nah, that's ok. It at least keeps the thread near the top.
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ill help out.
ill get pics of all the ships and send em 2 ya:D :thepimp:
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Actually, what I need is the pics of everything BUT the ships. I think I said earlier that I have the ships already.
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sry i skipped a few pages still ill get a couple of thing for ya
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im gettin sum high detail pics of the ships in the download and a few extras and so far its just under half completed
just thought ud like 2 kno